Coincidence or is there something here?
R-ALA vs ALA |
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| Posted by: Ben james Feb 27 2004, 12:44 AM |
| I've been reading alot about the benefits of ALA and I was wondering if anyone had tried both ALA and R-ALA (separately). I know R-ALA is more effective at lower doses and I was thinking about 600mgs a day (200/3x), but for 10 bucks less I can get the ALA and take 1800mgs a day (600/3x), which equates to roughly 900mgs R-ALA and 900 mgs S-ALA, and the ALA will last twice as long. Does anyone know which would be better? I'm really just wanting the vascularity increase (and maybe a little more tone). I tired NO2 for 3 months and it gave me great pumps and vascularity in the gym, but on non-workout days... nothing. On OX right now (day 10, so we'll see how that works). Basically, if "hemodilators" don't give me the vascularity, do you think this might. |
| Posted by: prolangtum Feb 27 2004, 01:48 PM |
| i noticed no difference between r-ala and higher dosages of ala, and now im dropping both totally and just sticking to lemon juice and vinegar, to see if they really did much at all. |
| Posted by: Mike Ng Feb 27 2004, 03:39 PM |
| lemon juice and vinegar? does vinegar actually do anything? An old trainer of mine told me to take a shot of apple cider vinegar every night before bed, pre-contest. but he never told me why. |
| Posted by: prolangtum Feb 27 2004, 05:12 PM |
| http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=12&t=2120&hl= heres a start, grab a chair |
| Posted by: Kow Feb 27 2004, 07:18 PM |
| I just wanted to echo that I've never seen any benefit from one type over the other. Both worked the same. Layne/str8flexed has a great article on this, and in it he quotes a study that showed no difference at all as far as overall "what lipoic acid does" between the two types. As far as vascularity goes, probably the best thing to do would be to cut back some bodyfat. Assuming you're of somewhat normal genetics and aren't on things that can hinder vascularity (I think some ADD/ADHD drugs like ritalin or adderall do, for example), that'd be the easiest. Other than that, you may give niacin/niacinamide a try. Some say cayenne pepper makes them a little more vascular as well. |
| Posted by: Ben james Feb 27 2004, 08:32 PM |
| Thanks for the info. I went ahead and ordered the standard ALA (save some cash). About the vascularity, bodyfat isn't a big issue. If i did lower it more I know it'd be better, but throughout the day my arms go psycho. One minute all my veins are bulging, the next you can't see them. Who knows. Does anyone know if temperature can affect blood flow. On cold days, my pumps usually suck and energy is low. Is it just me or does anyone else notice this trend? |
| Posted by: lovetoeat Feb 27 2004, 08:53 PM |
| Sure, heat will increase blood flow. |
| Posted by: Caleb Stone Feb 28 2004, 12:42 PM | ||
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| Posted by: massmonster Mar 4 2004, 10:52 AM |
| Ok, I read this thread yesterday and figure "what the hell, I'll add vinegar to post routine". I added 2oz cider vinegar to 32 oz crystal light about 2 hours before bed. This was about 30min after workout. About 2Am I work up with the worst damn night sweats ever. There was a full body inprint on my sheets and I actually showered 'cause I felt so disgusting. Coincidence or is there something here? |
| Posted by: massmonster Mar 5 2004, 09:03 AM |
| nightsweats... bump |
| Posted by: Loki Mar 5 2004, 11:38 AM | ||||
 (whythankyousir...)-- Loki has always personally used ALA only for anti-oxidant purposes... -- Loki has never used citric acid or vinegar for glucose-disposal purposes, and prefers other compounds for said task, although he does like putting mustard on a lot of things, so perhaps he does get some benefit from it after all...
How many g/CHO do you consume post-workout?? |
| Posted by: James Martin Mar 5 2004, 12:12 PM |
please reply to my pm  thx loki |
| Posted by: massmonster Mar 5 2004, 01:27 PM |
| g/CHO?? |
| Posted by: shpongled Mar 6 2004, 06:41 AM | ||
Grams of carbohydrates |