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| Posted by: David33665 Aug 23 2006, 04:52 PM |
| Introduction: I'm 33 years old, been weight training more than casually for 6 years. I weigh 215-220 lbs, and I don't pay much attention to fat intake. I try to get 200+ grams of protein a day, but I don't eat clean. I have always struggled with an appetite deficiency, so I eat whatever sounds good. I don't know what my bodyfat % is, but I would guess around 15%. My supplement regiment includes a daily vitamin, a joint supplement, flax seed oil, protein powder, and BN's CEE, DiArginine Malate, and Citrulline Malate powders of which I take 5 grams of each before and after every workout. I work a rotating night schedule, 5 nights on then 4 days off. Day 1 meal 1 - 3 Black Hole and other supp's ate 3 pancakes meal 2 - 2 brats on wheat buns, 1 protein bar, 2 scoops ON whey protein w/12 oz skim milk and blended strawberries meal 3 - preworkout 2 scoop ON protein shake w/8 oz skim milk, 1 protein bar workout: chest and biceps meal 4 - Postworkout 2 scoop ON protein shake w/8 oz milk workout: played hockey for an hour and a half meal 5 - 1 protein bar w/12 oz milk, 1 banana calories = 3266 protein = 285 g /35% fat = 113 g/31% carbs = 275 g/33% notes: my first day back to the gym after 2 weeks off. my appetite was poor today. I missed my post workout meal, just wasn't hungry. I was really tired all day, not sure why. |
| Posted by: David33665 Aug 23 2006, 09:42 PM |
| Day 2 meal 1: 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg meal 2: 2 beef/cheese sticks, 1 cup of yogurt, 2 scoops ON whey w/strawberries and milk. meal 3: pre-workout shake, 2 scoops ON whey workout: quads and calves meal 4: 8 oz chicken breast, 1 banana, 12 oz fruit juice meal 5: 1 cup oatmeal, 2 beef/cheese sticks, 10 oz milk calories: 2784 protein: 270 g/40% fat: 81 g/27% carbs: 241 g/33% notes: still not very hungry, but I think taking 2 weeks off has something to do with it. had a good workout, despite my poor eating habits the past 2 days. I will start to count my calories to make for a better log. |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Aug 25 2006, 03:51 AM |
| Great to see this log started !! |
| Posted by: David33665 Aug 25 2006, 04:02 AM |
| Day 3 weight: 216 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg meal 2: 6 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup yams, 1/4 cup baked beans, handful of grapes, fruit juice snack: protein bar (I use the homemade recipe I found on the diet and nutrition board here at BN) pre-workout ABB Pure Protein in a can workout: shoulders and triceps post-workout ABB Pure Protein in a can meal 3: 2 beef sticks/2 chicken sticks w/cheese, handful of grapes meal 4: 4 oz chicken, 1/4 cup yams, bowl of cantaloupe, handful of grapes, fruit juice meal 5: 4 chicken meat sticks, more grapes meal 6: 4 oz chicken breast, 1/4 cup yams, more canteloupe, fruit juice meal 7: 1 cup of oatmeal, 2 scoops ON whey w/milk calories: 4002 protein: 329 g/34% fat: 115 g/27% carbs: 418 g/39% notes: I was hungry today. This was my first day back to work, so there where more meals since I was up for about 24 hours. |
| Posted by: David33665 Aug 26 2006, 04:12 PM |
| Day 4 weight: 216 5:00 pm 3 Black Hole caps meal 1 - 5 egg whites & 1 whole egg, 1 protein bar 6:00 pm workout - back and traps 7:00 pm 2 scoops ON Whey w/milk 8:30 pm meal 2 - 6" Turkey w/cheese and veggies sub from Subway 11:30 pm meal 3 - 12 oz steak, 1/2 cup yams, about 3 cups of cantaloupe 3:00 am meal 4 - tuna and salmon sushi (white rice, avacado, seeweed, some other unidentifiable vegetables, soy sauce) 8:00 am meal 5 - 1 cup of oatmeal, 1 banana, 2 scoops ON Whey w/milk notes: I was really hungry at the end of my day, but work was too busy for me to eat. I could have fit another meal in there if time allowed. I am noticing that I wake up starving a couple times a day. I'm not usually that hungry at the end of my day, maybe it's the Black Hole. I'm working on finding a way to locate macros for food that isn't marked, such as the deli food I end up eating a lot of. I saw PotentiallyFatal's log, he's got great info. I'm going to try to get my log as detailed as his. |
