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Posted: Sep 16 2006, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Sep 16 2006, 05:25 PM)
Ok, that's pretty much what I did, as far as the macros go, just like 15 more grams of carbs. I was prob getting about 40 or so grams of simple carbs from the Gatorade. I figure another 15 grams doesn't hurt post workout. I usually do 2 scoops of WPI, or about 46 grams.<br><br>pre workout, I've been using a maltodextrin/amino/caffiene blend I got on clearance at GNC. It gives me like 50 grams of carbs, so I dunno if it'd be necessary to do the 1 scoop of WMS in w/ that...whatcha think? I'm bulking w/ my cycle, so it might actually help.

I was just reading that thread at Intense Muscle and some guys were using a scoop preworkout with some good results. I've seen some good results as far as endurance doing it this way. Maybe it's just the extra carbs and not the WMS in and of itself but still. I do feel harder and more fuller off of it. This is some expensive shit so just saving the WMS for postworkout will make it last longer. That GNC blend will work, the carbs should give you a good kick.

For preworkout I mix the following:
2-3 scoops Xtend
3g AAKG
3-4g L-tyrosine
5g creatine
1 heaping scoop WMS (ON's scoop about 35g)

1st PWO mix:
2 scoops Xtend
2g AAKG
5g creatine
5g glutamine
2 scoops WMS (70g)

2nd PWO mix taken about 20-30 minutes later:
48-50g whey (ON's)
25g dextrose





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Posted: Sep 16 2006, 08:30 PM
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9.16.06

1:15-2:15pm

BB Rows:
155x15
185x10
235x8

HS Lo Row:
180x15
230x10
280x8

BB Upright Rows:
95x10
115x10
115x10

Standing Chest Cable Crossovers:
60x10
70x10
70x8

DB Hammer Curls:
50x10
60x10
70x10

Standing Cable Curls:
#12x12
#13x10
#15x6

Rear Delt Machine:
70x10
75x10
90x8

Right shoulder still hurting. Felt it in the cable crossovers, little bit in upright rows, and cable curls at the top of the contraction when heavy. Sucks I hope it goes away.

Muscles felt hard and pumped from the 1 scoop of WMS preworkout. I like this stuff a lot. It gives me a very full, pumped feeling during the day. It's also helping me in the gym. Been noticing that I have more endurance towards the end of the workout.

Resting tomorrow, have baseball game doubleheader. I hope I can throw. Gonna stick on an Icy Hot patch and load up on the Advil.

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Posted: Sep 17 2006, 06:57 AM
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I fucked up my right shoulder once...I was going too deep on bench dips and tweaked it. That pretty much sucked cuz it was nagging and lasted a good while. It was the the point where i couldn't really train anything involving the shoulder joint for a couple months.

Be very careful pushing it or you'll regret it. I eventually went to a chiro about it and had accupuncture done. That seemed to help and it eventually went away. Nowadays I don't have pain there, but like on incline benching, it shows the my right shoulder isn't quite as strong as my left.

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Posted: Sep 17 2006, 04:04 PM
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So I played 2 ball games this morning. Only one in the field though. Throwing wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Swinging a bat was ok but I did feel it a little bit. Overall it's feeling better so that's a good sign. The icy hot patch helped as did the Advils.

Tomorrow I'll give DB presses a shot to see how I feel. It's weird though. It seems most of the pain is under the side delt not exactly under the shoulder.

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Posted: Sep 17 2006, 04:11 PM
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Mine was right on the actual ball of the shoulder joint, so your's is prob just a strain of the muscle or something. That's good that it's feeling better. Mine stayed painful for a while.

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Posted: Sep 18 2006, 10:07 PM
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9.18.06

8:15-9:30pm

Well my right shoulder was feeling better today so I decided to give BB benching try. Plus my friend worked out with me. When alone I do DB's. The first set hurt but it seemed the slower I went the more bearable the pain was. So I just kept it light and the reps very slow and controlled. No explosive reps or anything like that. Rest of the workout was ok. Was pissed about my shoulder but what can you do. Tried to do arnold presses but that hurt so just did regular DB shoulder presses which didn't hurt.

