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My Westside Template, changes or additions welcome |  |
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 Ok, major problem I'm seeing with the template is your choice of ME bench work.
| QUOTE | Flat bench Incline Decline Floor JM Press JM Floor Carpet Presses Pin Presses
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Nowhere do I see boards...for me, I haven't done an incline or a decline bench since I started back up training and I put over 100 lbs. on my bench using primarily boards and lockouts. Secondly, military presses and overhead work can be put in as ME exercises. For example, max out on an overhead press off of pins from chin height. Next problem: | QUOTE | Upper back or OHP work (6-10 reps for 3-5 sets)
Tri and or Delt work (12-15 reps for 4-5 sets)
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Let's sum this up really quick...do a ME exercise, hit your triceps, delts and lats...you can do some upper back work like reverse flys or face pulls. It's not "tricep and/or delt work". As for your DE squat work, you can do a wave if you want to, but personally I don't see a great need unless you have high volume. Next thing I'd suggest is only dedicate 1 out of every 4 workouts to deadlifts. You're going to find out that you are going to have to experiment with ME exercises to find out which ones work best for you...you can't really make up a template and expect optimal results. It is going to probably take 6 months to a year of going through various exercises and charting your progress to see what works and what doesn't. But as they say on reading rainbow...don't take my word for it.
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 | QUOTE | Ok, major problem I'm seeing with the template is your choice of ME bench work.
| QUOTE | Flat bench Incline Decline Floor JM Press JM Floor Carpet Presses Pin Presses
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Nowhere do I see boards...for me, I haven't done an incline or a decline bench since I started back up training and I put over 100 lbs. on my bench using primarily boards and lockouts. |
Actually those were under the Supplemental/Assistance work for Bench. Maybe I could make it a little clearer. The ME days were above that. Later on I'll start adding band work to more of the Supplemental and Assistance work.
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Secondly, military presses and overhead work can be put in as ME exercises. For example, max out on an overhead press off of pins from chin height.
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I like it, will add in.
| QUOTE | Next problem:
| QUOTE | Upper back or OHP work (6-10 reps for 3-5 sets)
Tri and or Delt work (12-15 reps for 4-5 sets)
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Let's sum this up really quick...do a ME exercise, hit your triceps, delts and lats...you can do some upper back work like reverse flys or face pulls.
It's not "tricep and/or delt work".
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I was trying to look back at my logs and see what I did on each day. It varied quite a bit so I tried to be as vague as possible but still answer questions on how many sets and reps does one do. I like your cut and dry approach. I'll try and rephrase it. | QUOTE | Next thing I'd suggest is only dedicate 1 out of every 4 workouts to deadlifts.
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I completely agree and down the road that is what I'll be doing.
| QUOTE | You're going to find out that you are going to have to experiment with ME exercises to find out which ones work best for you...you can't really make up a template and expect optimal results. It is going to probably take 6 months to a year of going through various exercises and charting your progress to see what works and what doesn't.
But as they say on reading rainbow...don't take my word for it.
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Point well taken and understood. I do like the template though to remind me of the basics to go by and take it from there what I need. The template is just that and nothing that I expect to give me everything I need.
You know I'll take any words you can give me. I'll have to update the template tomorrow as this site doesn't seem to like my browser at home and doesn't let me modify that post.
Thanks.
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 I'll tell you what... I read about Westside Barbell probably in 1995 or so in Powerlifting USA. I spent countless hours trying to make sense of all of the percentages and max effort exercises and all of the rhetoric that Louie Simmons spilled. I latched up with a guy who actually visited Westside on a regular basis and he wrote out a plan for me. Basically the only thing that I was doing that was had a westside flavor was benching by percentages. I did my best as a teenager in High School to read through Zatsiorsky's "Science and Practice of Strength Training". Quite frankly, I think you have to possess an affinity for that type of shit to begin to understand literature at that level. A year later or so I visited Westside and, while it was cool and I got to see the work ethic there...I didn't learn a whole hell of alot. Most of the guys there were really cool, Louie especially. Somehow I eventually began to understand that Westside/Conjugate training is kind of like Bruce Lee's "Jeet Kun Do" | QUOTE | I have not invented a "new style," composite, modified or otherwise that is set within distinct form as apart from "this" method or "that" method. On the contrary, I hope to free my followers from clinging to styles, patterns, or molds. Remember that Jeet Kune Do is merely a name used, a mirror in which to see "ourselves". . . Jeet Kune Do is not an organized institution that one can be a member of. Either you understand or you don't, and that is that. There is no mystery about my style. My movements are simple, direct and non-classical. The extraordinary part of it lies in its simplicity. |
Dizenzo said it best with the whole "Smash Fucking Weights' quote. Too many guys get wrapped up in reps, sets, volume...which exercises to do when...supplemental, accessory work, gpp...I'll be honest when I say that I still don't understand what the fuck the difference is supposed to be between supplemental and accessory work....and does it matter? Me and my training partner will pick a ME exercise...start light and work up to a max. We'll finish that up and hit the supporting muscle groups with whatever exercises we feel like hitting. That's really all there is to this. I can't continue to stress the importance of boards on the bench bro. I used to do alot of inclines, declines, floor presses, blast strap pushups...quite frankly ALOT of bullshit. When I started devoting time to the boards, my bench went up. I think that you can pretty much count on the same happening for you, otherwise boards wouldn't be so prevelent in powerlifting these days...
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