| Posted by: David33665 Aug 28 2006, 06:28 PM |
| Day 5 weight - 216 meal 1 - 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg, 3 rice cakes, 1 banana meal 2 - 1/3 quart sesame chicken and white rice, 1/3 quart vegetable lo-mein noodles meal 3 - 8 pieces of tuna and salmon sushi w/white rice, avacado, seeweed, soy sauce meal 4 - 6 oz chicken breast, 1/4 cup yams, large bowl of cantaloupe and grapes meal 5 - 1 cup of oatmeal, 1 banana notes: seasonal allergies arrived today and I couldn't breath, so I missed my workout. Appetite was good despite having severe cold symptoms and missing the gym. |
| Posted by: David33665 Aug 28 2006, 06:34 PM |
| Day 6 weight: 218 meal 1 - 3 Black Hole caps, 1 cup of oatmeal, 3 bananas, 3 rice cakes meal 2 - 6" double turkey w/cheese and veggies sub from Subway workout - 1:45 hockey meal 3 - 2 Marie Calander's chicken pot pies meal 4 - 1/3 quart sesame chicken w/white rice, 1/3 quart vegetable lo-mein noodles meal 5 - 2 large protein and oat pancakes w/maple syrup notes: still fighting severe cold symptoms. Seemed to effect my appetite when I woke up more so than later. I am still noticing that I am starving about 12 hours after taking the Black Hole caps. A serving of oatmeal before bed wasn't enough, so I stepped up to the protein/oat pancakes. |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 1 2006, 01:30 PM |
| Flat on my back sick with a cold. No point in logging what little I've been able to eat. I continued to take 3 Black Hole caps every morning for the first 3 days, in the event there are residual effects. Ended up with sinus infection and didn't work out or eat much for 8 days. |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 8 2006, 11:11 PM |
| Day 7 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 4 oz chicken breast, 12 oz Japanese Pan Noodles from Noodles and Company (restaurant) meal 2: 10 oz wheat pasta w/red sauce workout: legs - thighs and calves meal 3: ABB Mass Recovery, 3 oz can of white tuna meal 4: 5 oz deli turkey and 1 slice of cheese on wheat bread meal 5: 6 oz chicken breast, 5 oz yams notes: feeling better, but weak at the gym. I expected as much. Appetite was good, again strongest at the end of my day. |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 11 2006, 10:25 AM |
| Day 8 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg meal 2: 4 oz deli sliced turkey on wheat bread, 8 oz milk preworkout shake: 2 scoops ON whey w/10 oz milk workout: shoulders and triceps postworkout shake: 2 scoops ON whey w/10 oz milk meal 3: 6 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup yams, 8 oz cottage cheese meal 4: 4 oz sliced deli turkey on wheat, 10 oz milk meal 5: 6 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup yams calories: 2409 protein: 330 g/57% fat: 53 g/21 % carbs: 146g/23% notes: my appetite is not good, probably from being sick last week. Felt ok in the gym, and thought I had more calories than it added up to be. |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 14 2006, 06:30 PM |
| Day 9 weight: 210 lbs meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg pre-workout 2 scoop ON whey w/10 oz milk workout: back and traps post-workout 2 scoop ON whey w/10 oz milk meal 2: 4 oz sliced turkey meat on wheat bread, 5 cups cantaloupe, 16 oz milk meal 3: 4 cups wheat pasta w/red sauce, 12 oz milk meal 4: 6 oz chicken breast, 1 cup yams, 2 cups grapes meal 5: 1 cup oats, 10 oz milk calories: 3831 protein: 317g/34% fat: 76 g, 18% carbs: 501 g/48% notes: I was horrified to see that I had lost nearly 10 lbs last week when I was sick. Workout was good and my appetite was big. I had a resurgence in motivation after stepping on the scale. The good news is my strength was the same as before, so I think what I lost was mostly fat. |
| Posted by: stonecoldtruth Sep 14 2006, 06:43 PM | ||
Dang bro, I'm sorry to hear about the sickness. That is pretty much typical for me too when I get sick my plan goes all to hell. I'll be poking in to make sure things continue ok, if you need anything just hit me up. SCT |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 14 2006, 06:45 PM |
