Andro Nitrate Fuel stacked with IDS M1-T Extreme? What about BSN Nitrix? Tribulus? Taurine? Creatine? Whey? What about all mixed into one?

I would recommend you stack M1-T with creatine and continue using creatine after your cycle with 6-OXO.

I don't think M-1T will have gyno effects on me. I've taken a lot of supplements and have had no side effects whatsoever so I'm not wasting my money on 6-oxo. I'm also 17 and I'm in perfect health. What should I do with my 90 tablets of Nitrix and my 30 tablets of Andro Nitrate Fuel. I've heard that No2 with creatine is better than just creatine alone.

What , you shoudn't even be fooling around with andro's and especially not M1-T.Your to young this stuff will stop you from growing.Just use your creatine and protein but do not use andro's.You should now better than this, have you even done your research and read the side effect's beside's gyno.Just stop.This is why there triying to ban this stuff, people just don't listen and do there research.

No PCT. Wow, you are the smartest person here. NOT, have you done blood test or litariture to support your opinion? I did not think so. Please don't spread opinion like that. I feel lots of people in this board know lot and experienced, but there are also some people just take your advice without knowing better.

Stupidest poster EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was gonna cycle with this liver cleaner from Swansonvitamins. Its a lot cheaper than the stuff here. I did have blood tests done. Twice in fact. No problems. My kidneys and liver are fine. I drink over a gallon of water a day. And other problems like male pattern baldness has never happened to anyone in my family. Acne? Not a problem, I have benzaclin and tretinoin gel. That'll take care of any acne on anyone. Lethargy? Not a problem, If i see my arms and legs gettin bigger, I will use that as a reason to workout more and not just sit around. I usually workout 2-3 hours sometimes.


Also, I stopped taking hydroxycut with ephedra a few years ago if that makes u happy.

What a liver cleaner, don't you get it.A liver cleaner are whatever is not going to bring your natural testestarone back up.Because no matter what, your test level's are going to drop,this is because you intruduce your body to andro's so your body think's it allready has enuff testerone.So it start's producing less of it's own and this were the PCT come's in to help your body restore and bring it back after your cycle.The PCT is not to fix you up from the side effect, do you get it.And like I said it again, your to young for andro's, do you want to stay short.

Just curious, but how tall are you guys?

k maybe im just nieve, but here look im 6 feet tall i DONT want to get taller im fine if i stop growing. I am 17 i did a cycle of M1T and loved it side effects wur barely noticeable at all!! and here's my little rant all of you are going NOOOOO YOU MUST DO PCT!!!!???? but your doing your PCT with 6-oxo, an ANTI-Estrogen correct? (i haven't done much 6-oxo research so i cud be wrong) but since M1T does NOTTTTT aromatize to Estrogen, an anti-estrogen does NOTHING to help you after a cylce. DONT GET PISSED AT ME CUZ I MAY BE INCORRECT IN MY 6-OXO ASSUMPTIONS (PLEASE DO NOT LET THIS POST DETER YOU FROM DOING A PCT, IT IS MORE OF A QUESTION/OPINION THAN A STATEMENT)

Damn...these kids are too young for this stuff.

No wonder congress wants to ban it...I would too after half the posts I have seen here.

DJMark: Your are just wrong: Here is the info: The last sentance is why.

6-OXO™ is what is known as a suicide inhibitor of aromatase. This means that 6-OXO™ binds to the aromatase enzyme in a permanent and irreversible manner, rendering it inactive. The result of this is an eventual diminishment of aromatase enzyme in the body and a concomitant reduction in estrogen levels. [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] A corresponding increase in testosterone production is usually experienced as well.

Joe Smoe...First off if you are lifting for 3 hours, that is just plain too much or you just like to take your time.

If you do PH's you have to do PCT. Second...Lethargy...doesn't mean you get lazy or unmotivated it means you get tired...Third..you are too young for PH's now wait till your own test levels calm down. Fourth...6-OXO is PCT also..not just gyno.

