Thermolife Dicana-Stizm Stack

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Posted by: GuardDog Jan 25 2006, 12:11 AM

I just received the Dicana/Stizm product last night and started it today. I will review it for 30 days or until the bottles run out. I calculated the basic layout for 30 days, but might increase the dosage if needed.

I am using Stizm as a wakeup/pre-workout boost, while using the Dicana as a metabolic regulator. My overall goal is to loose BF%.

Basic product usage layout:
morning - upon waking/pre cardio
1- Dicana
1- Stizm

afternoon
1- Dicana

night - pre weightraining
1- Dicana
2- Stizm

Additional supps:
PWO shake (1 scoop of On's Whey, 3gms of BN CEE, 1 scoop of gatorade mix)
Milk thistle
Multivitamin
Glucosamine/MSM/Chrondontrin
note: I am worried about Dicana making me appear flattened and not getting good pumps, so I have standby supps just in case it is needed. They are basically additional BCAA, ALCAR, Taurine, etc.... We will see how it goes.

Diet:
I am following a diet the Mrs has us on from E-Diets.com . It is called Eating For Life by Bill Phillips. It is the same as his Body for Life Program . Here is a link to it iodf you want to check it out: http://www.ediets.com/billphillips/diet/ . It is a basic 6 meals a day, with one cheat day on Sunday. I am using her statics so the calorie consumption is about 1200-1300 per day. With the PWO protein drinks and a little extra healthy snacking, I get up to 2000 cals a day max. The really cool part of using ediets is it lays out all your meals for each day, each week, and even gives you a shopping list of all the items you will need. It doesn't get any simplier. I believe most everone is familiar with BFL diet plans, but here is a example of todays mealplan to give you an idea so I don't have to post it every day:

Monday - January 23
Breakfast - Fortified Hot Oat Bran Cereal with milk, 1/4 cup nonfat, skim milk

Midmeal #1 - Creamy Crab Dip with carrots and bread sticks, 4 baby carrots, 3 bread sticks

Lunch - Shrimp Salad, 1/2 small apple

Midmeal #2 -Cottage cheese and fruit

Dinner - Chicken-Mango Salad

Dessert - Very Berry Crepes

I can't post pictures due to work, so I hope you guys understand. However, here are the starting stats:
Body WT: 223
BF%: I guess about 20%.....
Body Fat WT: 223 x .20 = 44.6
LBM: 178.4
Other stats in sig.

Yes I know I have gained a lot of gut from the last set of bulks I have done. Add on top of that I hate cardio and sit behind a desk all day. Also basically for the last year I have had knee problems that kept me out of doing cardio. I have recovered from surgery and am now getting back to cardio. I easily pack on muscle, so obviously loosing fat is the hard part, which is why I wanted to test this stack. If it works, I will know it quickly.

My goal is to get down to around 200. So that is basically to loose 20lbs or 10% bodyfat. If I did an average of cardio and diet, then I could easily loose 2-3 pounds per week, giving me 8-12lbs for the 30 days. Since I am adding on these supps ontop of the cardio, then I expect for the results to be better. I figured an additional 8 lbs or 1-2 lbs per week isn't too much to ask. I also don't want to cut into loosing a lot of muscle, so I am going to watch it carefully. I will update the stats calculations every Sunday morning instead of everyday. Doing it everyday drives me crazy since weight flunctuates too much between water intake and so on. I can get better, more realistic readings after a week. I really think taking it everyday is a waste of time.

My workout routine:
cardio - Mornings as much as possible Mon-Sat. Roughly 20 mins. Exercise routines will vary daily to consist of one of the following: step aerobics, treadmill running, indoor cycling, and of course kickboxing on the heavy bag. I will mix it up depending on how I am feeling in the morning. I will also do abs and some leg extensions/hamstring curls in the morning for knee rehab purposes on top of cardio to make it a 30 min morning workout.

weight training- Nights Mon-Sat 30-40 mins of asskicking compound exercises. I was thinking of changing this up but will hold out a little while until I can see what the supps are doing.
Mon/Thu - chest/back
Tue/Fri - shoulders/bis
Wed/Sat - legs/tris

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Today:
Morning - Supps went fine. I didn't need my morning coffee to get awake at 5 am. I assume it is the Stizm. I never felt jittery. Cardio was reebox step aerobics.
Afternoon- didn't feel anything in particular
Night - Workout was great. However, I don't know if it was the 2 caps of Stizms or the fact I was pissed off by the end of the day from co-workers. I normally let them fuel my fire in ripping iron apart. I will try to watch it in the future.