| Day 10 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg meal 2: 4 oz sliced turkey meat on wheat bread, 10 oz milk workout: 1:45 minute hockey game meal 3: 6 oz chicken breast, 1 cup yams meal 4: 6 oz chicken breast, 1 cup yams snack: Nestle brand "Milo" nutrition drink (found it at the grocery store), 1 banana meal 5: 4 cups wheat pasta w/read sauce meal 6: 1 cup oats, 10 oz milk calories: 3600 protein: 256 g/30% fat: 68g/18% carbs: 514 g/52% notes: Almost a carbon copy of yesterday for food. My appetite was strong again. I had a ton of energy at hockey, my legs didn't tire at all. |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 14 2006, 06:59 PM |
| Day 11 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg meal 2: large Arby's roast beef sandwich (I was in a hurry) meal 3: sushi w/tuna, salmon, talapia, and shrimp, white rice, avacados, seeweed meal 4: deli turkey sandwich on croissant meal 5: 1 cup oats, 10 oz milk calories: 2541 protein: 135 g/31% fat: 64 g/23% carbs: 364 g/55% notes: busy day today. didn't have time to prepare or pack food for work, so I had to eat out 3 times. my appetite was low, but I didn't work out today either. |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 14 2006, 07:08 PM |
| Day 12 meal 1: 2 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg pre-workout 2 scoops ON whey w/10 oz milk workout: legs - hams and calves post-workout 2 scoops ON whey w/10 oz milk meal 2: 6 oz chicken breast, 1 cup yams, 3 cups cantaloupe, 1 cup grapes meal 3: 4 oz slice turkey on wheat, 2 cups cantaloupe snack: Nestle "Milo" nutrition drink meal 4: 6 oz chicken breast, 1 cup yams meal 5: 1 cup oats, 10 oz milk calories: 3578 protein: 330 g/38% fat: 69 g/18% carbs: 421 g/44% notes: had a great workout today, and my appetite was good. I'm getting sick of my menu this week, so I had to force myself to re-heat yet another chicken breast for meal 4. I was hungry, just sick of the same food over and over again. I am still noticing that my appetite is consistantly stronger at the end of my day than usual. Maybe the Black Hole? Special thanks to stonecoldtruth for the kind words. |
| Posted by: stonecoldtruth Sep 14 2006, 07:28 PM | ||
The appetite enhancing effects shouldn't still be in full force that long after taking the dose (I just noticed the morning dose, correct?) However, I myself also experience an overall increase in hunger when using black hole after about 2-3 weeks. You're welcome about the 'kind words', expect to see a lot more of me around. I decided that BN didn't get enough love  SCT |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Sep 15 2006, 12:13 AM |
| Just wondering if you guys have experienced the 'munchie' effect with this supp? I sometimes get intense cravings for sweets and/or greasy deep fried calorie dense foods. Since I've been taking BH I think I've hit 3 different buffets in the past few weeks. |
| Posted by: stonecoldtruth Sep 15 2006, 01:04 AM | ||
I personally used Black Hole during periods in which it was hard for me to get food down, but the few times I used it just during a normal part of the day I had some SERIOUS munchies. I think it depends on the person and when you take it. SCT |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 22 2006, 04:22 PM |
| I haven't been able to get to a computer for a while, but I wrote everything down: Day 13: weight: 212 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg pre-workout 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk workout: chest and biceps post-workout 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk meal 2: 4 oz sliced turkey, 1 slice of cheese, on wheat meal 3: 6 oz chicken breast w/4 oz yams, 3 cups grapes meal 4: 6 oz chicken breast w/4 oz yams, 2 cups grapes meal 5: 1 cup of oats, 2 scoop ON whey w/12 oz milk calories: 3319 protein: 283 g/35% fat: 67 g/19% carbs: 412 g/46% notes: I double checked the Black Hole label after reading some of the replies, and it says to take 3 caps before the first meal of the day. I haven't noticed any more munchie cravings than usual with Black Hole - I crave junk food pretty much all the time anyway. Keeping this log for all to see has helped me clean up though. Good appetite today, strong workout |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 22 2006, 04:32 PM |
