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Posted: Jan 25 2006, 12:11 AM
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I just received the Dicana/Stizm product last night and started it today. I will review it for 30 days or until the bottles run out. I calculated the basic layout for 30 days, but might increase the dosage if needed.

I am using Stizm as a wakeup/pre-workout boost, while using the Dicana as a metabolic regulator. My overall goal is to loose BF%.

Basic product usage layout:
morning - upon waking/pre cardio
1- Dicana
1- Stizm

afternoon
1- Dicana

night - pre weightraining
1- Dicana
2- Stizm

Additional supps:
PWO shake (1 scoop of On's Whey, 3gms of BN CEE, 1 scoop of gatorade mix)
Milk thistle
Multivitamin
Glucosamine/MSM/Chrondontrin
note: I am worried about Dicana making me appear flattened and not getting good pumps, so I have standby supps just in case it is needed. They are basically additional BCAA, ALCAR, Taurine, etc.... We will see how it goes.

Diet:
I am following a diet the Mrs has us on from E-Diets.com . It is called Eating For Life by Bill Phillips. It is the same as his Body for Life Program . Here is a link to it iodf you want to check it out: http://www.ediets.com/billphillips/diet/ . It is a basic 6 meals a day, with one cheat day on Sunday. I am using her statics so the calorie consumption is about 1200-1300 per day. With the PWO protein drinks and a little extra healthy snacking, I get up to 2000 cals a day max. The really cool part of using ediets is it lays out all your meals for each day, each week, and even gives you a shopping list of all the items you will need. It doesn't get any simplier. I believe most everone is familiar with BFL diet plans, but here is a example of todays mealplan to give you an idea so I don't have to post it every day:

Monday - January 23
Breakfast - Fortified Hot Oat Bran Cereal with milk, 1/4 cup nonfat, skim milk

Midmeal #1 - Creamy Crab Dip with carrots and bread sticks, 4 baby carrots, 3 bread sticks

Lunch - Shrimp Salad, 1/2 small apple

Midmeal #2 -Cottage cheese and fruit

Dinner - Chicken-Mango Salad

Dessert - Very Berry Crepes


I can't post pictures due to work, so I hope you guys understand. However, here are the starting stats:
Body WT: 223
BF%: I guess about 20%.....
Body Fat WT: 223 x .20 = 44.6
LBM: 178.4
Other stats in sig.

Yes I know I have gained a lot of gut from the last set of bulks I have done. Add on top of that I hate cardio and sit behind a desk all day. Also basically for the last year I have had knee problems that kept me out of doing cardio. I have recovered from surgery and am now getting back to cardio. I easily pack on muscle, so obviously loosing fat is the hard part, which is why I wanted to test this stack. If it works, I will know it quickly.

My goal is to get down to around 200. So that is basically to loose 20lbs or 10% bodyfat. If I did an average of cardio and diet, then I could easily loose 2-3 pounds per week, giving me 8-12lbs for the 30 days. Since I am adding on these supps ontop of the cardio, then I expect for the results to be better. I figured an additional 8 lbs or 1-2 lbs per week isn't too much to ask. I also don't want to cut into loosing a lot of muscle, so I am going to watch it carefully. I will update the stats calculations every Sunday morning instead of everyday. Doing it everyday drives me crazy since weight flunctuates too much between water intake and so on. I can get better, more realistic readings after a week. I really think taking it everyday is a waste of time.


My workout routine:
cardio - Mornings as much as possible Mon-Sat. Roughly 20 mins. Exercise routines will vary daily to consist of one of the following: step aerobics, treadmill running, indoor cycling, and of course kickboxing on the heavy bag. I will mix it up depending on how I am feeling in the morning. I will also do abs and some leg extensions/hamstring curls in the morning for knee rehab purposes on top of cardio to make it a 30 min morning workout.

weight training- Nights Mon-Sat 30-40 mins of asskicking compound exercises. I was thinking of changing this up but will hold out a little while until I can see what the supps are doing.
Mon/Thu - chest/back
Tue/Fri - shoulders/bis
Wed/Sat - legs/tris


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Today:
Morning - Supps went fine. I didn't need my morning coffee to get awake at 5 am. I assume it is the Stizm. I never felt jittery. Cardio was reebox step aerobics.
Afternoon- didn't feel anything in particular
Night - Workout was great. However, I don't know if it was the 2 caps of Stizms or the fact I was pissed off by the end of the day from co-workers. I normally let them fuel my fire in ripping iron apart. I will try to watch it in the future.

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Posted: Jan 25 2006, 11:19 AM
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Looks good GD, good luck

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Posted: Jan 25 2006, 07:49 PM
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Today:
Took normal supps this morning. Energy for working out was great. Still didn't need coffee. My stomach was a little upset this morning before working out. I don't know if this is supp related or not since it hasn't happened before. I will note it over the next couple of mornings to see. However, I doubt it is because I didn't exeperience any problems when I took them later in the day.

Note: I was really busy at work this afternoon and forgot to take the Dicana at lunchtime. I took my normal preworkout supps and then tooks the missed Dicana when I got home tonight. Therefore, I still took the normal amount but at different times today. I don't think timing really matters on this like something would if I was maintaining elevated blood levels, so I am not too worried about it. The bottle doesn't say to keep the dosages evenly spaced apart.

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Day 3:

Took morning supps as normal. My stomach wasn't bothering me that much, but still a little messed up. I don't think it is anything to worry about. It could be my body adjusting to the new energy stimulants. The morning cardio was step aerobics again. I was going to run on the treadmill, but it aggrevates me since it is old and worn out. I was then going to do kickboxing, but I just decided to do it another day.

