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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 05:19 PM) | | Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder. |
i'm sure the cops prevent more crime when they have a pistol in hand. if the cops didnt have guns and neither did the criminal the cops might be in trouble unless they had numbers on their side, more officers on the scene. I mean come on....pepperspray probably wont do but so much to a deraged crackhead when he's got the idea attacking. plus most cops are weak and flabby.
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 05:19 PM) | | Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder. |
I'm sure the cops do a better job with a firearm. If they didnt have one, their lives would be in danger more often and they would have to have more cops on scene to take down the guys. you ever watch the show cops...it takes 3 or 4 of them to restrain someone as it is, when the guy goes nuts. in the scenario where the guy has a knife (since we're living in fantasy land without guns) and the cop is now without a firearm to protect himself what is he to do? he cant threaten to shoot the guy, he cant fire a leg shot...he's got to wait for backup and try to wrestle the knife away w/o getting slashed. or you could just pop him in the leg and be done with it...or at the least keep distance with it. if there were no guns then there would have to be more cops to defuse a threat...which equals more tax dollars...which makes you and me more poor.
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 | QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 7 2008, 05:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 05:21 PM) | Yeah, but no one would die from DUIs if there were no cars... Cars dont even save lives. They make things more convenient. People are dying so they dont have to take a bus or train. |
It's a poor analogy b/c cars have a purpose (getting people around) other than potentially killing/injuring people. Guns only purpose are to destroy whatever they're pointed at. |
I live in a shitty neighborhood JW. Its pretty heavily infested with meth. I literally witness stolen property drop offs and drug deals almost daily. If I have some tweaked out dude who's been up for a week straight break in my house I NEED my gun to destroy what it is pointed at. Ive lived in an honest to god meth house before (thanks mom) and some of these people are down right scary. We've all seen episodes of cops where it takes 4-5 cops to subdue some of these people AFTER being pepper sprayed. What the fuck am I supposed to do if I'm unfortunate enough to find one of these people in my living room at 1am?
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 | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 10:20 PM) | | QUOTE (JW32Hoops @ Apr 7 2008, 05:50 PM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 05:21 PM) | Yeah, but no one would die from DUIs if there were no cars... Cars dont even save lives. They make things more convenient. People are dying so they dont have to take a bus or train. |
It's a poor analogy b/c cars have a purpose (getting people around) other than potentially killing/injuring people. Guns only purpose are to destroy whatever they're pointed at. |
I live in a shitty neighborhood JW. Its pretty heavily infested with meth. I literally witness stolen property drop offs and drug deals almost daily. If I have some tweaked out dude who's been up for a week straight break in my house I NEED my gun to destroy what it is pointed at. Ive lived in an honest to god meth house before (thanks mom) and some of these people are down right scary. We've all seen episodes of cops where it takes 4-5 cops to subdue some of these people AFTER being pepper sprayed. What the fuck am I supposed to do if I'm unfortunate enough to find one of these people in my living room at 1am? |
At the end of the day, it's your right and it sounds like you live in Detroit or Beirut or somethin. It aint easy, for sure, but get your family outta there.
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 | QUOTE (Tswole @ Apr 7 2008, 06:23 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 05:19 PM) | | Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder. |
i'm sure the cops prevent more crime when they have a pistol in hand. if the cops didnt have guns and neither did the criminal the cops might be in trouble unless they had numbers on their side, more officers on the scene. I mean come on....pepperspray probably wont do but so much to a deraged crackhead when he's got the idea attacking. plus most cops are weak and flabby. |
I never said cops shouldn't have guns, but normal people shoudln't
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 10:00 PM) | | QUOTE (Tswole @ Apr 7 2008, 06:23 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 05:19 PM) | | Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder. |
i'm sure the cops prevent more crime when they have a pistol in hand. if the cops didnt have guns and neither did the criminal the cops might be in trouble unless they had numbers on their side, more officers on the scene. I mean come on....pepperspray probably wont do but so much to a deraged crackhead when he's got the idea attacking. plus most cops are weak and flabby. |
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Wow. Lets depend on a cop entirely to save us from anyone not hopped up on drugs and not wielding more than a pocket knife. Police have no constitutional duty/responsibility to protect individualsThey're at least 3-5 minutes away. They're much more worried about their safety and well being than they are about a complete strangers. Very few are good shots, especially in combat.
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 | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 8 2008, 11:57 AM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 10:00 PM) | | QUOTE (Tswole @ Apr 7 2008, 06:23 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 05:19 PM) | | Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder. |
i'm sure the cops prevent more crime when they have a pistol in hand. if the cops didnt have guns and neither did the criminal the cops might be in trouble unless they had numbers on their side, more officers on the scene. I mean come on....pepperspray probably wont do but so much to a deraged crackhead when he's got the idea attacking. plus most cops are weak and flabby. |
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Wow. Lets depend on a cop entirely to save us from anyone not hopped up on drugs and not wielding more than a pocket knife. Police have no constitutional duty/responsibility to protect individualsThey're at least 3-5 minutes away. They're much more worried about their safety and well being than they are about a complete strangers. Very few are good shots, especially in combat. |
Um yes, there job is to protect citzens. it even says on there cars "To Protect and Serve"
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 8 2008, 03:06 PM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 8 2008, 11:57 AM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 10:00 PM) | | QUOTE (Tswole @ Apr 7 2008, 06:23 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 05:19 PM) | | Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder. |
i'm sure the cops prevent more crime when they have a pistol in hand. if the cops didnt have guns and neither did the criminal the cops might be in trouble unless they had numbers on their side, more officers on the scene. I mean come on....pepperspray probably wont do but so much to a deraged crackhead when he's got the idea attacking. plus most cops are weak and flabby. |
I never said cops shouldn't have guns, but normal people shoudln't
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Wow. Lets depend on a cop entirely to save us from anyone not hopped up on drugs and not wielding more than a pocket knife. Police have no constitutional duty/responsibility to protect individualsThey're at least 3-5 minutes away. They're much more worried about their safety and well being than they are about a complete strangers. Very few are good shots, especially in combat. |
Um yes, there job is to protect citzens. it even says on there cars "To Protect and Serve"
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Wrong buddy.
The supreme court of the United States of America ruled that police have no duty to protect individuals, but only society as a whole. Look it up and educate yourself.
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 | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 8 2008, 01:00 AM) | | QUOTE (Tswole @ Apr 7 2008, 06:23 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 05:19 PM) | | Thats a bad analogy and you know it. Surgery saves hundreds of thousands more lives than it kills each year. Same with cars. Can you show me stats that show more crimes/deaths are prevented by firearms each year, than are caused? Driving drunk is illegal btw, and killing someone while drunk is murder. |
i'm sure the cops prevent more crime when they have a pistol in hand. if the cops didnt have guns and neither did the criminal the cops might be in trouble unless they had numbers on their side, more officers on the scene. I mean come on....pepperspray probably wont do but so much to a deraged crackhead when he's got the idea attacking. plus most cops are weak and flabby. |
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you said "GET RID OF ALL GUNS" and you also said "I NEVER SAID COPS SHOULDNT HAVE GUNS" you're contridicting yourself.....read this page and you will see.....caught in your own web. when you say GET RID OF ALL GUNS...all means all, right? so cops have guns too....so get rid of cops guns to get rid of all guns....think about it..but dont hurt yourself
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