Posted by: italionstallionl Jan 25 2006, 11:19 AM

Looks good GD, good luck

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 25 2006, 07:49 PM

Thanks bro. If I do really well, I will let you put me in a Thermolife commercial or magazine ad.

Today:
Took normal supps this morning. Energy for working out was great. Still didn't need coffee. My stomach was a little upset this morning before working out. I don't know if this is supp related or not since it hasn't happened before. I will note it over the next couple of mornings to see. However, I doubt it is because I didn't exeperience any problems when I took them later in the day.

Note: I was really busy at work this afternoon and forgot to take the Dicana at lunchtime. I took my normal preworkout supps and then tooks the missed Dicana when I got home tonight. Therefore, I still took the normal amount but at different times today. I don't think timing really matters on this like something would if I was maintaining elevated blood levels, so I am not too worried about it. The bottle doesn't say to keep the dosages evenly spaced apart.

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 26 2006, 10:34 PM

Day 3:

Took morning supps as normal. My stomach wasn't bothering me that much, but still a little messed up. I don't think it is anything to worry about. It could be my body adjusting to the new energy stimulants. The morning cardio was step aerobics again. I was going to run on the treadmill, but it aggrevates me since it is old and worn out. I was then going to do kickboxing, but I just decided to do it another day.

Noon supps as normal. No problems.

Evening supps before working out was taken as normal. However, I got called to a meeting before I could work out so I had to work out when I got home. Everyone in the meeting thought I was really excited about the meeting once the stizms kicked in. LOL The workout went OK since it was a couple of hours later. Besides, I am a little sore from working out I think. I normally don't get too much DOMS, so maybe it is because I was really pushing shoulders yesterday.

Posted by: Btrice Jan 26 2006, 10:39 PM

I was taking 4 a day, but GD I'd like to know if you start to feel any neck soreness around the end of week 2 of the Dicana.

Posted by: italionstallionl Jan 26 2006, 11:06 PM

Keep up the hard work

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 26 2006, 11:15 PM

QUOTE (Btrice @ Jan 26 2006, 09:39 PM)

I was taking 4 a day, but GD I'd like to know if you start to feel any neck soreness around the end of week 2 of the Dicana.

Will do.

I did notice a weird neck stiffness yesterday, but I thought it was from staring at my computer monitors all day.

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 27 2006, 10:38 PM

Day 4:
Product dosages and timings were normal.

Morning workout was fine.

I was feeling like I was dragging ass all day and had to drink a couple cups of coffee today for a pickme up. Also had to take a couple of aspirin to fight the soreness I have been developing so I went a little easy on tonights workout. I guess I am pushing it harder than normal to get worn down like this.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention in the beginning post that I drink a couple cups of green tea throughout the day normally instead of drinking coffee.

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 28 2006, 10:19 PM

Day 5:

Dosages as normal.

I woke up late this morning since I was really tired and wanted to sleep. Finally got up at 8am. No morning cardio. I waited until tonight to workout. For my workout, I went walking around the neighborhood to get some fresh air. It was more like race walking to get the heartrate up.

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Jan 28 2006, 11:46 PM

QUOTE (GuardDog @ Jan 25 2006, 01:11 AM)

I was thinking of changing this up but will hold out a little while until I can see what the supps are doing.
Mon/Thu - chest/back
Tue/Fri - shoulders/bis
Wed/Sat - legs/tris

I agree about changing your routine around. But it’s defiantly is a good idea to hold out for a little while.

Best of luck GD!

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 29 2006, 11:14 PM

Thanks Slayer.

Day 6:
Body WT: 221, -2
BF%: Not sure, my measurements came in way off. I will take them next week.

Sunday- day off of training and dieting. It is the one day that I can eat what I want. However, I still eat clean, just more of it.