Noon supps as normal. No problems.


Evening supps before working out was taken as normal. However, I got called to a meeting before I could work out so I had to work out when I got home. Everyone in the meeting thought I was really excited about the meeting once the stizms kicked in. LOL The workout went OK since it was a couple of hours later. Besides, I am a little sore from working out I think. I normally don't get too much DOMS, so maybe it is because I was really pushing shoulders yesterday.

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Posted: Jan 26 2006, 10:39 PM
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I was taking 4 a day, but GD I'd like to know if you start to feel any neck soreness around the end of week 2 of the Dicana.

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QUOTE (Btrice @ Jan 26 2006, 09:39 PM)
I was taking 4 a day, but GD I'd like to know if you start to feel any neck soreness around the end of week 2 of the Dicana.

Will do.

I did notice a weird neck stiffness yesterday, but I thought it was from staring at my computer monitors all day.

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Day 4:
Product dosages and timings were normal.

Morning workout was fine.

I was feeling like I was dragging ass all day and had to drink a couple cups of coffee today for a pickme up. Also had to take a couple of aspirin to fight the soreness I have been developing so I went a little easy on tonights workout. I guess I am pushing it harder than normal to get worn down like this.



Oh yeah, I forgot to mention in the beginning post that I drink a couple cups of green tea throughout the day normally instead of drinking coffee.


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Day 5:

Dosages as normal.

I woke up late this morning since I was really tired and wanted to sleep. Finally got up at 8am. No morning cardio. I waited until tonight to workout. For my workout, I went walking around the neighborhood to get some fresh air. It was more like race walking to get the heartrate up.

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QUOTE (GuardDog @ Jan 25 2006, 01:11 AM)
I was thinking of changing this up but will hold out a little while until I can see what the supps are doing.
Mon/Thu - chest/back
Tue/Fri - shoulders/bis
Wed/Sat - legs/tris




I agree about changing your routine around. But it’s defiantly is a good idea to hold out for a little while.

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Thanks Slayer.

Day 6:
Body WT: 221, -2
BF%: Not sure, my measurements came in way off. I will take them next week.

Sunday- day off of training and dieting. It is the one day that I can eat what I want. However, I still eat clean, just more of it.

Note: I would have thought I would have lost more than that considering I am taking supps. Maybe the supps take a while to kick in? From this, it doesn't seem like I will get below 210 once the 4 weeks is up. I hope it picks up more. I could add in more cardio and less weight training if needed. I am pretty wore out from this past week of working out. Maybe I will go lighter on the weights, but keep the same routine. It will allow me to speed up the weight training section so I can add in cardio at night too.

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Day 7:

dosages as normal.

workout:
Morning- None. I had a appt at 0830 this morning and I woke up late.

Evening- I did my normal weight training but with a little lighter weight. For some reason, I just wasn't feeling the urge to push the limit tonight. It was still a good workout though. I also knew I was going to make up for my missed cardio this morning after my lifting session, so I was holding back purposely to have energy afterwards. The cardio session was a 10 mintues of race walking on the treadmill and 10 minutes on the bike. Overall, it was the same as my normal 20 minutes of cardio. It felt pretty good.

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Day 8:

Dosages as normal.

Workouts:
Morning- None, had an early meeting again.

Evening- I actually took the supps about 10 mins before working out since I was running late due to work idiots. So I don't know if it was the supps or people pissing me off at work again, but I had a great workout. I only had about 30ish minutes to really workout so I thought I was going to have to go light to get everything in on time. I think with the mix of rage and supps, it fueled my fire to sling some iron around and I didn't go light. I actually finished a little earlier than expected and got on the treadmill for a few minutes to walk down my heartrate. The crazy thing was that I felt like I could push more lead around but I didn't want to overdo it, so I held back and decided to stop. I was already sweating up a storm.



Does anyone know if I should be taking the dicana all at once or split them up like I have been doing? OR if I should be taking it right before bedtime. I have kind of been wondering about it to make sure I am dosing it correctly.

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Day 9:

Dosages: normal. I am still wondering if I am taking the dicana correctly.



Workouts:

morning- Great morning cardio workout. Plenty of energy.

evening- Another crazy day at work. I had to work over so I just worked out here at home which was 4 hours after taking the supps. I didn't plan on it being so far away from the time I took the supps to the time I worked out. However, I am still getting plenty of energy from the Stizm. Even having to workout later, it was a great grueling workout. I had an abundance of energy to do the whole thing. I would have thought I would have been tired working out so late. So that is a good sign. I was probably letting my anger at work fuel my workout a little too.

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Sorry about missing the last post. Split them up like you are, it is best if you can take the dicana on an empty stomach, and before bed is totally fine.

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QUOTE (italionstallionl @ Feb 1 2006, 11:41 PM)
Sorry about missing the last post.  Split them up like you are, it is best if you can take the dicana on an empty stomach, and before bed is totally fine.

Cool thanks. I have been taking them on an empty stomach pretty much. The lunch time pill is the closest time when I eat something. Do you know how long it takes the pill to break down and absorb into the system? That way I can time my lunch meal better. I want to make sure I get the most out of it for it's effectivness.

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Day 10:

Dosages: normal.



Workouts:

morning- Great morning cardio workout. Plenty of energy.

evening- Went a little light on the weights tonight to do more reps in the 10-12 range. It was pretty interesting. I might do that a little more often. Overall the energy was pretty good.


Just wondering, but am I supposed to be feeling anything from the Dicana like some thermo products or is it one of the supps that works without noticable signs. The reason I ask that is because I don't feel anything and wonder if I should be upping the dose for my size. They only problem with upping the dose is that I will run out more quickly.

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