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 human body CAN'T digest more than 30g protein/hour, true / false ?? |  |
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 everyone has a diff. protein intake, but body can only metab. 20 grams per hour. protein is the amino acid that aids in muscle repair. what many ppl do not realize is that, like carbs, protein can also be coverted into gluclose. if unused, it will be stored in adipose tissue as fat. large amts of protein also increase acid levels in kidneys, higher than average. if prolonged and kidneys cannot filter out acid levels, kidney stones maybe formed. some ppl swear by the calucated method of protein ( 1 gr of protein X 1 lb of body weight) and others do not..i am one of them.........i never monitored my protein or carb intake. i try to eat several well balanced meal daily and still see nice muscle growth. 
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| QUOTE (franul@ @ May 29 2004, 11:09 AM) | Diana,
what about cutting cycle? how should i deal with my protein intake? |
hey franul, as for protein shake intake, i really stopped drinking them. im not against protein shakes. but think about it realistically....protein shakes in anicent times Gladiators and ancient Greek athletes did not exit , athletes were fed solid food for their training. i have seen very promising muscle growth by sticking w/ regular food instead. liquid protein enters the blood system more speedily and replenishes the body faster, but solid food goes through the stomach to be metabolized/broken down...in this way the food stays in your system longer and the energy stays w/ you for a few hours longer than liquid protein. shakes are great if your on the run, and cant afford to eat anything after your wkout. i've had many diff brand names that gave me horrible side effects too. many shakes contain more hormones and chemicals then what we need. as a woman, i dont need anymore hormones than what nature already gave me...lol im not a believer of the 1gr of protein X 1 lbs . i simiply eat as many well balanced meals as i can eat throughout the day. i do carry around those small cans of tuna (in water) w/ the pop off lids. they're quick and easy to eat when you're on the go. they contain about 20 grams of protein per can. a serving portion of protein and carbs contain enough vitamins and minerals and other nutrients that your body needs. eating small amts this way daily feeds your body w/ the right amt of stuff to keep it going. 
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I don't agree with you about the body only digesting 20 grams per hour. Lets just agree to dis-agree on that though. I don't want this to become one of those long played out threads with everyone just "flaming" each other like you see at avant. I do agree with you though about people putting to much emphasis on protein. A lot of people don't realize, like you said that too much protein will also turn to fat. I don't think you need 1 gram of protein per pound of bodyweight...Some idiots even think you should have 2 grams per pound of bodyweight. That is just ridiculous. Maybe 1 gram per pound of Lean Body Mass....This is all very debatable....
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| QUOTE (lovetoeat @ May 29 2004, 01:05 PM) |
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What are you basing this number on? |
if you rely on the protein formula, ( 1-2 grams of protein per pound of weight) then your protein intake differs from person to person.
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| QUOTE (victory @ May 29 2004, 03:03 PM) | | And how many of these ancient gladiators and Greek athletes had 18+ inch arms and 29+ inch thighs at under 8% bodyfat? |
victory, funny ! but you missed the point. we're not talking about bodily measurements or % of body fat. reread the post again. 
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I have tried the 1 gram to 2 gram of protein per body weight and i have tried less than that. From my experience, i have had greater gains with less protein. i currently 6'5 and I weigh 235 lbs. I only consume around 160 to 180 grams of protein a day over 7 meals. some of my friends that consume much more protein than i, have experienced kidney stones. did the extra protein cause this? could be. the doctors said more than likely that was the reason but as we all know, doctors dont know everything. i'm in no way an expert ,im just going by what i have researched and from my own experience. if you feel the protein formula works for you, i say go for it. We can sit back and tell you how to do this and how to do that but bottom line you have to experiment for yourself. we are here to just give you some input from our experiences. you have to decide what you get from each of our comments and how you apply those ideas to your own life. LOL didnt mean to get all philosophical Anyways, Good luck with your training
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| QUOTE (William McAlpin @ May 30 2004, 04:37 PM) | I have tried the 1 gram to 2 gram of protein per body weight and i have tried less than that.
bottom line you have to experiment for yourself. we are here to just give you some input from our experiences. you have to decide what you get from each of our comments and how you apply those ideas to your own life.
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bravo william, i believe you hit the bull's eye ! what works for one, may not always wk for another.
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| QUOTE (Diana28913 @ May 29 2004, 08:24 PM) | | QUOTE (Steven Tecson @ May 29 2004, 06:39 PM) | | I'd like to know where you pulled up this magic number of 20g/hour. |
others say its 60 grams every 2 hours, while other still say differently. if you disagree w/ the number i stated, then correct it, and back it up w/ your added info.
~have a great day
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The point is, there is no way of figuring a general # of protein for everyone, that's why I asked where your number came from. If this is just some random number you've pulled out of thin air, fine, state that is the case, if not please "back up" your recommendation.
Health is not the absence of symptoms.
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| QUOTE (lovetoeat @ May 30 2004, 06:33 PM) |
The point is, there is no way of figuring a general # of protein for everyone, that's why I asked where your number came from. If this is just some random number you've pulled out of thin air, fine, state that is the case, if not please "back up" your recommendation. |
is anyone playing Russian Roulette here? lolol, and no recommendations are given only my input and thats it.  the body can metab. 20grams worth, and others say diff. (as i posted) and are entitled to disagree all they want. liquid isolated whey protein greater than 20grams are more absorable, than some other forms of protein. as a general guideline, the body in general does have values meaning, what has become the acceptable amt and what limitations it can/cant handle . but these values also diff from person to person. here i'll back this up for you: acceptable blood pressure is measured at 120/80 mmHg. not all ppl have this measurement, its only a guideline, not written in stone. so, if 20 grams is given as a guideline for being metabo. that doesnt mean its number is written in stone either. only an a value that is considered to being the norm. lol ~have a blessed day ! 
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| QUOTE (lovetoeat @ May 30 2004, 06:33 PM) | | QUOTE (Diana28913 @ May 29 2004, 08:24 PM) | | QUOTE (Steven Tecson @ May 29 2004, 06:39 PM) | | I'd like to know where you pulled up this magic number of 20g/hour. |
others say its 60 grams every 2 hours, while other still say differently. if you disagree w/ the number i stated, then correct it, and back it up w/ your added info.
~have a great day
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The point is, there is no way of figuring a general # of protein for everyone, that's why I asked where your number came from. If this is just some random number you've pulled out of thin air, fine, state that is the case, if not please "back up" your recommendation. |
I don't think there has ever been any evidence to show how much protein a person can digest in a meal or each hour. If someone knows of some references then maybe you can fill me in.
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| QUOTE (Diana28913 @ May 29 2004, 10:28 AM) | large amts of protein also increase acid levels in kidneys, higher than average. if prolonged and kidneys cannot filter out acid levels, kidney stones maybe formed.
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On average, if you're kidneys are functioning properly, you should not have any problems with excess protein intake.
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