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> Slayer’s Test Log for Scivations: Anagen
Posted: Apr 4 2006, 02:15 PM
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Slayer’s Test Log for Scivations: Anagen
Anagen- Anabolic Adaptagen
• 20-Hydroxyecdysterone
• Rhodiola Rosea
• Bacopa Monniera

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Firstly I would like to thank Marc for giving me the opportunity to be a tester. They have been very accommodating and understanding. I am very impressed with the reps at BN, both “jkeithc82” and “Scivation” have been doing a great work in addressing all questions and concerns, keep up the great work guys!

Brief history: Started lifting at the age of 14 under the supervision of a instructor. Unfortunately not much attention was aimed towards diet; 2 hours a day was allocated to weight training alone and another 2 in preparation for a boxing competition hence I weighed only 120lbs. However, once I started researching and participating on forums I realized my mistake and made drastic modifications to my training and diet. Since then, it has been a bumpy road to get my diet to where it has been for the past 3 years.

Main Goals: My short term goal is to increase muscle mass, while maintaining similar body fat. Currently my weekly gains are slow .5lbs/week, partly due to my clean diet.

Long term goals is 210 @ 6-10%.


My Stats
Height 5’8”
Weight 180
BF%:10-12


Caloric Intake Aim
3500-4000 calories


Your cardio type (if applicable)
Light cardio 20 mins. 1-2x a week.

Supplements:

Energized Xpand (Pre Workout)
Cit M and CEE (Post)
Pure Vitargo (Post)
ON Whey
Fishoil/Flax
Multi

Diet remains fairly consistent throughout the week.
Detailed Diet Plan available here:
http://www.mindandmuscle.net/forum/index.p...40&p=307200&st=

Calories 3000-3500
Protein: 360
Carbs: 300
Fat 70-80


Training [size=7]
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Monday: Upper 1

Flat Bench: 5 x 5
Incline Dumbbell: 2 x 6-10 (30 degree)
Incline DB Flyes: 1 x 12-15 (15 degree)
JS Rows: 4 x 6
Lateral Raise: 2 x 10-12
A1) Skullcrushers: 2 x 6-10


Tuesday: Lower 1
Incline Curls: 2 x 12-15
Hammers: 1 x 12-18
A2G Squats: 5 x 5, Pyramid to max set
Power Shrugs: 3 x 10-12
Leg Press: 4 x 10-12
Calves: DC Style
Abs Work: 5 x 10

Thursday: Upper 2

Low Incline Smythe: 15 RP (rest paused)
Shallow Decline DB Press: 2 x 8-10
Standing Military Press: 3 x 5-8
Pulldowns(2x15,12 wide),(1x12 medium)
Reverse Pulldown 1-12
Rev. P-downs: 2 x 10-12

Friday: Lower 2
Barbell Curls: 2 x 6-10
Standing Reverse Curls: 1 x 12-18
A2G Squats: 1 x 4-8, 1 x 20 (widow-maker)
Rack Deadlifts: 3 x 5
Ham. Curls: 2 x 10
Leg Exten: 2 x 10
Calves: 4 x 15-20
Abs Work: 5 x 10

- Still including loaded fascia stretches where applicable.



Attached is a great study regarding ECDY
Lafont R., Dinan L. 2003. Practical uses for ecdysteroids in mammals including humans: and update. 30pp. Journal of Insect Science, 3:7

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Attached File  Lafont_et.al._JIS_3_7_2003_ECDY_.pdf

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Posted: Apr 5 2006, 11:52 AM
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Day 1
Tuesday: Lower 1
Incline Curls: 2 x 8-10
Hammers: 1 x 12

A2G Squats: 5 x 5, 225-235lbs
Leg Press: 4 x 10-12 9 Plates
Ham Curls RP 20 160lbs
Calves: DC Style
Abs Work: 5 x 10


Day One
Today, I planed to execute every exercise with full range of motion especially on A2G.
A2G I started of with the same weight I used last week, however I managed to perform them with no trouble whatsoever and for my last set I was doing 235 for 5 reps.
Leg Press I was able to use over 9 plates and maintained 12-15 reps another great improvement since last week.

Today I was very well rested and hence greater strength. Its way too soon to notice Anagen as of yet.

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Posted: Apr 6 2006, 09:49 PM
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Day 3
Thursday: Upper 2

Low Incline Smythe: 15 RP (rest paused) 150lbs
Shallow Decline DB Press: 2 x 8-10 120lbs
Standing Military Press: 3 x 5-8 100lbs
Pulldowns(2x15,12 wide),(1x12 medium) 130lbs, 120lbs
Reverse Pulldown 1-12 120lbs
Rev. P-downs: 2 x 10-12 90lbs

In the past my main emphasis while training has been a mind-muscle connection, strength always came secondary to that. However for the last 3 months I have prioritized strength. I still ensure proper form while executing exercises and maintain a 3-0-2 tempo on most compound movements.

