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Go Hard Or Go Home!
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| QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 3 2007, 09:35 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:53 AM) | | QUOTE (rich_55 @ Nov 2 2007, 11:11 PM) |
About the dark side...I have no desire. There are far too many reason why I don't want to go that route. I don't want that look. I prefer aesthetic muscularity and shape over sheer mass. I don't want a look that most people do not find appealing. That just is not desirable to me.
Also, as a trainer what better way to really learn how to build muscle then doing it the hard way yourself. Staying natural sets a good example for aspiring bodybuilders, landed my sponsors, will preserve my health, libido, perspective and positive mental spirit.
I don't have any delusions of grandeur, I just love to lift and strive to better myself and help others. |
I agree with all of that, I think there are way to many people that start lifting and want to just blow up instantly. They don't want to do it naturally because it takes a lot longer and is way harder then just shooting yourself up with something or taking some kind of pills.
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Depends on your goals.
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What are your goals if you don't mind me asking?
If It Isn't Going To Make You Bigger Or Richer You Don't Need To Do It!
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Tired of your bullshit
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| QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 4 2007, 06:52 PM) | | QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 3 2007, 09:35 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:53 AM) | | QUOTE (rich_55 @ Nov 2 2007, 11:11 PM) |
About the dark side...I have no desire. There are far too many reason why I don't want to go that route. I don't want that look. I prefer aesthetic muscularity and shape over sheer mass. I don't want a look that most people do not find appealing. That just is not desirable to me.
Also, as a trainer what better way to really learn how to build muscle then doing it the hard way yourself. Staying natural sets a good example for aspiring bodybuilders, landed my sponsors, will preserve my health, libido, perspective and positive mental spirit.
I don't have any delusions of grandeur, I just love to lift and strive to better myself and help others. |
I agree with all of that, I think there are way to many people that start lifting and want to just blow up instantly. They don't want to do it naturally because it takes a lot longer and is way harder then just shooting yourself up with something or taking some kind of pills.
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Depends on your goals.
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What are your goals if you don't mind me asking?
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I like that ugly look Rich doesn't like  But ultimately I want to step on Mr. Olympia stage... But for now I want to compete in non natural division.
sdf weighs 0.25lbs/inch more than Vaporize
5'8
~9% BF
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AIM: Vaporize04
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Go Hard Or Go Home!
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| QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 4 2007, 07:18 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 4 2007, 06:52 PM) | | QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 3 2007, 09:35 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:53 AM) | | QUOTE (rich_55 @ Nov 2 2007, 11:11 PM) |
About the dark side...I have no desire. There are far too many reason why I don't want to go that route. I don't want that look. I prefer aesthetic muscularity and shape over sheer mass. I don't want a look that most people do not find appealing. That just is not desirable to me.
Also, as a trainer what better way to really learn how to build muscle then doing it the hard way yourself. Staying natural sets a good example for aspiring bodybuilders, landed my sponsors, will preserve my health, libido, perspective and positive mental spirit.
I don't have any delusions of grandeur, I just love to lift and strive to better myself and help others. |
I agree with all of that, I think there are way to many people that start lifting and want to just blow up instantly. They don't want to do it naturally because it takes a lot longer and is way harder then just shooting yourself up with something or taking some kind of pills.
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Depends on your goals.
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What are your goals if you don't mind me asking?
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I like that ugly look Rich doesn't like But ultimately I want to step on Mr. Olympia stage... But for now I want to compete in non natural division. |
LoL yeah I understand what your saying, I want to compete naturally, we all just have different goals. My opinion is that if you are going to take a step over to the "dark side" I think it is the most benificial to get to your genetic limit naturally then if you want to get bigger and want to make that decision then do it. I just feel that there is to many people out there that are going over to the "dark side" at a very early age without having learned the lifting baisics like proper nutrition and training splits.
If It Isn't Going To Make You Bigger Or Richer You Don't Need To Do It!
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slin fast
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| QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 4 2007, 07:41 PM) | | QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 4 2007, 07:18 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 4 2007, 06:52 PM) | | QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 3 2007, 09:35 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:53 AM) | | QUOTE (rich_55 @ Nov 2 2007, 11:11 PM) |
About the dark side...I have no desire. There are far too many reason why I don't want to go that route. I don't want that look. I prefer aesthetic muscularity and shape over sheer mass. I don't want a look that most people do not find appealing. That just is not desirable to me.
Also, as a trainer what better way to really learn how to build muscle then doing it the hard way yourself. Staying natural sets a good example for aspiring bodybuilders, landed my sponsors, will preserve my health, libido, perspective and positive mental spirit.
I don't have any delusions of grandeur, I just love to lift and strive to better myself and help others. |
I agree with all of that, I think there are way to many people that start lifting and want to just blow up instantly. They don't want to do it naturally because it takes a lot longer and is way harder then just shooting yourself up with something or taking some kind of pills.
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Depends on your goals.
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What are your goals if you don't mind me asking?
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I like that ugly look Rich doesn't like But ultimately I want to step on Mr. Olympia stage... But for now I want to compete in non natural division. |
LoL yeah I understand what your saying, I want to compete naturally, we all just have different goals. My opinion is that if you are going to take a step over to the "dark side" I think it is the most benificial to get to your genetic limit naturally then if you want to get bigger and want to make that decision then do it. I just feel that there is to many people out there that are going over to the "dark side" at a very early age without having learned the lifting baisics like proper nutrition and training splits.