Note: I would have thought I would have lost more than that considering I am taking supps. Maybe the supps take a while to kick in? From this, it doesn't seem like I will get below 210 once the 4 weeks is up. I hope it picks up more. I could add in more cardio and less weight training if needed. I am pretty wore out from this past week of working out. Maybe I will go lighter on the weights, but keep the same routine. It will allow me to speed up the weight training section so I can add in cardio at night too.

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 30 2006, 09:16 PM

Day 7:

dosages as normal.

workout:
Morning- None. I had a appt at 0830 this morning and I woke up late.

Evening- I did my normal weight training but with a little lighter weight. For some reason, I just wasn't feeling the urge to push the limit tonight. It was still a good workout though. I also knew I was going to make up for my missed cardio this morning after my lifting session, so I was holding back purposely to have energy afterwards. The cardio session was a 10 mintues of race walking on the treadmill and 10 minutes on the bike. Overall, it was the same as my normal 20 minutes of cardio. It felt pretty good.

Posted by: GuardDog Jan 31 2006, 10:40 PM

Day 8:

Dosages as normal.

Workouts:
Morning- None, had an early meeting again.

Evening- I actually took the supps about 10 mins before working out since I was running late due to work idiots. So I don't know if it was the supps or people pissing me off at work again, but I had a great workout. I only had about 30ish minutes to really workout so I thought I was going to have to go light to get everything in on time. I think with the mix of rage and supps, it fueled my fire to sling some iron around and I didn't go light. I actually finished a little earlier than expected and got on the treadmill for a few minutes to walk down my heartrate. The crazy thing was that I felt like I could push more lead around but I didn't want to overdo it, so I held back and decided to stop. I was already sweating up a storm.

Does anyone know if I should be taking the dicana all at once or split them up like I have been doing? OR if I should be taking it right before bedtime. I have kind of been wondering about it to make sure I am dosing it correctly.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 1 2006, 11:06 PM

Day 9:

Dosages: normal. I am still wondering if I am taking the dicana correctly.

Workouts:

morning- Great morning cardio workout. Plenty of energy.

evening- Another crazy day at work. I had to work over so I just worked out here at home which was 4 hours after taking the supps. I didn't plan on it being so far away from the time I took the supps to the time I worked out. However, I am still getting plenty of energy from the Stizm. Even having to workout later, it was a great grueling workout. I had an abundance of energy to do the whole thing. I would have thought I would have been tired working out so late. So that is a good sign. I was probably letting my anger at work fuel my workout a little too.

Posted by: italionstallionl Feb 2 2006, 12:41 AM

Sorry about missing the last post. Split them up like you are, it is best if you can take the dicana on an empty stomach, and before bed is totally fine.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 2 2006, 06:36 AM

QUOTE (italionstallionl @ Feb 1 2006, 11:41 PM)

Sorry about missing the last post. Split them up like you are, it is best if you can take the dicana on an empty stomach, and before bed is totally fine.

Cool thanks. I have been taking them on an empty stomach pretty much. The lunch time pill is the closest time when I eat something. Do you know how long it takes the pill to break down and absorb into the system? That way I can time my lunch meal better. I want to make sure I get the most out of it for it's effectivness.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 2 2006, 09:48 PM

Day 10:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- Great morning cardio workout. Plenty of energy.

evening- Went a little light on the weights tonight to do more reps in the 10-12 range. It was pretty interesting. I might do that a little more often. Overall the energy was pretty good.

Just wondering, but am I supposed to be feeling anything from the Dicana like some thermo products or is it one of the supps that works without noticable signs. The reason I ask that is because I don't feel anything and wonder if I should be upping the dose for my size. They only problem with upping the dose is that I will run out more quickly.

Posted by: italionstallionl Feb 2 2006, 10:49 PM

It should make you a little warmer. I notice it mainly when i workout; i sweat a lot more during workouts when i'm using it.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 3 2006, 11:09 AM

Well, then I probably won't notice the increased sweating too much since I already sweat like a whore in church. LOL I push myself pretty hard and fast anyway, but I will try and notice it if I do start sweating more. thanks

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 4 2006, 12:14 AM

Day 11:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- Nothing. Woke up late.

evening- Nothing. Had last minute meetings at work.

