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> Policosanol really works for high cholesterol!
Posted: Jul 21 2004, 06:33 PM
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guys, policosanol really worked better than i could ever have imagined for my high cholesterol. i got a 185 mg/dl from the mid to high 200's normally. my whole lipid panel came out normal if anyone wants me to type out the values. anyhow, i've always had high cholesterol due to genetics. nothing has changed in terms of diet or exercise. i've been on policosanol for about 6 months @10mg and this is my first blood draw. i've never gotten under 200 in my life! Further, my dad got his blood draw last month and his came out in the 190's. he's normally high 200's and back to mid 200's with lipitor. now with policosanol he's down below 200's as well, and he's now on lipitor every other day and hopes to be off it forever oneday. lipitor raises liver enzymes(liver damage), high bp and who knows what other damage(s).

if you have high cholesterol, i highly recommend policosanol supplementation as it's cheap, effective, and safe. or even on a cyle with androgens that totally destroys your lipid profile, this would be a good prevention or recovery.
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Posted: Dec 20 2004, 05:42 PM
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This article put in the category of: effective but with risk.

http://heartdisease.about.com/cs/cholesterol/a/Nrxcol.htm

I'm not sure I understand the risks. Is the risk only for those taking blood thinning medications?
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Posted: Dec 21 2004, 01:38 AM
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funny how he doesn't mention any health risks with statin meds. which do you think is safer and more efffective? statins vs policosanol, fish oils, red rice yeast and oats. Don't forget cardio!
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Posted: Dec 21 2004, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (lancelot @ Dec 21 2004, 01:38 AM)
funny how he doesn't mention any health risks with statin meds. which do you think is safer and more efffective? statins vs policosanol, fish oils, red rice yeast and oats. Don't forget cardio!

exactly, the risk associated with statin use is FAR greater than that associated with policosanol and for anyone with history of heart problems, the anti platlette aggregation effect of policosanol would be more of a benefit than a risk for preventing blood clots.

you gotta do your own research on a LOT of this stuff. yeah, the docs (for the most part) have your best interest in mind, but if it comes down to deciding if they should prescribe you and OTC med or a pharmacutical that they get kickbacks on, which do you think they'll prescribe? in my experiences the past year, i've come to the conclusion that the pharmacutical industry has doc's in their pocket. doctors are becomming pushers for big drug companies.

my cholesterol is a little high (family history) and my doc has prescribed statins to me at least 4 different times. each time i tell him, "im not taking statins" and he trys to give the the big sell on how good they are, but all the research i've done shows that they are great for lowering cholesterol #s, but for the cost and sides they only reduce your chance of cholesterol realated problems by less than 5% or something rediculously low like that.

its treating symptoms instead of the underlying problem. there are several MUCH more effective indicators of heart problems than cholesterol... its like having a runny nose and him prescribing a certain tissue to use. yeah it'll keep snot off my face, but its not fixing the problem thats causing my nose to run.

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Posted: Dec 21 2004, 01:26 PM
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Yes , I agree statins pose more danger, but I was excluding them anyway. I'm more interested in these products as a counter to the possible effects on cholestrol from superdrol and other PH/PS.
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Posted: Dec 21 2004, 05:02 PM
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in my experiences the past year, i've come to the conclusion that the pharmacutical industry has doc's in their pocket. doctors are becomming pushers for big drug companies.


It's hard to blame MD's because of their ignorance. Their formal education does not include nutrition, exercise, or alternative medicines. Their only weapon is the pad they scribble on. My MD friends are clueless in the use of vitamins, anti-oxidants, herbs, and nootropics for health benefits. It's all about "pills" for all their patients.

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Posted: Dec 21 2004, 05:14 PM
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Even if an MD knew about this stuff, it's not like I'm going to ask him about taking this stuff to counter the effects of superdrol.
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QUOTE (lancelot @ Dec 21 2004, 05:02 PM)
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  in my experiences the past year, i've come to the conclusion that the pharmacutical industry has doc's in their pocket. doctors are becomming pushers for big drug companies.


It's hard to blame MD's because of their ignorance. Their formal education does not include nutrition, exercise, or alternative medicines. Their only weapon is the pad they scribble on. My MD friends are clueless in the use of vitamins, anti-oxidants, herbs, and nootropics for health benefits. It's all about "pills" for all their patients.

i can't argue with your statement, but it is very disheartening to know that so many ppl go to these docs for help thinking that the docs KNOW thier shit and that if they suggest somthing, that that MUST be the best optoin for them simply b/c the DOCTOR told them. the more i've learned, the less i trust doctors. i have a couple docs i goto these days and one is very openminded and if i ask him a specidifc question he has no qualms about saying "i really don't know what you're talking about... i'll have to check it out and get back to you" whereas one of the other docs i see is more along the lines of "well, i dont' know what that is, so the best bet is to just take this drug that i want to prescribe to you..."

most people don't even consider that the doctor might know less about their situation than they do

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