17-HD

I recently started taking 17-hd and I notice if i dont eat anything i'll get real neasous feeling and like my heart is beating out of my chest. My questions are what are the side effects and how safe is it to take? I planned on maybe doin a cycle for maybe 3-4 weeks then off cycle take 6-oxo. Also I was told to take some pro liver supplement and something for cholestoral. Im new to all this im 170lbs and 6ft. Looking to get bigger and any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

its a natural test booster that also gives an extra energy kick, that could be why u feel sick when you dont eat.

nothing needed to take for 'off cycle', this product is not hormonal and doesnt need to be cycled for any reason other then not becoming immune to it

Well is it normal to feel all jittery and neasous for hours? me and my friend felt the same way when we took it today. But for some reason the first time I took it I felt great. I had food in me. But maybe I need to eat more beforehand.

Sounds like blood sugar or central nervous system over stimulation.

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I took a sample packet of 17HD and I felt slightly queesey but not too bad. So I bought a bottle of it because I did like the pumps I got from it.
WELL
I took a pill at 6:00PM by 6:19PM I could feel it.
I started my work out at about 6:45PM and my heart was racing slightly nothing like how Stacker 3 (the original version) used to freak my heart out. But racing non the less. So each set took maybe an extra 30 seconds to a minute so I could breathe and slow my heart down slightly. Pumps were very good, consistant and I never felt tired.

By 7PM I became increasingly nautious. Food and Tums didn't fix it. By 8PM I started to feel cold and clammy and couldn't stop shivering. By 9PM the shaking started to go away but I was still horribly nautious.

I tried to fall asleep around midnight. It was almost impossible. I don't think I actually fell asleep until 3 or 4AM.

I actually woke up at 7:20AM still jittery and still nautious and my face was VERY oiley. I went back to bed and woke up at noon still nautious slightly.

So did it work and give me a better lifting experience? Well yea.
But my body didn't like it. I'm going to try and take a 1/4th of a dose and see how I react and build it up from there.

I don't typically react badly to stimulants. I take no-xplode and I don't feel any heart palpatations or racing when I take that.

Well, after taking it a few more times I can now take it and just feel the good parts of it with none of the sides I mentioned before. good product.

I broke the tablets open and made myself 1/3rd doses to build a tolerence and it worked perfectly.<br><br>I'm not having any problems yet. Just to be careful I'm going to keep a 3 week cycle program.

I take 1 capsule with 2scoops of No-explode and don't really feel like it is doing anything....


Thinking about taking 2 capsules next workout....

Would it be ok to drink while on 17-hd? I drank some last night and idk if it was the 17-hd or the drinks were really strong but I can normally hold my own and last night I couldnt.

I am currently taking 17-HD, and i love it, but i think most complaints come from people who are not serious or ready to take this type of supplement. I am 205 lbs, and i am sure if you are 150-170lber, than it is going to have a more dramatic effect on your body. Good pumps and good energy, and i always take mine in the morning with a small portion of food. I would not take this any later than lunch time, otherwise you may experience some sleeplessness. Does any know if this stuff would show on a drug test??

A few of you guys are saying how this stuff is a stimulant, yet are also taking a vaso-diolator with it. That makes no sense. NO-XPLODE is NO2 and CEE and therefore is NOT a stimulant, that is why when you mix it with this stuff it produces nothing because the two compounds counteract each-other seeing that a stimulant is a vaso-constrictor. So i would not recommend taking this with a cell volumizer. And for the people who are getting sick on it if you weight only 170 you need to be going on stuff like volumizers and keeping your calories high. If you don't know how to eat right then you shouldn't be taking any of this stuff in the first place.

Is there caffeine in this stuff? I don't think there would be but just making sure.

This stuff sounds interesting....is it more of a Hydroxycut, Ripped Fuel type supplement? Or is more related to M1-test or 1-AD? I'm just curious...the first two have always givin me a jittery, low appetite reaction. Lots of energy in the gym and a hot, burning feeling when working out. But, the 1-AD and M1-test were the ones that helped drastically increase my pumps in the weightroom.

Is this stuff a combination of the two?

theres no caffiene in it nor should you take anything with caffiene in it as this wouldnt defeat the purpose

I have a question guys........I'm 49,....and am starting to lift...... been lifting on and off for about a year....... I dont produce test like you young bucks, so am thinking about 6-oxo...... is their any risk of prostate cancer? havent been able to find any info.........thanks for the help!

scratch that last, I meant 17 hd,....any risk of prostate cancer?

wow theres no risk for prostate cancer with this crap. 17-HD is just a bunch of herbs meant to help give you a energy kick and boost test. The only known side effect is increased blood pressure. So congrats on everyone who purchased this stuff in a store because you just threw 80 bucks at someone for some herbs!

caffeine is a vaso dialator and it works awesome with NO stimulators, kinda why they put it in alot of the stacks. Caffeine competes with calcium at a cellular level with creatine (which is why they don't workwell together). However some types of creatine (CEE) work great in conjunction with caffeine.


ephedra, and other mau haung extracts act as vaso constrictors-- as do anything that significantly raises epinephrine(sp) and nor epinephrine(sp).... you now speed, crystal meth.

timing is important when using creatine and caffeine together, if you do it right you get the best of both worlds.

caffeine has MANY health benifits