Note: Pretty much a bad day overall for personal and work related. When I got home I didn't even feel like workig out. Hopefully tomorrow will be better.

Posted by: italionstallionl Feb 4 2006, 07:07 AM

QUOTE (GuardDog @ Feb 2 2006, 06:36 AM)

QUOTE (italionstallionl @ Feb 1 2006, 11:41 PM)

Sorry about missing the last post. Split them up like you are, it is best if you can take the dicana on an empty stomach, and before bed is totally fine.

I would say a half hour before eating or about 1 hour after eating (on a regular sized meal) would be totally fine.

Sometimes you've gotta take an off day from the gym and just rest the mind. Hopefully everything gets smoothed out for ya.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 5 2006, 12:54 AM

I hear ya man. Somedays you kick ass and some times the day kicks your ass.

Day 12:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- didn't really do anything special, I just did some cardio.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 5 2006, 02:33 PM

Day 13:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- nothing yet.

Notes: Today is Sunday, my official off day. Since I have basically had the last two days off, I might do some type of playing around in the weightroom today so I don't feel as bad. However, since it's Superbowl Sunday, don't hold me to it. I might be heading down to the corner store to grab a quick brewskie or two to watch during the game. <evil laugh>

OK, now the week ending data and results:

WT: 222.8, basically +1.
BF%: Here is the interesting part. When I started, I took measurements that were about 20.5% percent. The next week the mearsurements seemed way off because it showed in at around 10-11 %. I didn't believe it so I said I would wait until this week. Now, I have taking several readings today and they have turned out varying, but still rather low. They were 13.6, 14.5, and 12.7 with an average of 13.6. Now that either tells me I either seriously screwed up in the initial readings, or something is wrong with my FastTrackII reader. I say that because in 2 basically two weeks I have dropped 6.9 % BF. I don't see how that is possible considering I don't feel as though I have dropped that in appereance, especially in my midsection. I guess we will have to see what happens next week. I also don't think I will reach my goal of 200lbs though since 1/2 the time is gone. We will just have to see what does happen. I really want my midsection to shrink.

On a good note though, I went to get my haircut yesterday and the women at my salon were going crazy about my changes. I told them I weighed about the same but they said it looked like I had put on muscle mass. I told them it was probably the shirt I was wearing. LOL

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 7 2006, 07:46 AM

Day 14: - This is for Mondays post. I forgot to post it last night since I got home late.

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- great normal workout for Mondays.

Note: Had to go to a birthday party and had a small piece of cookie and one scoop of yogurt ice-cream. I don't think it matter too much considering on how low I am eating.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 8 2006, 06:31 AM

Day 15: - This is for Tuesdays post. I forgot to post it last night since I got home late from work and feel asleep early.

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- light cardio all day. Not really a complete cardio session cardio but I did so much walking around and running up and down three flights of stairs all day that it was constant cardio for me. When ever I go up the stairs I sprint up them to get an extra effect. It is such an effect that I feel my heart is going to jump out of my freakin chest with my legs on fire when I get to the top. I figured I must of went up and down the stairs about 10 times today.

Note: Worked sucked again and I had to work over to get some stuff done for a pretty big project. I was mentally exhausted when I got home and feel asleep on the floor watching tv and talking to the Mrs.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 8 2006, 10:56 PM

Day 16:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- intense cardio.

evening- I combined my missed workout from last night with todays workout. It was like a full body routine that really kicked my ass. Crazy thing was that I still had energy to keep going and felt like the weights were light as feathers. I knew I had to stop so I wouldn't break into overtraining.

Note: When I was working out tonight, I leaned against the squat rack supporting myself with my arms extended. I happened to look over in the mirror and noticed my triceps. They were starting to look ripped as hell and even more solid. I had to do a double take and look at the other one just to make sure. It was a pretty good feeling. The odd thing is this morning I had thought I saw something in my quads doing the same thing but dismissed it. Now that I think back on it, that was pretty cool too.

