Epistane at Bulk Nutrition: Update :) |
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| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 7 2007, 03:01 PM |
| Just wanted to keep those of you who were interested and were asking me whether Epistane was going to be carried at Bulk Nutrition or not. I spoke with them over the last few days and right now we are just giving them the basic information needed for a company of this size to make its first order from us and we are setting prices, etc. I am 95% sure it will be carried and hopefully in the next week or so. I will be updating this thread as I get information In the meantime if you are interested check out this link for cycling info, PCT's, and general information about this very powerful pro-anabolic anti-estrogen: http://www.ibeforums.com/portal/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=137 |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Feb 7 2007, 04:17 PM |
| Good to hear! |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 7 2007, 05:38 PM | ||
Yeah man! I just realized how sad it was when I looked that I was member number 994 and you were up in to double digit thousands lol. Am I getting old? GEEZ |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 7 2007, 05:55 PM |
| Wow I just got done reading some of the logs about this stuff and am very excited. Hurry BN and get this stuff and sell it cheap so I can buy a few bottles. |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 7 2007, 06:00 PM | ||
$25.99 sounds good. |
| Posted by: Paul130742 Feb 7 2007, 07:09 PM |
| $25.99? |
| Posted by: GuardDog Feb 7 2007, 08:00 PM |
| nice |
| Posted by: dudepiston Feb 7 2007, 09:29 PM | ||||
I second that |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 7 2007, 09:37 PM | ||||||
Haha I wish it could be at that price! It will be at a sweet price point though for what it is I promise you that. When you look at how much it costs compared to others in the past and see the results compared to that, its great. |
| Posted by: john123131 Feb 7 2007, 09:59 PM |
| i got tired of waiting...got it somewhere else, but good to known for the future if I like it |
| Posted by: {Menendez High} Feb 7 2007, 10:37 PM |
| Yeah im fixing to get some too.... I was going to wait for BN but it depends how much longer it takes!!!! But it does look like some good stuff though.. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 8 2007, 01:01 AM | ||
If everything goes as planned I am hoping no later then next week. Seriously won't be all that long guys. BN is a huge company and it takes time for them to get all the information required as well as everything else they need. They are definitely gonna have a sweeeeet price point though |
| Posted by: {Menendez High} Feb 8 2007, 01:50 AM |
| Alright ill wait to get it from BN... You better come through with this sweet price though |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 8 2007, 04:15 PM |
| This is great stuff.Ive been on it for a month now and it not only TOTALY got rid of my GYNO (sore lump the size of a dime) Ive put on around 6-8 lbs with no bloat and leanong out slightly. Oh and Im 35 5'9" 238lb@15% been training for a decade so I know its good stuff.If this could be sold for $26 that would be fantastic as this is the nicest designer Ive ever used! |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 9 2007, 09:58 PM |
| I can't wait till this stuff comes out from BulkNutrition, I want to stack it with the Leviathan or use it for PCT? What do ya'll think? |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 9 2007, 10:25 PM |
| I would run the Lev with the Epistane and eat a metric ton of protein.You dont want either for pct as Epistane while only causing very mild supression it is still suppressive.Im also not a fan of running a fat burner while normalizing your HPTA.The less stressors the better. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 10 2007, 08:10 AM |
| On that Forum you mentioned, the IBE-Forum. Everybody talking about Epistane sounded like they wanted to gain mass. But I was concerned about using it to cut rather then bulking. Are they just talking about the few pounds of "Lean Mass" also known like "Dry Hard Gains". I am going into a cut after I did my Phera-max cycle ( 3 week of pct). And I wanted to start cutting. When should I get started like a month after when I first started cutting? And if I did Doseing wise: 20, 20, 30, would this work well? Or can I up it 10mg more or go longer on the cycle? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 10 2007, 10:18 AM | ||
There are many people using it to cut as well. The nice thing about it is its high anabolic value, which really works well to prevent muscle wasting during cardio. |
| Posted by: alexoc949 Feb 10 2007, 03:00 PM |
| i'm not even sure what this is yet, but with all the excitement... i'll wait and get it here |
| Posted by: ANIMAL333 Feb 11 2007, 12:27 AM |
| Considering the fact that Epistane reduces estrogen (even gyno with some people), would it be a bad idea to use Epistane and an herbal test booster for a PCT? |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Feb 11 2007, 02:29 AM |
