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Posted: Jun 25 2007, 07:16 PM
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I am new to pro-hormones and really any advanced compounds like this. Can I stack Epistane and 11-OXO? How about throwing 6-OXO into the mix? And what is the deal with post cycle therapy- I don't understand what you need to do it for and how you do it. Any feedback is much appreciated. THanks!
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Posted: Jun 25 2007, 08:43 PM
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Posted: Jun 26 2007, 03:35 PM
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I'm on 11-OXO right now and liking it a lot. I'm considering stacking it w/ an Epistane clone during my second month on it. I'd be using Oxodrol-Pro by IDS at prob 20 and then 30 mg. per day for the last 4 weeks of my 8 week run of 11-OXO.
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Posted: Jun 27 2007, 09:00 PM
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I think what I don't get is if they are both in the same class and if they both do the same thing. Is it a bad idea to take both at the same time? Would there be an increased likelihood for side effects?
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Posted: Jun 29 2007, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (jackrabbit @ Jun 27 2007, 09:00 PM)
I think what I don't get is if they are both in the same class and if they both do the same thing. Is it a bad idea to take both at the same time? Would there be an increased likelihood for side effects?

They're not in the same class. Epsitane is a methylated designer anabolic with some addition anti-estrogenic benefits. 11-OXO is considered a selective cortisol modulator, that can have some converts to some milder hormones at higher doses.

It's primary purpose, however, is selective cortisol modulation. Basically what it does is prevent the conversion of cortisone into cortisol. The benefits of less cortisol circulating in the body should be obvious.

If someone was using 11-OXO to limit conversion to cortisol, plus was using Epistane to boost anabolic activity while limiting estrogen, it would be quite a stack. This is why I'm planning to do just that after my 1st month on 11-OXO without the use of any anabolics.

After I'm able to see what 11-OXO does by itself (so far 've lost an inch from my waist without severely limiting calories or doing much cardio, and I'm only about 2 weeks in), then I'll add in the Epistane clone and really turn things up a notch for that second month.
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Posted: Jun 29 2007, 02:16 PM
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Here's some more detailed info from a log of a guy who's running this stack w/ a few additions. It includes a lot of explanation from Patrick Arnold, who puts out 11-OXO. Check it out.

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-...3-ad-super.html
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Posted: Jul 4 2007, 02:41 AM
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I'm currently on my second bottle of 6-oxo and tapering down now...

I keep hearing about Jungle Warfare and AP (not quite sure if AP stands for Anabolic Pump at this point) but would JW work well with 6-oxo?
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Posted: Oct 5 2007, 02:31 PM
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I have read that this product is fairly androgenic. I would love to try and take epistane but I was wondering if there is a way that I could take it and avoid hair loss. I should say that I am succeptible to hair loss, and I am taking proecia right now.
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Posted: Oct 5 2007, 02:36 PM
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It works good with epistane.

The problem I had is bad acne on shoulders and back after about two weeks of the 11oxo. Has anyone else experienced this?
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Posted: Oct 6 2007, 04:34 PM
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QUOTE (WannaBeBeast @ Jul 4 2007, 02:41 AM)
I'm currently on my second bottle of 6-oxo and tapering down now...

I keep hearing about Jungle Warfare and AP (not quite sure if AP stands for Anabolic Pump at this point) but would JW work well with 6-oxo?

6-OXO and 11-OXO are very different compounds, just to be clear. Didn't want ppl. to be confusing the two.
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Posted: Oct 7 2007, 05:32 AM
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