Posted by: italionstallionl Feb 9 2006, 12:03 AM

Sounds great GD, its always nice to be able to see the changes happen.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 9 2006, 11:30 PM

Thanks IS. It is incredibly inspiring when you get a visual.

Day 17: Thursday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing, overslept

evening- I hurt my wrist somehow and went lighter on the weights tonight. I picked up the pace/reps and still got a great workout.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 10 2006, 11:33 PM

Day 18: Friday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing, overslept-----f'n again. I swear I need a new alarm clock. One of the reasons is because I am fighting a cold and have been taking cold medicine to help sleep for the last week or so.

evening- My wrist still hurts, so I did the same type of workout with lighter weights and a faster pace. It is as if I am doing a HIIT type of lifting. I am sweating my ass off and breathing like my lungs are going to explode. That is one of the reasons I don't feel so bad about missing cardio in the mornings because I am making up for it at night.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 11 2006, 10:40 PM

Day 19: Saturday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing, slept in on purpose.

evening- My right wrist still hurts, so I didn't do any weights today. Oddly, my left elbow was hurting today too. I did however do a lot of walking and carrying things in the mall today while shopping for Valentines' Day gifts. I couldn't let the pain stop me from getting gifts, because that would have brought even more pain. LOL While shopping, I pretty much had a sweat going the entre time. There were times I had to wipe the sweat off my forehead. I have a tendency to race walk all over the place, and carrying an extra 20ish pounds for that length of time will definitely work up a sweat. I was hungry and tired as heck when I finally got home.

Posted by: italionstallionl Feb 12 2006, 11:25 AM

I always speed walk around no matter where I am, I figure there is no need to be there longer than you need to be.

Would you say that the way you look now correlates to how much weight you've lost, or does it look like you've lost more weight than the scale says?

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 12 2006, 11:48 PM

Day 20:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- nothing.

Notes: Today is Sunday, my official off day.

Week ending data and results:

WT: 222.0, basically the same as last week.
BF%: Measurements are still all over the place so I am going off of the mirror. It does look like I have lost some BF in places even though the scale doesn't show it. I could be transferring the weight. My pants seem to b fitting looser in the waist, but not in the legs. I suppose that is because I am attacking legs a little more now that my knee is getting stronger and my legs are starting to build back up.

Note: I figured that I would have lost at least a little more considering I was eating less. Just a note, since my Mrs is doing the same diet, she hasn't lost that much either and she is doing more cardio than I am. She is even doing more HIIT training than me. I am lifting more than cardio, so this upcoming week, I will probably switch some cardio to nights instead of lifting. I figured it will be a good idea to let my wrist heal too.

Also, she wants to try a different diet to get different recipes so I talked her into waiting until when I am finished with this test before changing it. I don't want to change too many factors in the equation.

I think this supplement stack is something worthwhile but it may need to be ran at higher dosages or longer timeframes, at least for the dicana. Maybe my size has to do with it, but I haven't felt any weird sides in my throat, more than average warmth when working out, or muscle flatness that I have read from others.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 13 2006, 11:24 PM

Day 21:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- Lighter weights, fewer sets and exercises. I wound up doing cardio tonight like I was mentioning I would try. It was OK.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 14 2006, 11:07 PM

Day 22:

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- Valentines Day. Needless to say trying to tell the Mrs that I am going to pick time working out tonight over spending time with her wasn't an option.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 15 2006, 11:42 PM

Day 23: Wed

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- I worked late so I had to workout at home. Wrist still hurts so I went with lower weights again and a few more reps. It was actually pretty good. I didn't go at a fast past, but rather took my time. Also combined last nights workouts with tonights. That worked out pretty well too.

Note: This is starting the last week.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 17 2006, 12:04 AM

Day 24: Thurs

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- I worked late AGAIN so I had to workout at home. Wrist still hurts so I went with lower weights again and a few more reps. I didn't go at a fast past, but rather took my time. I am loving the change in the workout. The only problem with working out late is that I wanted to start doing some light cardio after training. With it being so late, I don't want to get my heart racing too much.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 17 2006, 11:47 PM

Day 25: Fri

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- I worked really late AGAIN and just got home. Too tired to work out so I am going to bed.