| Epistane isn't a PCT product....it's a designer compound. Some ppl. seem to be assuming it's used for PCT...just wanted to clarify that. |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 11 2007, 09:19 AM |
| Like josh said.Epistane is to be run like an anabolic and NOT for pct.I will be running MassFX with my PCT protocol as many others are also running a test booster of 1 form or another also.Good luck. |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 12 2007, 11:54 PM |
| So what is the word on this are yall getting it yet? Update please? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 13 2007, 12:11 AM | ||
It is 100% they are getting it. I am waiting on numbers. He is sending me info in the next couple of days (got that e-mail Sunday). |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 13 2007, 12:39 AM | ||||
Rock on!!! |
| Posted by: nelsonfff Feb 13 2007, 12:58 AM |
| For everybody who looked on that site, what do u guys think about that pulse cycling he was talking about? |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 13 2007, 06:14 AM |
| Yeah, good question. Also whats the deal with cycle for 4 weeks and PCt for two? How much of it should you start and would be safe? Should you go up slowly like 20/30/30/40? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 13 2007, 11:04 AM |
| The pulse cycling should be great. One of the reasons I say this is because I ran 30/40/40/40 weeks 1-4 and in PCT (I am 1 week in) I am doing great, I am actually up a lb, so I figure pulsing should REALLY minimize shutdown. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Feb 13 2007, 01:08 PM |
| Does pulsing keep enough of the compound in your system consistently to make gains as effectively as a traditional cycle, though? |
| Posted by: john123131 Feb 13 2007, 04:57 PM |
| my epi is on the way..ill let ya know how it goes when i start |
| Posted by: RepMeister Feb 13 2007, 05:17 PM |
| Some of us are not as familiar with pulsing cycles. So could one of you elaborate on how Epi would be pulsed. I understand the basic theory is to take the Epi every other day or on work out days instead of everyday, right? So, are you proposing that Epi should be taken this way and in so doing shut down would be minimized? What is best way to pulse Epi. Any idea on what you would be giving up on gains by pulsing? |
| Posted by: DownTown Feb 13 2007, 05:33 PM |
| It cost more money to make the same gains while pulsing, with typical compounds. If epistane stays active in the body longer, well alot longer than most, then it would allow greater gains when pulsing. It would also be freakin awesome! |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 13 2007, 07:18 PM | ||
This compound causes only MINIMAL shutdown so on a 4wk cycle you can get away with a short pct. On ramping I ran 20mg for 2-3days and upped it to 30mg for 4 wks and Im now on wk5 @40mg which Ill do for 3 wks=7wk cycle.Ive made great gains and am still gaining weight and strength.So your plan seems good.You may noy need to go to 40 but youll have to be the judge. I have a log @ Anabolic Minds called Epistane the Anabolic Gyno Destroyer with pics of my 4wk progress on pg 4 or 5. |
| Posted by: bulker4life Feb 13 2007, 07:37 PM |
| whats your gains so far? don't brag without bringing in numbers thats just dumb. Its like tellin a joke and forgetting the punch line. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 13 2007, 08:29 PM | ||
http://www.ibeforums.com/portal/forums/showthread.php?t=3645 That is his log. |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 13 2007, 11:36 PM |
| Check out pg 3 for the 4wk totals and some pics a couple replies below.The numbers and pics will speak for themselves.Its good stuff. |
| Posted by: nelsonfff Feb 14 2007, 12:38 AM |
| What supporting supps were you on when on cycle if u dont mind me asking |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 14 2007, 12:54 AM |
| Im taking milk thistle 80% 1-1.5 gm/day and NAC 1-1.5gm/day and your standards- fish oil 9+gm/day,multi,whey. |
| Posted by: DownTown Feb 16 2007, 11:02 PM |
| When is this stuff going to be here? Im about tired of waiting. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 16 2007, 11:19 PM | ||
We settled on a price today. Hopefully they will want us to ship it on Monday. If you absolutely can't wait I understand and hit me up and I can help you out. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 17 2007, 07:55 AM |
| Dude!!!! I can't wait. |
| Posted by: krashme Feb 17 2007, 08:57 AM |
| Man me neither, c'mon bulk |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 17 2007, 02:08 PM | ||
I recommend you guys wait, I mean heck a week won't make a difference, but if you absolutely can't then PM me. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 17 2007, 02:31 PM |
| Oh, I can wait. I just started my Cut, but I would like to get it soon as bulk sells it, with Leviathan. |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 17 2007, 11:21 PM |
| GET THE LEAD OUT! |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 18 2007, 12:50 PM |
