DHEA AND 7-OXO

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Posted by: Ramiro29833 Jul 12 2004, 09:54 PM
I want to now what are the difference's between 7-KETO and DHEA.And how they work.And if you can please give me a link to learn more about DHEA.

Posted by: Ramiro29833 Jul 12 2004, 09:57 PM
And also which one would be better to fight of cortisol.And what are the good's and the bad's of each.Are is there something better than this, to help bring down cortisol.

Posted by: shpongled Jul 14 2004, 04:33 PM
See the article below.

7-oxo-DHEA is better for the majority of purposes.

Posted by: BadOldBear Jul 16 2004, 03:16 PM
shpongled, Sir;

I read and accordingly undestand from Mr. Tolson's articles on 7-oxo that the product is a strong anti-cortisol. What would you suggest to add with and/or offcycle with the product to synegistically increase its anticortisol activity.. The purpose for question is I am a very obese individual who is on an extreme restricted low-carb diabetic diet with substantial supplementation of anti-sugar herbs, vitamins, and minerals with a problematic level of cortisol and estrogen.
Below in the ps I go into other details just in case they are needed to respond to my query.
Jim,


P.S. Additional supplementation specifically is dim, forskolin (trade marked), fo-ti, guggal, selenium (yeast), vanadyl sulfate, brewer's yeast, vit b complex, mag-cal, ascorbic acid, ascorbic calcium, dhea, pregnenelone, n-acetyl-tyrosine, and non specifically several other thyroid thermogenic, anti diabetic, amino, proteins, and gh promoters. ph34r.gif

Posted by: shpongled Jul 17 2004, 02:11 AM
QUOTE (BadOldBear @ Jul 16 2004, 12:16 PM)
shpongled, Sir;

I read and accordingly undestand from Mr. Tolson's articles on 7-oxo that the product is a strong anti-cortisol. What would you suggest to add with and/or offcycle with the product to synegistically increase its anticortisol activity.. The purpose for question is I am a very obese individual who is on an extreme restricted low-carb diabetic diet with substantial supplementation of anti-sugar herbs, vitamins, and minerals with a problematic level of cortisol and estrogen.
Below in the ps I go into other details just in case they are needed to respond to my query.
Jim,


P.S. Additional supplementation specifically is dim, forskolin (trade marked), fo-ti, guggal, selenium (yeast), vanadyl sulfate, brewer's yeast, vit b complex, mag-cal, ascorbic acid, ascorbic calcium, dhea, pregnenelone, n-acetyl-tyrosine, and non specifically several other thyroid thermogenic, anti diabetic, amino, proteins, and gh promoters. ph34r.gif

Phosphatidylserine is expensive but the research on cortisol reduction is promising.

Posted by: BadOldBear Jul 17 2004, 03:22 PM
Thank you David,

After doing 2 hours of net searching I note that on both cortisol reduction use of phosadyl serine "remedies" and on phosadyl serine intellect improving (with phosatidyl choline) remedies, BACOPA keeps coming up. And bacopa is never alone but always with PS on cortisol remedies. Since its price runs from a 1/3 to 1/2 of PS by itself is it also anti-cortisol by itself or anticortisol only in synergistic conjunction with ps?

Jim
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Posted by: shpongled Jul 18 2004, 04:59 AM
I don't believe I have come across anything indicating that bacopa reduces cortisol but I haven't done a lot of research on it. It is likely that it reduces stress-induced increases in cortisol but that is different. There is an animal study indicating that it could increase T3 (good for fat loss). Bacopa is also good as an inexpensive nootropic, it is one of the ones that has worked in healthy people in double-blind trials.

Posted by: BadOldBear Jul 18 2004, 03:00 PM
Dear David,
Thank you very much. Too bad you had to work the weekend.
Jim dry.gif