Note: I wouldn't mind running this stack longer or at heavier dosages to see how well it would work for extended timeframes.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 18 2006, 10:47 PM

Day 26: Sat

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- Combined last nights missed workout with tonights. I took my time and still having to use lighter weights. I also added an additional set to each exercise.

Posted by: dito Feb 19 2006, 01:30 PM

Keep in mind that Dicana is also slightly anabolic. So you can be adding lean mass while losing fat.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 19 2006, 03:53 PM

QUOTE (dito @ Feb 19 2006, 12:30 PM)

Keep in mind that Dicana is also slightly anabolic. So you can be adding lean mass while losing fat.

Really?? I didn't realize that or at least forgot it when doing the research before deciding on wanting to do the stack. I'll go back and read dome of the info on it. Do you happen to have a link to help a bro out.

If that is the case, that would explain some of the gains I am seeing.

Posted by: dito Feb 19 2006, 04:09 PM

Aye, it's good stuff. I'll see if I can get you some abstracts.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 19 2006, 04:33 PM

Cool thanks. I saw a write-up over at cnw. Also I noticed that the product suggestions says the suggested time frame is for 6weeks, then cycle off for 2-3wks. Can you elaborate why so if it isn't as strong a tricana?

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 19 2006, 10:31 PM

Day 27: Sunday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- nothing.

Notes: Today is Sunday, my official off day.

Week ending data and results:

WT: 221.0, -1
BF%: Same results as last week. The guy in the mirror is looking better. My % was 15.4%, not like that matters because it has been FUBAR'd from the beginning

.

Note: I didn't do more cardio like I thought, unless you count the light weights/more reps/slower pace type of workout being a form of cardio than what I was doing. Either way, I liked it no matter what. It was a good change and I had plenty of energy to do it.

My thoughts on the stack are still the same. There may be repartioning going on since the changes in weight hasn't happened, but there is a visual difference. Still no sides to report.

Posted by: dito Feb 20 2006, 02:17 PM

Increased T3 leads to increase in protein due to accelerated turnover. There
are dozens of studies on this and quite a few threads on Avant. I'd find them for you but the search at avant is acting up again.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 20 2006, 05:42 PM

QUOTE (dito @ Feb 20 2006, 01:17 PM)

That is why I was thinking the repartioning was happening. So if I increase my protein intake, I am assuming it will increase anabolism.

Thanks for the avant lead. I will search over there too.

Posted by: italionstallionl Feb 20 2006, 09:38 PM

QUOTE (GuardDog @ Feb 20 2006, 05:42 PM)

QUOTE (dito @ Feb 20 2006, 01:17 PM)

That is why I was thinking the repartioning was happening. So if I increase my protein intake, I am assuming it will increase anabolism.

Thanks for the avant lead. I will search over there too.

I would say yes about that, but then again, I would imagine that the increase in protein synthesis is only so much, so adding more protein wont necessarily equate to more anabolism. Its hard to say.....damn, i dunno

i think part of my brain just exploded

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 20 2006, 10:04 PM

yeah, I wasn't thinking about maxing out on steaks or anything, but rather increase a protein drink or bcaa spoonful or two.

Day 28: Mon

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- Worked out at home and did power aerobics/conditioning tonight. Its basically step aerobics with power lunges, squats jumps, and other explosive moves. I also combine it with different types of MA moves. By the time your finished, you can't hardly move, especially your legs. I know I am going to be hurting in the morning because it has been a while since I did it.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 22 2006, 01:53 PM

Posting for last night since I forgot

Day 29: Tuesday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- Combined Mondays wieght workout with tonight and did some light cardio afterwards. I think the Stizm keeps me focused to continue.

Note: I am noticing a bit more definition in my upper body. It looks like I have a few more days left of product testing even though I measured it out for 30 days. I am not sure how that happened. I either messed up on some days taking the dosages, or they put more product in there than what it says on the bottle. I could see messing up one or two tablets thinking I took them when I didn't, but not for that extra amount, which leads me to believe there were more in the bottle. I hate it when that happens.

Posted by: italionstallionl Feb 22 2006, 05:51 PM

Hahaha, either way it seems to have worked out well that you have a little extra. Glad you are seeing some results, keep up the hard work

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 23 2006, 12:30 AM

Yeap, lucky me. Too bad the bank doesn't make contributions like that.