BB Flat Bench:
135x15
185x15
225x9
185x17

HS Chest:
180x15
180x14
180x15

BB Squats:
135x15
185x15
335x7 pussied out, was good for 3 more hard reps

Seated DB Shoulder Presses:
40x15
60x5
55x10

HS Pullovers:
180x12
230x10
230x10

Seated DB Curls:
30x12
40x9
50x5

Cable Tricep Pushdowns:
#12x9
#11x8
#10x9
ran the rest of the stack up to #3, got between 4-8 reps each set.

Not sure if it was from the higher reps or the WMS preworkout but my chest and arms were pretty pumped today. Been noticing a very full feeling from the regular use of WMS. Weight is up a couple pounds too. Could be the extra glycogen storage from it?

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Posted: Sep 18 2006, 11:03 PM
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hows the shoulder willis? i have a ton of problems from past sports injuries and wear and tear. im getting hurt it seems every week now that football started. back, arms, ass, thighs. make sure you do a lot of stretches for shoulders, i take a 10 pound weight and stretch the shit out of my rotator in between every set when im doing chest, it helps by the 3rd or 4th set.

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Posted: Sep 19 2006, 12:53 AM
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It sucks. I will have Friday-Sunday maybe Monday off so maybe the rest will help it.


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Posted: Sep 19 2006, 10:17 AM
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I bet 400mg of nandrolone per week for eight weeks would let that shoulder heal up nicely.


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Posted: Sep 19 2006, 10:20 AM
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If I could score some gear I'd be all over it.

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Posted: Sep 19 2006, 10:28 AM
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You know what a doctor would tell you. "Rest it for a few weeks" yeah, right rolleyes.gif

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Posted: Sep 19 2006, 10:44 AM
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That's why I didn't go to one last fall when my left shoulder was fucked up. I just kept working it and eventually it went away. Now it's like 100%.


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Posted: Sep 26 2006, 09:41 PM
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9.26.06

9-10pm

Back at the gym after a 1 week layoff (due to a couple softball games and a Vegas trip)

The right arm still hurts. I don't think it's a shoulder issue. I think it's tendonitis or some shit like that. The pain is under my delt near where the bicep meets it. The discomfort is different from my left shoulder problem I had last fall. It's feeling better for normal day to day activity but tonight at the gym it still bothered me for chest presses.

DB Flat Bench:
65x12 stopped after this set. right arm bothered me

BB Rows:
185x12
205x10
225x10

HS Chest: (felt discomfort but not as much as DB's, went light)
180x12
180x15
180x15

HS Lo Row:
180x12
230x10
280x8

Seated DB Shoulder Presses:
40x15
55x10
70x6

EZ Bar Curls:
95x15
115x10

superset with

Cable Tricep Pushdowns:
#11x10
#10x10

Well looks like I won't be working chest that much due to the right arm pain. Grinded through the HS chest just to get some work in. This blows. Hope it heals up soon.

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Posted: Sep 26 2006, 10:17 PM
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fuckin shit will. its always the shoulders. the pain stays for weeks, then goes away out of nowhere. same thing happens to me. i just suck it up and cry when i go home. its been like that forever with me. thats the price u pay for being jacked sad.gif

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Posted: Sep 27 2006, 09:51 PM
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9.27.06

9:15-10pm

BB Squats:
135x15
225x10
315x5 not into it today

Leg Press Machine (weight of plates):
270x15
450x10
540x6

BB Upright Row:
95x12
115x10
125x10

Lat Pulldowns:
#12x10
#14x10
#16x6

Bent Over DB Rear Delt Raise:
25x12
30x10
30x12

HS Incline Chest:
90x12
90x15

So so workout, wasn't really into squats. Also still pissed off about right arm pain. Wasn't planning on doing anything for chest but went ahead and sat in the HS incline machine to try it out. Went really light and felt it a little. Tried to put on another plate for 180lbs total and fuck no it hurt. mad.gif So just went back down to 90lbs just to get some reps in. I miss my chest pump from when healthy. sad.gif