| Haha I'm tellin ya the more you guys badger them the faster they will get back to me |
| Posted by: GuardDog Feb 18 2007, 01:25 PM | ||
Everybody email this guy: ddarroch@aol.com He should be able to help. |
| Posted by: krashme Feb 18 2007, 03:00 PM |
| badger, badger, badger |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 19 2007, 10:32 AM |
| 2 more days, am I right, Hey by the way Dustin994 what is the price going to be if you can give that kind of information? |
| Posted by: ANIMAL333 Feb 19 2007, 07:08 PM |
| Hopefully its $39.99 like all the other sites have it for. Or even better, possibly $20-30! lol |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 19 2007, 08:06 PM |
| Looks like the price is going to be anywhere from 39.95-42.95. But of course even if it were the upper level of that, it would be worth it since BN has pretty much everything you need at one place and shipping is cheap, so you end up saving in the long run. BN told me today that they would be ordering tomorrow or so. Hopefully it will be on their site by Friday/Saturday. There will be a limited quantity, since he informed me that he didn't think there was that big of a demand yet If anyone who orders Epistane needs PCT supplies, PM me and I will help you out for supporting us |
| Posted by: b3llo38 Feb 20 2007, 12:49 AM |
| so how exactly should this be dosed? i was going to run masterdrol for 3weeks at 10/20/20 with pct for 4 weeks. i have never done a ph befor so the dosing was low for masterdrol, what should hte dosing for someone like me be for this type of product and how should PCT go, and what should it consist of? 40/40/20/20 nolva w/ 6oxo is what i was going to run for my masterdrol pct, is this type of pct still required for epistane? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 20 2007, 09:02 AM | ||
I think you will find PCT with Epistane being MUCH easier. If you read through this whole thread you will see what I ran and how my PCT went. You could run something like 20/30/40 or 20/30/30 if you only want to run a three weeker. 20mg didn't do a lot for me, despite 30 and 40 working wonders. Some people love 20mg though, everyone is different, you have to gauge it for yourself. I ran 30/40/40/40 and my pct was an easy 2 weeks with toremifene |
| Posted by: ANIMAL333 Feb 20 2007, 12:06 PM |
| Im planning on running it 20/30/30/40. I will keep the last week at 40 unless i get good gains at 30. Ive got a quick question for ya Dustin. How is the epistane in terms of gaining mass? Ive heard good things about it helping you cut and gain strength, but ive heard nothing about the mass gains |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 20 2007, 12:35 PM | ||
Like a lot of others its calorie dependent. I have noticed that when I started cutting back calories too much I leaned out significantly, despite the large strength gains for the week, so just keep the protein and cals high. |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 20 2007, 04:59 PM |
| You know they used to put a "Coming Soon" sign in the product section when they are to receive a new product. Come on bulk show some signs of when it will be here. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 20 2007, 10:02 PM |
| Bulk!!! Lets go...Where is this stuff...Waiting! |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 21 2007, 03:45 PM |
| I thought today was the day, whats up with that???????? |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 21 2007, 03:56 PM |
| If its not here within 2 more days i am going some where else. |
| Posted by: mh03 Feb 21 2007, 03:57 PM |
| I've been taking epistane for about a week in a half with 4ad. My sex drive is thru the roof which is good, but I've been tired all week and my sleep has sucked. From what I have read, I wouldn't think epistane would make you tired and 4ad is supposed to give you more energy. Any thoughts? |
| Posted by: mh03 Feb 21 2007, 04:11 PM |
| I've also been taking No-explode to try for more energy. |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 21 2007, 06:33 PM |
| From all the reviews Ive read Ive only seen 2 that reported any lethargy.I myself experienced the exact opposite.It gets me going. |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 21 2007, 06:36 PM |
| Lets get this stuff already C'mon. Bulk you are seriously slacking! Just my O. |
| Posted by: b3llo38 Feb 21 2007, 07:09 PM |
| yes definatly slacking, im ordering this the second they get it, IF THEY EVER GET IT. LETS GO BULK |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Feb 21 2007, 07:56 PM |
| If BN comes through w/ a better price than anyone else, it'll have been worth the wait. if they dragged their feet this long, only to offer the same price as everyone else, I doubt they'll be selling much of it. Let's hope for a really competitive price to reward loyal BN forum members that are waiting it out for BN's benefit. |
| Posted by: ANIMAL333 Feb 21 2007, 08:17 PM |