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like vaporize said, it depends on your goals. btw, most of the pros that make it started at a "very early" age. here is an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8aDR6OL5Yjay cutler, branch warren, arnold, lee priest to name a few all obviously started juice 18 years old or possibly younger. the people that start too early are the ones that dont know what theyre doing and have a lack of knowledge. just my 2ml "Get your ass in gear and your gear in your ass"
typerob is a fictional character and anything he says is role playing and not to be taken as truth or gospel. he doesn't know where to get gears plus he doesn't even workout.
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Go Hard Or Go Home!
Group: Advanced Members
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Member No.: 157839
Joined: 20-August 07
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| QUOTE (typeRob @ Nov 4 2007, 08:33 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 4 2007, 07:41 PM) | | QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 4 2007, 07:18 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 4 2007, 06:52 PM) | | QUOTE (Vaporize @ Nov 3 2007, 09:35 PM) | | QUOTE (J-Freak25 @ Nov 3 2007, 12:53 AM) | | QUOTE (rich_55 @ Nov 2 2007, 11:11 PM) |
About the dark side...I have no desire. There are far too many reason why I don't want to go that route. I don't want that look. I prefer aesthetic muscularity and shape over sheer mass. I don't want a look that most people do not find appealing. That just is not desirable to me.
Also, as a trainer what better way to really learn how to build muscle then doing it the hard way yourself. Staying natural sets a good example for aspiring bodybuilders, landed my sponsors, will preserve my health, libido, perspective and positive mental spirit.
I don't have any delusions of grandeur, I just love to lift and strive to better myself and help others. |
I agree with all of that, I think there are way to many people that start lifting and want to just blow up instantly. They don't want to do it naturally because it takes a lot longer and is way harder then just shooting yourself up with something or taking some kind of pills.
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Depends on your goals.
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What are your goals if you don't mind me asking?
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I like that ugly look Rich doesn't like But ultimately I want to step on Mr. Olympia stage... But for now I want to compete in non natural division. |
LoL yeah I understand what your saying, I want to compete naturally, we all just have different goals. My opinion is that if you are going to take a step over to the "dark side" I think it is the most benificial to get to your genetic limit naturally then if you want to get bigger and want to make that decision then do it. I just feel that there is to many people out there that are going over to the "dark side" at a very early age without having learned the lifting baisics like proper nutrition and training splits.
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like vaporize said, it depends on your goals. btw, most of the pros that make it started at a "very early" age. here is an example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec8aDR6OL5Yjay cutler, branch warren, arnold, lee priest to name a few all obviously started juice 18 years old or possibly younger. the people that start too early are the ones that dont know what theyre doing and have a lack of knowledge. just my 2ml |
And like I said earlier we all have our own goals, vap has his which is cool, I wish him the best of luck at what he does. I'm not knocking anyone that takes roids or anything I was just saying how I feel about the situation. It isn't for me and I just think people should reach there natural limit first and make sure they know what they are doing before they go off like a dumb ass and start shooting there self up with a bunch of shit!
If It Isn't Going To Make You Bigger Or Richer You Don't Need To Do It!
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Sep. 20 INBF Nationals
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To each their own. There are many caveats for those that go the other route should consider. More to mention here in this thread. Good luck prepping for your first show Vaporize! Saturday Morning TrainingI rested up on Friday night to hit the gym early on Saturday before the Bucks game. I am not used to working out in the morning, but it awesome for day 1 on my new chest and biceps training. The joys of nutrient timing: 8:45 - P-Slin (weak point days only) and Cissus upon waking 9:00 - Pounded shake of 1 c oats, 1 small banana, 1 scoop Chocolate MaxPro, 1.5 scoops Strawberry Shortcake Gourmet Protein9:45 - White Flood, Green Magnitude and ALCAR 10:15 - Purple Wraath, MaxGlutamine and Waxy Maize Starch Chest and biceps superset bashing followed!!! This was a good workout and the high reps are hurting in all the right ways. After having my postworkout shake, we headed down to campus to watch the Bucks smash Wisconsin. My meal of choice was an 8 oz BW3's burger and 6 carribean jerk wings. YUMM!!! A few brews were necessary as well.  **CONTROLLED LABS SPONSORED ATHLETE****MAX MUSCLE SPONSORED ATHLETE**NATURAL COMPETITIVE BODYBUILDER & TRAINERCheck out RichBodyFit.com
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Sep. 20 INBF Nationals
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High Reps Round 2: Off to VERY good startLast week was the first week in a very long time since I lifted in the 10-15 rep range on everything, so I figured the second week at it would include some nice strength increases. YEAH BUDDY was I right and coupled with a massive pump!!  My motivation yesterday was this picture of me taking 4th at the INBF Naturalmania...  My goal is to win my class at this show next year, so when I saw this photo I became so psyched for my workout that evening. SIZE MATTERS and CONDITIONING WINS! I put a few motivational pix and quotes including this picture inside my locker at the gym to remind me what I need to do. GET BIG OR GO HOME! Legs was yesterday and I will just say that I actually took the elevator down a floor out of fear of biting the dust down the stairs. Then a client was nice enough to cancel b/c I was so nauseous from the extreme energy exertion that I felt sick for 1.5 hours until I ate again. I would have just ate again immediately but my stomach was still full from my postworkout shake. Chest and biceps was today and the pump was insane!! My strength increased on EVERY exercise! I could not help, but look in the mirror and hit a couple most muscular poses. Oh and I'm up to 174 lbs another 1 lb increase in a week. :cool: I will take some progress pictures in the next few weeks after I get into this routine a little more.
**CONTROLLED LABS SPONSORED ATHLETE****MAX MUSCLE SPONSORED ATHLETE**NATURAL COMPETITIVE BODYBUILDER & TRAINERCheck out RichBodyFit.com
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Higher reps by no means equals light.
