Protein Intake

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Posted by: RevLloydCarroll Jul 15 2004, 07:28 AM

I have a question and would greatly appreciate being confirmed or corrected, which ever the case may be.

I've been told to get anywhere from 1 to 1.5g protein per lb of body weight per day. I've also been told that your body can only "use" about 30g of protein per 2 hours.

I weigh 227 and I"m trying to get stronger and tone up and burn fat. If I get the proper amount of sleep (8 hours, but I usually only get about 6), that leaves 16 hours left. That means I can get about 240g protein a day, 30 every two hours. This seems like enough for me to take but this is a bit hard to do.

If these statements are accurate, how do I go about getting this much? If not, please correct me.

Thanks

Posted by: BIGPOPPA Jul 15 2004, 08:33 AM

QUOTE (RevLloydCarroll @ Jul 15 2004, 07:28 AM)

If these statements are accurate, how do I go about getting this much? If not, please correct me.

Fish, chicken, turkey, lean beef, cottage cheese, nuts are a couple good sources of protein. Substitute a few meals with protein shakes and meal replacements. Also I remember reading that only bein able to absorb 30g of protein in one sitting was false, but hopefully someone else can shed more light on that. Also I'd keep your protein intake over 1g per pound of bodyweight, closer to 1.5.

Posted by: Jor EL Jul 15 2004, 09:13 AM

If I might ask, who told you 30 gm per 2 hours? Not disputing it, but curious because that might depend on what type of Protein you are taking Whey vs Casein or Isolate

will wait to hear back

Posted by: Richard Hunt Jul 16 2004, 12:07 PM

This was debated some over at the diet and nutrition forum. http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=2457

Posted by: RevLloydCarroll Jul 16 2004, 01:31 PM

QUOTE (Jor EL @ Jul 15 2004, 09:13 AM)

If I might ask, who told you 30 gm per 2 hours? Not disputing it, but curious because that might depend on what type of Protein you are taking Whey vs Casein or Isolate

will wait to hear back

Joel,

I was told this by some "certified trainers". However, not sure how credible they are or how far their knowledge extends on this. Not everyone says the same thing, that's another reason I ask. I believe they were probably refer to whey protein. Not sure, and maybe they all referring to diff ones. I will check the other link just posted and see what the forums have to say.

Posted by: GetRipt Jul 16 2004, 10:01 PM

QUOTE (RevLloydCarroll @ Jul 15 2004, 07:28 AM)

I've also been told that your body can only "use" about 30g of protein per 2 hours.

That's horribly generalized advice. Your body will not "use" nearly the protein in your last waking hours of the day, as it will in the morning, and after your workout. Not to mention variables like body weight, body type and activity level that affect the body's utilization of ingested protein. I'd be very interested to know where these people got this information from.

Posted by: Jones4925 Jul 16 2004, 10:48 PM

Slightly off topic, but food for thought. Has anyone ever wondered how a bull or a horse gets to be 900+ pounds of rippling, vascular muscle while eating only minute fractions of protien?

Posted by: Rwyan Jul 17 2004, 12:33 AM

Genetics, survival, and evolution.

Posted by: opi37 Jul 18 2004, 12:29 AM

I have friends that get great gains with under 1oo grams of protein a day

Posted by: mh03 Jul 18 2004, 02:23 AM

That is a good point about the horse because they do have massive amounts of muscle compared to their protein intake. You would think it is all relative, but maybe their hormone levels are higher making their protein synthesis more efficient. Not a bad thing to ponder on if you are bored. Anyway, I have a very fast metabolism so if I take in more than about 30g in one sitting, it gets wasted. I like to take in about 25g at a time as often as possible. I have also found it better to mix smaller servings of real food protein with shakes rather than eating food and drinking shakes seperate.

Posted by: 4everyoung Jul 18 2004, 03:49 AM

yeah this was debated on another thread. results seemed a little inconlusive to me. it was a good read, but from the studies it seemed a little on the low end. but anyway.

animals such as horses and bulls, even with little proetien intake do get rediculously huge. but it has more to do with genetics then diet. animals are prone to more extreme instances of hyperplasia then us. and they can produce more proteins naturally. if there were a way for us to produce far more proteins like glutamine by natural means, inhibit myostatin, split our cells multiple times over and walked on all fours, then we might be genetic super freaks as well.

Posted by: shpongled Jul 18 2004, 05:15 AM

Here is a read related to the discussion at hand:

http://forum.avantlabs.com/?act=ST&f=12&t=2931

I also think that plenty of people can make good gains on 100 g of protein a day. I just don't think that it is optimal.

Posted by: Richard Hunt Jul 18 2004, 07:00 AM

mh03, I agree with you. I try to get ~25 grams in every 2 to 3 hours which keeps me in that 1.4 - 1.8 g/kg range. I think this is best for me because:

1. I don't feel as bloated and gassy with ~25g

2. Getting it in every 2-3 hours helps curb my sugar cravings.

3. I don't have the measurements to prove it, but I do believe that I personally build and maintain muscle better when I am taking in closer to 1.8 g/kg protein daily compared to around 1g/kg (I weigh ~100 kg). I'm not trying to imply that 100g/day doesn't work for everyone, just me.

My favorite is Nonfat Dry Milk Powder. A serving is 1/3 cup and has 8g protein. I mix 1 cup in my hand dandy Bulk Nutrition mixer bottle in between meals. That along with my meals (eggs, chicken, tuna etc) and I usually hit the 1.8g/kg. On workout days with my post-workout shake (ON whey from Bulk Nutrition, milk and egg) I'm probably closer to 2.0-2.2g/kg.

Posted by: lite12 Jul 20 2004, 12:28 PM

Regarding bulls and horses; they have a gene that humans do not possess that makes their protein synthesis close to 100%- compared to a human's 6-20% depending on their body. Bulls also just plain have more muscle cells then humans do.

Some products have claimed to produce this affect in humans but they are baloney.

Right after a work out your protein synthesis is close to 100%. That's the time to really load up.

-Lite

Posted by: budman70684 Nov 25 2006, 02:32 AM

I noticed a bit of confusion. It's generally 1g per pound. That's POUND. not kilogram. 2.2 pounds per kilogram , big difference. So if you're getting 2g protein per kg you are actually getting less than the reccomended 1g/lb.

Posted by: vanquish Nov 25 2006, 03:48 AM

Been a while since I've seen a post from you, lite. You need to post more often.