| Dustin himself said that the cost would be between $39-42. I know of 2 sites right now that have it for 39. So i would expect bulk to have it at a cheaper price than everyone else. Im just waiting to get it from BN because i know their customer service wont let me down! |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 21 2007, 09:06 PM |
| I would love to have it in my hands right now, but since the wait I went ahead and baught the P-max (for only 23) with Venom. My cut is so kick ass!!! |
| Posted by: dudepiston Feb 22 2007, 11:20 AM |
| What would be the best way to spread out the doses? I read that the half life is 6-8 hours. Right now I'm running 30mg/day: 10mg morning, 10mg afternoon (preworkout), and 10mg at night. Would it be better to keep a constant level in your system like I'm doing now or take a higher dose around the time of my workout? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 22 2007, 01:48 PM | ||
That is fine. If you get up to 40mg take 20mg about an hour or hour and a half pre workout and you will feel a difference. Still waiting on the final PO from BN. I will e-mail him again today. We will ship out the second we get it. We already have the stock he is looking to order set aside. I am still estimating the price to be 39-42. I can't be positive on this but this is a one stop shop and with the good deal on shipping and stuff, even if it were at 42, it would probably be better than buying from multiple places. |
| Posted by: dudepiston Feb 22 2007, 01:51 PM |
| Man, I'm on day 3 and I am in the best mood. I've heard this has an anti-depressant effect. Usually I'm pretty crabby at work and little shit will set me off but right now I don't have a care in the world. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 22 2007, 02:00 PM |
| I am about to Xplode with antisipation!!! |
| Posted by: thegreatestrhp2 Feb 22 2007, 02:05 PM |
| fuck it time to go somewhere else they dont sell AI Cycle support here either which is good stuff |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 22 2007, 03:20 PM | ||
DEF. good stuff. |
| Posted by: b3llo38 Feb 22 2007, 03:24 PM |
| im getting pretty pissed. dusting you think its ok to stack, glycergrow, size on, anabolic pump, and noxplode while taking epistane ? |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Feb 22 2007, 03:26 PM |
| What is it they say about the early bird again...? |
| Posted by: b3llo38 Feb 22 2007, 03:27 PM |
| im not going anywhere else to get it, but still. id like them to get it in already ya know wow that AI cycle support is great, its got everything i need in one thing, def getting that, wow |
| Posted by: dudepiston Feb 22 2007, 03:30 PM | ||
Just make sure you get the pb flavor and not chocolate The chocolate tastes like vomit......I'm not exaggerating it really does taste like the aftertaste you get after you just ralphed |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 22 2007, 07:42 PM | ||
Yeah I don't see a problem with any of that. In fact I believe there are a couple people over at IBE Forums running logs of Epistane + AP |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 23 2007, 10:25 AM |
| Ok, its Friday so where is it at? I am ready to order! |
| Posted by: Paul130742 Feb 23 2007, 11:54 AM |
| does this stuff dry u up more than Superdrol?? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 23 2007, 12:05 PM |
| Alright guys, Bulk sent in their official Purchase Order this morning so we will be shipping it out to them today!!! I am asking if they can put a coming soon page up so you can see it but if they don't then the product should be available for sale by Tuesday or Wednesday. Just wanted to let you guys know that it has indeed gone out! |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 23 2007, 12:06 PM |
| No joke I really beginning to think they just dont care. I am ordering somewhere else. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 23 2007, 12:46 PM | ||
huh? I just said that they put their purchase order through lol. They own 11 web sites so you can imagine how busy they are. |
| Posted by: SpooledSrt Feb 23 2007, 12:58 PM |
| You guys need to chill out. Give the man a break. Im sure you guys can chill for another few days without this stuff. Its not like gods gift to earth...just another PH. So, chill. |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 23 2007, 02:54 PM |
| Im half way through wk 6 @40mg and am just now starting to notice a little stiffness in my joints.so in 6wks this is the only side Ive encountered and it just started. |
| Posted by: RepMeister Feb 23 2007, 02:59 PM |
| What about Canadian orders. Any Canadians had any trouble with siezure? How will it be packaged and does BN ship to Canada? |
| Posted by: Unrvld24 Feb 23 2007, 03:00 PM |
| wait a sec wk 6???? how long is a cycle of epistane is it longer due to lower toxicity and sides? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 23 2007, 03:26 PM | ||
If you check out IBE Forums you will see blood work of Dr.D. He ran 40mg for 6 weeks straight and for running that much for that long it was amazing that his lipids and stuff weren't destroyed. There is someone on Anabolic Minds also who is running 10mg for 16 weeks. He will be getting pre, 6 week, 12 week, post cycle blood work done. That should be very very interesting. |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 23 2007, 03:43 PM | ||||