| Day 14: weight: 212 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg pre-workout 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk workout: legs - thigs and calves post-workout 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk meal 2: 10 oz chicken breast, 1 serving yogurt, 1 banana meal 3: 4 oz sliced turkey w/1 peice of cheese on wheat meal 4: 4 cups cheese ravioli w/red sauce meal 5: 1 cup oats calories: 3689 protein: 336 g/38% fat: 109 g/28% carbs: 335 g/34% notes: I was very hungry today. I am going to try eating pasta once a day to get my calorie intake up. I want to get back the weight I lost when I was sick. Good workout and lots of energy all day. |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 22 2006, 04:44 PM |
| Day 15 meal 1: 3 caps Black Hole, 12 oz beef steak, 1 cup mashed potatos, 1 cup pasta salad, some snacks - ok a lot of snacks (went to a cookout when I woke up) meal 2: 6 oz chicken breast, 4 oz yams meal 3: 4 cups cheese ravioli w/red sauce meal 4: 1 cup oats calories: 3599 protein: 249 g/29% fat: 129 g/34% carbs: 357 g/37% notes: today was my first day off for the week, so it was a short one. Despite that, I took in about my average for calories. The cookout helped. Is there any better food on earth? |
| Posted by: David33665 Sep 22 2006, 04:55 PM |
| Day 16 weight: 214 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites, 1 whole egg meal 2: 3 cups cheese ravioli w/red sauce pre-workout 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk workout: shoulders and traps post-workout 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk meal 3: 2 raw jumbo shrimp w/cocktail sauce, 2 crab cakes, 1 cup mashed potatoes, 1 cup green beans meal 4: 1 cup oats, 2 scoop ON Whey w/12 oz milk calories: 3642 protein: 321 g/30% fat: 108 g/28% carbs: 348 g/36% notes: celebrated my wedding anniversary w/my wife. went to a seefood place and had a big dinner. workout was good, appetite was good although I should have tried to fit one more meal in during the day. |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Sep 27 2006, 02:46 AM | ||
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| Posted by: David33665 Oct 1 2006, 07:24 AM |
| Life threw me a couple curve balls last week and I didn't keep a log. I had the previous week written down and lost it. I'm going to start up again with the past two days. I wasn't taking Black Hole last week, but I ate well. No workouts, though. Days 17/18 weight: 215/214 meal 1: 3 Black Hole caps, 5 egg whites and 1 whole egg pre-workout: 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk workout: chest and biceps post-workout: 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk meal 2: 8 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup grapes meal 3: 8 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup stuffing meal 4: 8 oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup stuffing, 1/2 cup grapes meal 5: 1 cup oats, 2 scoops ON Whey w/12 oz milk calories: 3537 protein: 430 g/51% fat: 85 g/23% carbs: 248 g/27% notes: great workouts and good energy all day. I was hungry every 3 hours and able to finish my meals easily. I made a huge batch of chicken breasts and stuffing, so both days were carbon copies. Boring, but convenient. |
| Posted by: PotentiallyFatal Oct 2 2006, 10:46 AM | ||
Thats what I do. Prepare meals 3-4 days ahead of time, and keep it in an airtight storage container. Chilis/rice/yams/meats keep well for about a week. Any recipe that calls for fresh veggies...I will usually prepare the same meals minus the veggies, then steam them an add them in just before I eat. Makes it a helluva lot tastier and takes up less time...not to mention easier cleanup in the kitchen. |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Oct 5 2006, 11:05 AM | ||
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