His question is about what I want to know, I am 20, so a little older. But is it ok to stack creatine, M1t, protien, and milk thistle then after 3 weeks stop m1t and continue with 6oxo, creatine, milk thistle, and protien? Also will these keep my liver/body fairly healthy? I have heard M1t can be harsh, but the 6oxo and milk thistle *should* level it out correct?

Oh ya, all of these will be in regular recomended dosage on bottle, except the protien, and milk thistle, I will take an assload of those.

You kids are fucking idiots. Do you know what is going on in your body right now? Your body is trying to set a natural testosterone level that will be sustained until you get much older (i.e., 50-60) Now, if you take PHs, youre fucking with that. Your natural testosterone level does not set until you are at the very least 21, not fucking 17. PCT wont fucking help you if your endocrine glands get fucked up. PCT is a necessity, not an option. Do some fucking research bitches, there are plenty of posts on here warning against usage of M1T at your age. Good god, I have no hope for our generation if idiots like you will be in positions of power. You are disregarding the advice of older, more experienced, more knowledgeable people than I, and its about the most stupid thing you can do. But hey, youre not me, so go ahead and fuck yourself over for the rest of your life if you want. Even though you could make great gains on creatine and protein alone right now. Or even just good clean food! How much you work out, how healthy you are, how much water you drink has nothing to do with how M1T will affect your testosterone output. If you want raisins for nuts the rest of your life, go ahead and do M1T. If not, wait about 5 years.

excuse my language, ignorance pisses me off.

yea the 6-oxo comentwas stupid...u should defintly get urself a bottle of thatstuff...and do the research 2 undestand y!.....but u older guys should not try 2 act like dads and tell us right from wrong ...were guna take PH's anyways if were posting about them, so just givesome legit advice

Threads like this should be deleted; it ruins it for the rest of us. 17yo fool.

Ditto. This is a ridiculous post.

If you people are complaining that older lifters are telling you to not take PHs then you know what? Maybe you shouldn't take them.

The simple fact that the 17 year old here was defending himself against a pct simply because 1-test doesn't aromatise is the reason that there is a legal age that one has to be to purchase 1-test in a store (its new york state law that someone has to be 21 to purchase it).

It is ridiculous to even use a prohormone, prosteroid, or steroid until your body has matured not only in lifting but in natural life. If you are just starting out lifting then pumping performance enhancing hormones into your body is not the right thing to do. The least you should do is know how to lift, which obviously this poster and half the commenters have no idea about. The fact that someone was saying that they didn't get lethargy simply because they have no problem lifting for THREE HOURS is proof in itself that they are barely mature enough to be in the weight room let alone taking hormones.

Also before taking hormones, one should know WHY they are taking them. If you are taking them to simply get massively huge and get lots of girls then you have a problem because chances are you are going to eat incorrectly, or probably lift incorrectly, or stack a hormone with something stupid and just get no results whatsoever.

This is a terrible thread for anyone to read, let alone people that are under 21 and are new to the lifting game (yes i said it, people that are teenagers (i'm taking 18 and below) can consider themselves new to the lifting game). Learn your body before you throw your money into hormones and other steroidal products because you are just going to mess yourself up. This thread is proof that young people don't know their own bodies enough to see beyond the fact that they might get some muscle.

Grow up people.

"but u older guys should not try 2 act like dads and tell us right from wrong ...were guna take PH's anyways if were posting about them, so just givesome legit advice "
THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. Here is our advice that is legit: DON'T TAKE PROHORMONES UNTIL YOU ARE 21.

It's FUCKTARDS like this that we have to thank for the ban! They don't know what the hell they are talking about and while they ask for advice, they don't want to listen unless it is what they want to hear!

To the 17 yo Fucktards involved in this thread, mark this on your calendar! You will give me hell about this post now. BUT one day you will look back and say "Wow, I was such a dumbass!"

You have so much to look forward to. Dont screw it up...research!!!

Sorry...had to say a little more.

Angry...you ask for legitimate advice?!? You have been given EXACTLY that! Are you going to heed this advice?