ok we must have posted at the same time cause I posted on page 4 and then when I looked I was on page 5 and yours was on top. Sorry about all the complaining just getting impatient. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 23 2007, 04:25 PM | ||||||
Haha its cool, I understand. I mean either way it doesn't matter to me where you get it |
| Posted by: john123131 Feb 23 2007, 07:42 PM | ||
Hey I ordered it from another company obviously, but had no issues with getting it to canada. Ordered it on Feb. 9th, it got to Canada customs on the 15th, my house on the 19th. Not bad considering it came from Texas....anyway shouldnt be issues with customs, they have no clue what all this new shit is |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 23 2007, 09:03 PM | ||
Well Ill be running for 7.5 total and yes the toxicicity is very low and there have been no neg sides except on wk6 a little stiffness in the morning for the first 1/2 hr of my day.It is more of a 30min inconvenience and it didnt start til this wk so I went 5wks with 0 neg sides! |
| Posted by: Unrvld24 Feb 24 2007, 03:35 AM |
| i just took phera max for 30 days and i'm on my 30 day pct....usually i would do a month on nothing then start up again but since epistane has such a low toxicity would it be okay to start a 6 wk epistane cycle after my pct? |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Feb 24 2007, 04:15 AM |
| Not a good idea. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 24 2007, 09:16 AM |
| yeah you need some time off, I don't know how long you need but I would say atleast a month. But keep taking Milk Thistle and liver support and all the other protection herbs if you are thinking of going into epistane. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 24 2007, 09:19 AM |
| Oh and just curious, where is the "coming soon" sign at??? |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 24 2007, 10:03 AM | ||
Id wait another 3-4 wks for the simple fact of letting your androgen receptor upregulate so that you can get the MOST out of Epistane.Good luck! |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 24 2007, 01:35 PM | ||
We need a " coming soon" sign to let us now you are all serious. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 24 2007, 01:38 PM | ||||
http://www.bulknutrition.com/?manufacturers_id=306 They have already put us up as a manufacturer. That a hint enough for ya? lol |
| Posted by: Eric137638 Feb 24 2007, 11:58 PM | ||
so usually you do a 30day cycle, 30 day PCT, and then take a 30 day break and get right back into another cycle? How did you like the phera? |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Feb 25 2007, 01:43 AM | ||||
30 days of off cycle period after PCT is a bare minimum. You really need to let your body recover and not continually abuse it w/ cycle after cycle. The idea is to work hard and build as much as you can naturally...then do the occasional cycle to get over the hump and push yourself beyond what you'd be able to do AFTER you worked your ass off and have all the other factors like diet, rest, good training down. A lot of guys don't get this concept at all. |
| Posted by: bigwasserman Feb 26 2007, 10:47 AM | ||||||
Great point here. Here is an example of what I do/am doing. I did a cycle in june to aid in cutting for the summer, then did PCT in july then did a cycle in Spetember, then PCT in Oct. Then did NOTHING at all until last month(Jan.) and am now finishing up PCT. When I finished my Sept. cycle I was at about 190lbs and about 8-10%bf. and when I started my cycle(Methly Masterdrol) in Jan I was at 195 and when I finished that I was at 205lbs(all dry gains) and am now at the end of PCT and am about 200lbs. When you take the time off you end up having less sides, better workouts and better results. I am now starting to slowly trim down for the summer time and am able to get my hands on the old Gaspari Pro-Turinabol and will use that either in March or April. I normally do cycles in the summer time a little closer together than usual but then in the winter I will only do one, MAYBE two in a 7 month period. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 26 2007, 10:50 AM |
| Epistane ... Just checking when it will become a link, Hinting then you can order it, lol! |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 26 2007, 12:20 PM | ||
It will definitely be this week I just don't know which day. Like I said they already posted us up as a company on the web page over the weekend. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 27 2007, 09:25 AM | ||||||||
Yeah I did something very similar, took some time off and it definitely helped. Hard getting back into things sometimes but man my body needed it! |
| Posted by: bigwasserman Feb 27 2007, 09:48 AM | ||||||||||
