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| QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:01 PM) | Way to twist the story fucknuts.
If five teens with bats and machetes cant even kill a single person, its pretty apparent that they're not trying to kill anyone.
You also think five 14-16 year olds can come up with $200+ each and find someone to sell them the guns? Not likely without some pretty serious drug and/or gang ties. |
Well 2 kids in Colorado, armed with guns killed 12 kids and one teacher. 5 kids with bats and a machete couldn't even kill one person, so much for your theory if they wanted to kill, they would find a way. The kids in Columbine didn't have a hard time finding guns, neither did the VA Tech kid, nor the guy at Northern Illinois, nor the kid who shot up the christian school. Shall I go on?
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| QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 09:44 AM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:30 PM) | You missed my point. The Aussies weren't out to kill anybody. "...cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries." No broken bones, no concussions.
Then you go and take the story from what it is; a group of teens breaking windows and assaulting people and try to make it sound like they're out for death and it would have been a school shooting if they lived in the US. |
How do you know they werent out to kill anyone? Have you interview them?
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How do you know they were? They mention cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries. If 5 teens with 5 bats and a machete dont even break a bone or give someone a concussion I'd say they were not out to kill. Also "likely to be charged with assault and malicious damage". Not attempted murder. Nothing in the article suggests death (or even great bodily harm) were their intentions. Its complete bullshit that you say they would have killed 19 in the US. Everything we know suggests otherwise but you basically flat out lie and make shit up so that it conforms to your way of thinking.
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| QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:54 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 09:44 AM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:30 PM) | You missed my point. The Aussies weren't out to kill anybody. "...cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries." No broken bones, no concussions.
Then you go and take the story from what it is; a group of teens breaking windows and assaulting people and try to make it sound like they're out for death and it would have been a school shooting if they lived in the US. |
How do you know they werent out to kill anyone? Have you interview them?
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How do you know they were? They mention cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries. If 5 teens with 5 bats and a machete dont even break a bone or give someone a concussion I'd say they were not out to kill. Also "likely to be charged with assault and malicious damage". Not attempted murder. Nothing in the article suggests death (or even great bodily harm) were their intentions. Its complete bullshit that you say they would have killed 19 in the US. Everything we know suggests otherwise but you basically flat out lie and make shit up so that it conforms to your way of thinking. |
A teacher was injured trying to stop the kids. I didn't lie or make up any shit. You don't know they werent attempting serious bodily harm, and you are making conclusions to support your own theories as well.
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| QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 09:55 AM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:54 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 09:44 AM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:30 PM) | You missed my point. The Aussies weren't out to kill anybody. "...cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries." No broken bones, no concussions.
Then you go and take the story from what it is; a group of teens breaking windows and assaulting people and try to make it sound like they're out for death and it would have been a school shooting if they lived in the US. |
How do you know they werent out to kill anyone? Have you interview them?
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How do you know they were? They mention cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries. If 5 teens with 5 bats and a machete dont even break a bone or give someone a concussion I'd say they were not out to kill. Also "likely to be charged with assault and malicious damage". Not attempted murder. Nothing in the article suggests death (or even great bodily harm) were their intentions. Its complete bullshit that you say they would have killed 19 in the US. Everything we know suggests otherwise but you basically flat out lie and make shit up so that it conforms to your way of thinking. |
A teacher was injured trying to stop the kids.
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| QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 09:55 AM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:54 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 09:44 AM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 12:30 PM) | You missed my point. The Aussies weren't out to kill anybody. "...cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries." No broken bones, no concussions.
Then you go and take the story from what it is; a group of teens breaking windows and assaulting people and try to make it sound like they're out for death and it would have been a school shooting if they lived in the US. |
How do you know they werent out to kill anyone? Have you interview them?
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How do you know they were? They mention cuts from broken glass and other minor injuries. If 5 teens with 5 bats and a machete dont even break a bone or give someone a concussion I'd say they were not out to kill. Also "likely to be charged with assault and malicious damage". Not attempted murder. Nothing in the article suggests death (or even great bodily harm) were their intentions. Its complete bullshit that you say they would have killed 19 in the US. Everything we know suggests otherwise but you basically flat out lie and make shit up so that it conforms to your way of thinking. |
A teacher was injured trying to stop the kids. I didn't lie or make up any shit. You don't know they werent attempting serious bodily harm, and you are making conclusions to support your own theories as well. |
The only difference being my conclusion jives with the information in the article and the outcome of the event.
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| QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 01:57 PM) | | QUOTE (Brad Cowin @ Apr 7 2008, 04:42 PM) | | QUOTE (azfittrainer @ Apr 7 2008, 01:08 PM) | | I love that you've stayed away from the 3 year old shooting herself story though. |
Why? I'm not going to justify or stand up for that bullshit. Shitty parenting and even shittier firearm responsibility. I dont think any three year olds are capable of disabling the safety and jacking a round in the chamber. Meaning they left a loaded handgun in reach of a young child. It's the parents fault 120%. |
But I'm sure eventually that same gunowner will be walking down the street, or at the mall, a gun wielding psycho will come in, and he/she will be able to stop them, thus making up for the fatality already caused by the firearm.
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Well youre missing something: Those kinds of deaths are 100% preventable. If the guns safety was engaged she wouldnt have been able to shoot herself. If there had not been a round in the chamber, she wouldnt have been able to shoot herself. If the gun had been in a closet on a high shelf she wouldnt have been able to shoot herself. If the gun had a trigger lock installed, she wouldnt have been able to shoot herself. If the gun had been in a locked safe she wouldnt have been able to kill herself. If the parents had taken an extra 30 seconds to do anything mentioned above the little girl wouldnt have shot herself.
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