Day 30: Wednesday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing, saved the cardio for nighttime.

evening- Combined some of the normal tuesdays workout with tonights. Also did an extra 20 mins on the treadmill. I wasn't tired and could have done more. My wrists really pisses me off though since it is keeping me from going heavy on some exercises. I also got my squats back up since my surgery. I had plenty of extra to go but without a spotter, I don't want to push it too much. Although I will probably try more the next time by adding 50lbs or so. LOL I feel like I am still favoring my hurt knee a little and letting my good leg do most of the work.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 24 2006, 01:19 PM

Posting for last night

Day 31: Thursday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing.

evening- nothing, got tied up with things at home and ran out of time to squeeze it in. No worries, my legs were F'n killing me anyways. LOL

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 25 2006, 12:27 AM

Day 32: Friday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- cardio.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 26 2006, 10:13 AM

Posting for Saturday

Day 33: Saturday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- nothing.

Note: Just didn't feel like working out today. I actually slept most of the afternoon since it was raining all day.

Posted by: GuardDog Feb 26 2006, 11:17 AM

End of Log. Final results.

Day 34: Sunday

Dosages: normal.

Workouts:

morning- nothing

evening- nothing

Notes: Today is Sunday, my official off day.

Week ending data and results:

WT: 222.8, +.8 basically stayed the same to me.
BF%: took three different measurements with the average being 13.3

Final Log statistics:

Beginning:
Body WT: 223
BF%: I guess about 20%.....
Body Fat WT: 223 x .20 = 44.6
LBM: 178.4

Ending:
Body WT: 222.8
BF%: 13.3
Body Fat WT: 222.8 x .133 = 29.6
LBM: 193.2

Differences:
Body WT: - 1/2 lb
BF%: -6.7
Body Fat WT: -15
LBM: +14.8

Types of Workouts:
mornings: not a lot
evenings: most
cardio: not a lot, but did increase from what I normally do via different types of workouts and increase of daily activity.
weight training: Most. At one point I changed from heavy weights to lighter weights with an increase in speed due to a wrist injury and time. It provided more cardio since I missed morning workouts.

OK, this is what the data said. However, I stated earlier that I felt I probably didn't take my beginning BF% correctly, even though it seemed like it was correct. Therefore, I will let you make a judgement call on what you think about the results, although I find it very very difficult to believe I gained 14.8 lbs of LBM while cutting. I do think that I have toned up quite a bit and did see points where my body seemed tighter and more defined. Now what I was hoping for was that my waist size would get cut to shreds... LOL. Don't we all wish that!

Realistically, I can't say that the supps didn't do what I wanted since I know that cutting up is diet and training related. I was hoping that they would give me an extra bonus. Overall, I think they did. I did get some nice comments throughout the testing phase from various people on my overall changes.

According to my beginning statement and theory, I said I gain muscle easily, difficult to loose weight, and based off of the diet and training only I was doing, I should loose 8-10 lbs and with taking the boost, I hoped to loose 20 lbs. I know that I was exagerrating a tad bit, but if your not pushing your goals out of reach a little, you won't work harder for it. Since I didn't loose the 8-10 lbs I thought I should alone, then I can't hold the stacks to any higher level.

I think these supps should be great for someone with a low bf% already and wanting to tighten up a little more. I don't think that these are for people wanting to loose a lot of bodyfat. Diet and training regiments will never be replaced for making that happen. Even though I believe I was eating below maintanence and following a good routine, I believe I obviously wasn't pushing hard enough in the cardio area.

Overall thoughts:
Dicana: Good for people with low BF% wanting to tighten/tone up. I would buy it.
Stizm: Great product for providing focus and energy when needed. I would buy it.

Finally, I want to thank Thermolife with the ability to test this product honestly and fairly. Not once did I get any PM's to talk better about the product, not to say certain things, or to hype it up in any way to give false information to help the product sell. The reps at ThermoLife are top notch with help and advise during this testing. If I get the chance to test out more of their products, I would be glad to assist in any way possible.

Regards,
GuardDog