I just wanted to clarify here that when I was talking about taking time off, I did not mean taking time off from working out, just from doing cycles. I was not sure if Dustin meant in his last post that he took time off from the gym or from a cycle, so I just wanted to clarify what I was talking about. The only times I take off from the gym is my designated rest days to let my body grow and heal and if I ever am sick or injured. Other than that, it is balls to the wall!!!! |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 27 2007, 12:06 PM |
| Hmmm, Still no signs of Epistane? |
| Posted by: nelsonfff Feb 27 2007, 03:31 PM |
| ya seriously im guna go somewhere else very soon |
| Posted by: krashme Feb 27 2007, 09:41 PM |
| Yeah I think some incentive to wait is in order, I need some creatine and I like to order all at one time, c'mon Bulk? |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 28 2007, 04:41 AM |
| Yeah, I wanna order Epistane, EvoPro, more ZMA, and Leviathan all at once too! |
| Posted by: tree33 Feb 28 2007, 09:06 AM |
| It would be nice to just see "coming soon" that would prove progress. |
| Posted by: Synthetik Feb 28 2007, 09:25 AM |
| just double checking on the shipment for epistane......still no word bulknut? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Feb 28 2007, 02:27 PM | ||
I'm hoping they are putting it up today. Tracking shows they should have it today or tomorrow. I'll keep checking and post up when it goes up. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Feb 28 2007, 05:33 PM |
| Fuck, this is worse then trying to get a PS3 |
| Posted by: mmowry Feb 28 2007, 05:59 PM |
| Hats off to all you folks for your dedication and commitment to BN! BN def has all you need at ! stop.My very first online purchase was here and there have been many more since that.Im still using a 4yr old shaker cup from BN.Heck you can hardly make out the writing now.LOL |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 1 2007, 07:17 AM |
| Its march 1, Thursday. Where is it? I am still waiting and I also have a shopping cart full of shit already!!! Just waiting on Epi. |
| Posted by: bigfed Mar 1 2007, 07:22 AM |
| man ordered mine at island supps. bulk took to long for me to wait any longer. |
| Posted by: john123131 Mar 1 2007, 07:48 AM |
| me too..with a coupon I got it 39.99 a bottle!..it was that price but went back up to 44.99 for some reason |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 1 2007, 10:58 AM | ||
Everything except Epistane and waxy maize starch. I can't figure out why the hottest new products aren't the highest priority. |
| Posted by: nelsonfff Mar 1 2007, 02:41 PM |
| if its not on here by tomorrow im going somewhere else |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 1 2007, 03:14 PM |
| This is getting stupid. |
| Posted by: vrubs Mar 1 2007, 05:40 PM |
| alright, sorry to get off the topic of it not being here, but can someone fill me in a little more on this pulsing of epistane? if you only take it on workout days it will work better then taking it every day, due to the half life? also, im looking at doing a 6 wk cycle of it, i want to jump up to 40mg, but how far into the cycle before i start to make that decision? |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Mar 1 2007, 08:44 PM | ||
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| Posted by: mmowry Mar 1 2007, 08:56 PM | ||
Pulsing it (taking only on training days no more than 3 x/wk) will keep supression to a minimium which if you run 2wks on 2wks off you shouldnt need pct.Thats the best point of pulsing.You wont get the same gains in the same amount of time since youll only be ON 1/2 as much as a full blown cycle but youll keep natural test production up which is a plus.Also youre Epi will last over twice as long so in the long run for less cash you will end up making better gains. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 1 2007, 09:10 PM | ||||
What kind of gains would you expect to be able to get, using this method? Anywhere near a standard cycle or like half the usual gains or what? I'd like to get a ball park idea of what the diff. in results might be. |
| Posted by: mmowry Mar 1 2007, 10:14 PM |
| 60% of the gains but you will have enough to run 2X as long so more gains in the long run. |
| Posted by: Nathan89131 Mar 2 2007, 12:54 AM |
| What would be the most efficient way to take it if you only care about the gyno reduction properties and would prefer to keep PCT to minimum. Would "pulsing" work or do you need to get up to 30-40mg a day? I would like to just be able to use Trib. for post use to raise natural production. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 2 2007, 07:10 AM |
| Today has got to be the day, I need to order all this shit and I am waiting on Epi!!! But while I am waiting, I plan on using P-max this fall, but was thinking about adding Anabolic Pump to it. AP sounds to be real solid in making sure what you eat goes right to the muscle. |
| Posted by: jerry116916 Mar 2 2007, 07:21 AM |
| Wow 7 pages worth of people wanting epistane.....and no admin replies? |
| Posted by: krashme Mar 2 2007, 07:27 AM |
| yeah i'm goin somewhere else, it's been like 3 weeks, shit must be shippin from mars or something |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 2 2007, 03:11 PM |