I was not 100% focused mentally however; there was a significant strength increase in every single exercise by approximately 10lbs. I am tempted to direct my strength increase to Anagen, however it is still way to soon and most likely a placebo effect.

Wednesday was my off day and since I last measured my weight on Tuesday, I have gained 2lbs while maintaining my exact same caloric intake. Like I mentioned earlier I am more accustomed to seeing a .5lb increase/week.

So far so good, tomorrow is a brutal leg training day and hopefully I wont be as distracted.

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Posted: Apr 7 2006, 09:15 PM
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Day 4
Friday: Lower 2
Barbell Curls: 2 x 6-10
Standing Reverse Curls: 1 x 12
A2G Squats: 1 x 4-8, 1 x 20 (widow-maker) 240lbs
Rack Dead lifts: 3 x 5 270lbs
Ham. Curls: 2 x 10 200lbs
Leg Exten: 2 x 10 180lbs
Calves: 4 x 15-20
Abs Work: 5 x 10

Training:
I increased my weights on every single exercise by at least 20lbs. Strength is really starting to increase significantly in the past week.

Diet: Today, I must admit my diet wasn’t spot on as I believe I was on a slight caloric deficit but will bring it back up indefinitely.

Opinions regarding Anagen:
Strength has gone up significantly, as you can tell. As far as body composition goes I can notice a slight increase in thickness throughout.

My dosage is 4 capsules/day with meals.

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Posted: Apr 8 2006, 11:00 PM
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You mention that you're taking them with meals but when is the last time you take it? For me those adaptogens rhodiola rosea & bacopa tend to have a mild stimulatory effect. So if I take it past 4pm I'll be up until 3am. I wonder if you are experiencing this but perhaps it's too soon to tell. Good luck with the log, your attention to detail is appreciated.
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Posted: Apr 9 2006, 10:50 AM
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I spread it throughout the day until 6pm, I haven’t noticed any stimulatory effect as of yet.

Thanks.

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Posted: Apr 9 2006, 02:14 PM
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Very cool Slayer. The one thing I've noticed from Anagen is the strength increase as well, and that is with a calorie deficit as well. Good it going man! biggrin.gif

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Posted: Apr 9 2006, 06:32 PM
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For the entirety of my log I will be on a caloric surplus. I have heard fantastic results from people taking ECDY during a cut, let’s see how Anagen works while on a bulk. I have noticed a reduction in my over all body fat hence I will begin tapering up my calories by approximately 100-200 calories every couple of days and monitor how my body responds.

My goals during the next 1.5 months are to near 190lbs while maintaining current body fat levels.

Is ECDY all that it claims to be? We will soon find out.


How long have you been on Anagen? I take it Mr. Scivation has also tried it? What were your results and diet like?

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Posted: Apr 11 2006, 12:14 AM
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Day 6
Upper 1
Flat Bench: 4 x 5 (200lbs- 20lb increase)
Incline Dumbbell: 2 x 6-10 (30 degree) (120lbs)
Incline DB Flyes: 1 x 12-15 (15 degree) (50lbs- 10lb increase)
JS Rows: 4 x 6 (160lbs)
Lateral Raise: 2 x 10-12 (50lbs- 10lb increase)
A1) Skullcrushers: 2 x 6-10

Training
Great workout today, high energy throughout the brutal 50min workout.

Diet:
Top notch, very carb and protein rich. Perhaps slightly too high today. wacko.gif

Supplement Anagen
Over the weekend I noticed greater definition in my abs hence I gradually tapered up my calories. Today there was defiantly a small increase in over all thickness including my trouble part (arms).

Weight:183 (Up three lbs in one week.) I generously attribute 1lb in fat gains.

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Posted: Apr 11 2006, 01:48 AM
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sorry slayer but could you add the what day of your log it is at the top Ex: day 1 day 2 day 3 so i can follow to compare my results easier

sorry to be a bother


anyway awesome job with your gains i hope i see the same results!

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QUOTE (Pxboarder @ Apr 11 2006, 02:48 AM)
sorry slayer but could you add the what day of your log it is at the top Ex: day 1 day 2 day 3 so i can follow to compare my results easier

sorry to be a bother


anyway awesome job with your gains i hope i see the same results!

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Done bro, silly of me to forget.