SFW err sorta sad.gif

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Posted: Sep 28 2006, 09:40 PM
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9.28.06

9-10pm

3/4 Rack Deadlifts:
225x15
365x12
425x10
545x3

BB Shrugs:
275x20
315x15
405x10

HS Pullovers:
180x12
180x10
180x8

HS Shoulder Press:
90x12 right arm pain was bearable
180 hurt too much had to stop mad.gif

EZ Bar Preacher Curls:
75x15
105x9
105x8

superset with

Rope Tricep Pulldowns:
#8x10
#8x9
#9x8

Pec Dec Machine:
125x12
135x12

Good training session. Pain in right arm still there. Gave the HS shoulder machine a shot but once I got past warmup weight the pain was too much so I had to ax that. Must be the angle of the handles. Regular shoulder DB presses don't hurt. Tried out the pec dec machine and the pain was there but it was bearable. Just sucked it up and pounded out the 2nd set. Gotta get in some chest training when possible. Probably rest tomorrow and back at it Saturday.

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Posted: Oct 1 2006, 04:49 PM
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10.1.06

2:30-3:30pm

BB Rows:
135x15
205x10
245x8

Seated DB Presses:
50x12
60x10
70x9

Seated Cable Rows:
#14x12
#17x10
#20 (whole stack)x10

BB Upright Rows:
100x10
100x10
110x10

Bentover DB Rear Delt Raises:
30x10
30x10
30x10

DB Hammer Curls:
55x10
70x10
70x8

Good energy. Didn't try any chest exercises because I want to rest my right shoulder some more.

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Posted: Oct 2 2006, 09:28 PM
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10.2.06

9:15-10pm

BB Squats:
135x15
225x10
275x10
325x5

Closegrip Lat Pulldowns:
#12x10
#14x8
#14x8

HS Pullover:
180x12
200x8
200x9

DB Side Laterals:
25x10
25x10
25x10

EZ Bar Curls:
95x12
125x5

superset with

Cable Tricep Pushdowns:
#11x10
#12x8

Not sure if it was because of the squats or something else but I was pretty fuckin beat at the end. Felt like passing out or sum10. Wanted to do some leg press but ran out of time.

Still no chest exercises because of right shoulder. sad.gif

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Posted: Oct 3 2006, 10:31 PM
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10.3.06

9:15-10pm

Good news today! Right shoulder was feeling better at work so I decided to give the chest a workout to see. Stayed light and reported minimal pain. Slight discomfort but enough to get some work in.

DB Incline:
40x20
60x12
60x12

HS Incline:
180x15
180x12
180x12

HS Hi Row:
180x12
270x10
270x9

Seated Smith Shoulder Presses:
125x10
145x10

Seated DB Curls:
35x10
45x5

Rope Tricep Pulldowns:
#10x12
#11x8
#11x5

3rd straight training day. Not as strong but energy was good. A little excited that I was able to work chest and about the improvement in my right shoulder. Rest day tomorrow and hopefully on Thursday I'll be able to work more chest with less shoulder pain.

Quads are fuckin sore as hell from squats yesterday.

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Posted: Oct 5 2006, 08:14 PM
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10.5.06

7:45-8:45pm

Rack Deadlifts:
225x15
365x12
428x8
545x3

BB Shrugs:
315x20
365x15
365x15

Flat DB Bench:
50x15
60x12
60x10

HS Chest:
180x15
230x12
230x10

Seated DB Shoulder Press:
60x10
70x6

Just wanted to get a short SFW session in so I could get home to watch the Mets game. My right shoulder is still annoying. Again went light on the chest exercises. Went slow and controlled. The pain was still there but it was bearable. It would probably hurt a lot more if I went heavier. Just gonna have to lift light until this shit goes away I guess.

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