| They must be doing one hell of a business on everything else to be not too concerned about bringing in the hottest compound around. Baffling. |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 2 2007, 08:00 PM | ||
You hit the nail on the head. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 2 2007, 08:12 PM |
| Its fucking the weekend, we were told the middle of this week?!?!?!?!?! WTF, do you want Business or not? I am gonna be pissed if its like $45, cause you can get it for 39.99. And I waited for nothing. |
| Posted by: DownTown Mar 2 2007, 08:48 PM |
| im was waiting till it came to order my shit, but i got a coupon from sum were else im just gonna order it from there. i aint got time to wait, im leavin for iraq like real soon. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 3 2007, 03:54 AM | ||
coupon....? |
| Posted by: giroppon Mar 3 2007, 04:51 AM |
| Will BN carry X-force and Matrix Energy Drink? |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 3 2007, 07:17 AM | ||
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| Posted by: GuardDog Mar 3 2007, 05:34 PM |
| Alright guys, you know the forum rules even if BN is slow as shit getting it in ....no spamming competitor sites. |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 3 2007, 07:23 PM | ||
maybe you could give us a small explanation as to what is taking so long? |
| Posted by: {Menendez High} Mar 3 2007, 08:21 PM | ||||
I agree that would be nice... I already got my first bottle from the "secret supplier" but I am going to need a second for this cycle and I have been waiting on BN but I agree, it is getting reduculous... I hope that there is accually a reason other than lasyness.... Im sure there is though.. It would just be nice if SOMEONE TOLD US WHATS GOING ON!!!!!! |
| Posted by: GuardDog Mar 3 2007, 08:42 PM | ||||||
I would love to give you an explanation, but I don't have a clue myself. Forum moderators don't have anything to do with the main store, let alone operations. I already gave you guys the email, ddarroch@aol.com , to who you need to ask. If everyone would email him, I'm sure you would have a better chance of knowing. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame you guys for wanting the product, or for even going somewhere else to get it until the BN store picks it up, just don't advertise it on the forums. I personally wish they would of had this stuff a month ago at least. |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 3 2007, 09:21 PM |
| Ok, I emailed him, lets see what happens. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 3 2007, 09:40 PM |
| Sweet! Great job Tree |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 3 2007, 11:40 PM |
| It's a little crazy that someone has to be emailed to get an answer. What ever happened to proactive customer service? I used to spend a lot of money here and there were always new items at super prices. Ah, the good old days. |
| Posted by: {Menendez High} Mar 4 2007, 12:22 AM |
| I emailed him a week and a half ago asking where it was and he said that it would be here in about 3-5 days....... haha. btw.. what did your email say tree? I have the feeling it wasnt the nicest one in the world... |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 4 2007, 01:24 PM | ||
I really did try to keep it as nice as I could but, I did throw in some sarcasm. |
| Posted by: {Menendez High} Mar 4 2007, 01:39 PM | ||||
Did you get a responce yet? |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 4 2007, 01:57 PM | ||||||
No not yet but, it has only been one day hopefully tomorrow he will respond. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 4 2007, 03:45 PM |
| hopefully tomorrow we will be able to buy it... |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 5 2007, 12:06 PM | ||
Now answer as of yet. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 5 2007, 12:23 PM |
| fuck it I am calling them right now! |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 5 2007, 12:39 PM | ||
Tell me what they say. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 5 2007, 12:44 PM |
| well I keep getting "Dennis's" voice mail, right now I am thinking of a message to leave. I don't want to be rude but overly anxious. |
| Posted by: DownTown Mar 5 2007, 02:28 PM |
| its monday yet again no epistane, 3 weeks ago they said a few days, and its been close to a month. Not to dependable. |
| Posted by: jerry116916 Mar 5 2007, 03:03 PM |
| Just get it somewhere else |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 6 2007, 08:35 AM |
| I QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Posted by: Eric137638 Mar 6 2007, 09:25 AM |
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| Posted by: GuardDog Mar 6 2007, 10:03 AM |
| I put up a thread in the mod forum so hopefully adaddon, dennis or someone from the store will see it and come post an answer in here. |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 6 2007, 11:31 AM | ||