Good luck

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Day 7

Tuesday: Lower 1
Incline Curls: 2 x 12-15
Hammers: 1 x 12-18

A2G Squats: 5 x 5, 225-235lbs
Leg Press: 4 x 12-15 10 Plates (1 Plate increase and greater reps)
Ham Curls RP 20 170lbs (10lb increase)
Calves: DC Style

Training
Brutal brutal brutal.

Diet:

I decreased carb intake by around 70grams, yesterday I over did it.

Supplement Anagen
A small improvement in strength today, but defiantly noticing greater over all fullness!

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Day 9
Thursday: Upper 2

Low Incline Smythe: 15 RP (rest paused) 160lbs (10lbs increase)
Shallow Decline DB Press: 2 x 8-10 140lbs (20lbs increase)
Standing Military Press: 3 x 5-8 110bs (10lb increase)
Pulldowns(2x15,12 wide),(1x12 medium) 140lbs (10lb increase)
Reverse Pulldown 1-12 140lbs (20lb increase)
Rev. P-downs: 2 x 10-12 100lbs


Training
The reason for the drastic increase in strength is partly due to a slight change in exercise execution.


Diet:

Spot on.

Supplement Anagen
Great improvement in strength and I weighed myself today and was at a solid 185. That’s a 5lbs increase in 9 days, obviously some of it is fat but nonetheless my diet has remained pretty static, the only changes I make is the amount of carbs I consume which range from 100-400.

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Day 11 – Saturday
Lower 2

Barbell Curls: 2 x 6-10
Standing Reverse Curls: 1 x 12
A2G Squats: 1 x 4-8, 1 x 20 (widow-maker) 260lbs (20lb increase)
Rack Dead lifts: 3 x 5 270lbs (10lb increase)
Ham. Curls: 2 x 10 200lbs
Leg Exten: 2 x 10 180lbs
Calves: 4 x 15-20
Abs Work: 5 x 10


Training

Still a ever increasing progression in strength.

Diet:
High Carbs and fat, moderate fats.

Supplement Anagen
Great improvement in strength again.

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QUOTE (Slayer of Souls @ Apr 13 2006, 09:28 PM)

Great improvement in strength and I weighed myself today and was at a solid 185. That’s a 5lbs increase in 9 days, obviously some of it is fat but nonetheless my diet has remained pretty static, the only changes I make is the amount of carbs I consume which range from 100-400.

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QUOTE (jkeithc82 @ Apr 17 2006, 03:49 PM)
QUOTE (Slayer of Souls @ Apr 13 2006, 09:28 PM)

Great improvement in strength and I weighed myself today and was at a solid 185. That’s a 5lbs increase in 9 days, obviously some of it is fat but nonetheless my diet has remained pretty static, the only changes I make is the amount of carbs I consume which range from 100-400.

Whoa! biggrin.gif

Actually a double WHOA. If I limit carb intake I maintain fullness and drop fat.

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jkeithc82 gotta a question...i am goin to be doin a cutting of prostanzonal and was wondering if i could stack the two togwther in order to not loose any of my size. Let me know what you guys think.
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Wrong forum.
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Day 13
Flat Bench: 5 x 5 (200lbs)
Incline Dumbbell: 2 x 6-10 (30 degree) 120lbs
Incline DB Flyes: 1 x 12-15 (15 degree) (50lbs- 10lb increase)
JS Rows: 4 x 6 (170lbs) 10lbs increase
Lateral Raise: 2 x 10-12
A1) Skullcrushers: 2 x 6-10

Training

Great workout today.

Diet:
I reduced carbs over the weekend to approximately 40-60 grams. Today I felt just as full but tighter.

Supplement Anagen

Great fullness all around, weights felt relatively lighter compared to last Monday. Muscle mass has defiantly increased!

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Day 14

Tuesday: Lower 1
Incline Curls: 2 x 6-8
Hammers: 1 x 12-18

A2G Squats: 5 x 5, 250lbs (25lb increase)
Leg Press: 3 x 6 12 Plates (DId low reps today)
Calves: DC Style

Training: Not the best workout I had but it was decent.

Diet:
Carbs have been around 250grams for the past 3 days while protein and fats remain high.

Overall thoughts:
I wanted to drop a small amount of body fat since my weight increased too rapidly. Today I was at 183lbs a small drop but nothing too significant. I feel just as muscular and full as I did a week earlier. Strength continues to increase and hopefully an increase in muscle mass will follow.

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Posted: Apr 19 2006, 10:26 AM
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yeah so i guess your using Anagen ... I havent been over here in a while so I didnt see this thread.

Looking real good slayer. I may have to add this to my pct.

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