I posted a suggestion in a thread about the new green BN bags. I mentioned if they threw one in w/ each Epistane order would probably satisfy everyone. What do you guys think? I think it'd be a good reward for loyalty to those of us that have waited three weeks just to spend our money w/ BN rather than shop elsewhere. |
| Posted by: goodskie Mar 6 2007, 11:39 AM |
| anyone wanna trade p-max for epistane? i have a 2 bottles of p-max and 1 bottle of phera-vol. i think this is a little too mucha and i dotn know why i have this much |
| Posted by: Synthetik Mar 6 2007, 12:36 PM | ||||
I would be satisfied |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Mar 6 2007, 01:54 PM |
| Hows the shelf life of this stuff if stored in the freezer? Definitely looking to pick some up to use a couple years down the road. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 6 2007, 03:33 PM | ||
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| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 6 2007, 03:37 PM |
| OOOOOHHHHHH SHIT!!! Bout time, just fucking ordered it, with Leviathan, ZMA, Vanilla EvoPro, and Some dymitize elite oats. I am fucking ball'n now! |
| Posted by: GuardDog Mar 6 2007, 07:50 PM | ||
wooohooooo!!!! http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=5643 |
| Posted by: goodskie Mar 6 2007, 10:59 PM |
| ya i know i was looking to trade 2 bottles of p-max for 1 bottle of epistane |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 6 2007, 11:01 PM | ||
Insulin like product huh, what is it called? |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 6 2007, 11:23 PM |
| Any feedback on a free gym bag for the patient buyer's of Epistane, who waited...? |
| Posted by: krashme Mar 6 2007, 11:29 PM |
| yeah 3 weeks, then not the cheapest place to order, WTF, we need some gratuity. I was sure the price would be like 34.99 just cut the prices of other sites, and since bulk has such a loyal following. |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 6 2007, 11:41 PM |
| 3 WEEKS AS WELL just to find they went ahead and charged more for the stuff, plfffff |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 7 2007, 04:33 AM |
| I am cutting, my calories are around 2500-2800, you think I should up the calories alittle to get better effects of Epistane. Say like around 3000 calories? |
| Posted by: GuardDog Mar 7 2007, 08:53 AM |
| I'm looking forward to reading your guys logs if you keep one. If you let me know that you have a log, I'll link it to the main store via forum reference links. That way people visiting the store will get to read your logs. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 7 2007, 12:04 PM |
| Yeah, I will probably do one, also some sweet pics, but I still have time before the big kick ass cycle. |
| Posted by: john123131 Mar 7 2007, 12:20 PM |
| guys was it worth waiting a month, and still paying more then other places for the epi? |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 7 2007, 12:38 PM |
| well with cost of shipping and handling YES! I needed some stuff from bulk and so I would have to pay to shipping bills and so it actually came cheaper to buy everything here. |
| Posted by: Unrvld24 Mar 7 2007, 12:39 PM |
| BAH~~~~I can't even take it for another two months i'm just finishing a pct this bites |
| Posted by: john123131 Mar 7 2007, 12:43 PM | ||
fair enough |
| Posted by: Josh47933 Mar 7 2007, 05:35 PM | ||
If they'd either waive shipping on an Epistane order or throw in a BN bag, then it'd be worth it...if not...probably not. |
| Posted by: dudepiston Mar 7 2007, 05:42 PM |
| No way man those green bags are hideous. I wish they'd change the design |
| Posted by: ANIMAL333 Mar 7 2007, 06:51 PM |
| The price isnt that far off from the competitors. Theres only one site i know of that has it for cheaper ($39.99). So imo, yea its worth it! |
| Posted by: GuardDog Mar 7 2007, 08:10 PM | ||
yes, I agree. I did a quick google search and found one or two other places lower, and would have liked to see it at 39.99 here but when you add it in with everything else on a normal order, having a one-stop-shop makes it worth it. |
| Posted by: Eric137638 Mar 7 2007, 09:24 PM |
| shit.. I should have waitied out for this instead of purchasing my PMax, o well. Live and learn. |
| Posted by: Dustin994 Mar 9 2007, 08:01 PM |
| For those of you that didn't notice, Epistane is on BN now!!! Sorry I have been AFK on a cruise in the caribbean! |
| Posted by: tree33 Mar 9 2007, 08:13 PM | ||
sure did I bought 2 bottles of it. Thanks Dustin994. |
| Posted by: hadi_D Mar 10 2007, 01:15 AM |
| thanks Dustin!!! |
| Posted by: Persistence Aug 22 2007, 09:55 AM |
| Simple question: Is this a PH or isn't it? |
| Posted by: opfor101 Aug 22 2007, 11:05 AM | ||
yes its a PH |
| Posted by: Persistence Aug 23 2007, 04:41 AM |
| Thanks! |
| Posted by: contaygious Aug 31 2007, 12:21 AM |
| Can someone please help a total noob with this? I read on another site that you have to tkae a pct with it. Can someone please reccomend some basic instructions for everything I should take to protect my liver while taking this and for it to work. If I order this and milk thistle will I be ok or is there something else i need? Thanks a ton! Tay |