Controlled Labs - GlycerGrow™ writeup |
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| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 1 2006, 06:27 PM |
| Controlled Labs Elements: GlycerGrow™ Cell Burst Formula 1000 Grams (2.2 Pounds) Powder Our price: $54.99 (MSRP) ![]() ![]() Key Attributes: - Intracellular nutrient / electrolyte delivery - Cell Volumization - Vascularity - Growth - Recovery - Intensity - Improve thermoregulation and endurance GlycerGrow™ is the most advanced standalone cell volumization breakthrough ever to reach the market. GlycerGrow™ combines a proprietary and synergistic blend of pharmaceutical grade ingredients to increase cell volume, aid the osmotic effects of creatine, and enhance the natural anabolic responses of weightlifting. When combined with a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a solid workout protocol, this product helps give the user increased gains in size, strength and vascularity. During a cutting (calorie deficit/fat loss) phase, GlycerGrow™ can be stacked with Red Acid™ and Green Bulge™ to keep workout intensity levels high. GlycerGrow™ may also help minimize cramping. As an added bonus, GlycerGrow™ appears to have little impact on insulin and blood sugar levels. During a bulking (calorie surplus) phase, GlycerGrow™ can be stacked with Green Bulge™ and White Blood™ for extreme pumps and to optimize your lean gains. GlycerGrow™ may also enhance your extreme stretching protocol. During a bodybuilding or fitness-related contest preparation phase, GlycerGrow™ can be used to improve vascularity as well as maintain both workout intensity and electrolyte balance, which may help you achieve the muscle hardness, fullness, and density needed to win. During endurance training, GlycerGrow™ may improve hydration and stamina. During power-lifting training, GlycerGrow™ may improve explosiveness, recovery, and conditioning, helping to avoid the symptoms of over-training. What exactly is Glycerol MonoStearate? Glycerol occurs naturally in the body. When it is ingested as a supplement, it is absorbed and increases the concentration of the fluid in the blood and tissues. The concentration of these fluids is held constant by the body, so water consumed with glycerol is not excreted until the extra glycerol is either removed by the kidneys or broken down by the body. In laymen's terms, taking glycerol in supplemental form quickly improves hydration and the absorption of other supplements that are taken with it. The end result is faster delivery of nutrients when and where you need them the most and the prolonged "pump effect" during your workouts. Our Glycerol is esterified with stearic acid to form Glycerol MonoStearate. Glycerol MonoStearate is a colorless, odorless and sweet-tasting flaky powder that is hygroscopic (it absorbs water from the air, so keep this tightly closed at all times). Why are there calories and fat in GlycerGrow™ whereas other glycerol (or Glycerol MonoStearate) products do not mention calories or fat on their labels? Good question. As far as the FDA is concerned, glycerol is a carbohydrate and stearic acid is a saturated fatty acid. Therefore, Glycerol MonoStearate has both fat and carbohydrates in it, which both result in calories. But you have heard that saturated fat is bad for your cholesterol? True, in most cases, but not with stearic acid. Stearic acid is one of the only saturated fatty acids that actually have a neutral or cholesterol-lowering effect on serum cholesterol levels in human studies. Initial (First Serving) Instructions: To assess your individual tolerance, combine 1-2 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it about 30 minutes before your workout. Shake well before drinking (powder DOES NOT dissolve well in liquid). Directions For Usage: Combine 1 - 4 Scoops of GlycerGrow™ with at least 32oz of water, juice, or sport/electrolyte drink, and consume it over an extended period of time (pre-workout, during your workout, and post-workout). Shake well before drinking (powder does not dissolve well in liquid). For best results, GlycerGrow™ should be used in combination with Controlled Labs’ Green Bulge™, at least 1-2 gallons of water per day, a high protein/moderate carbohydrate diet, and a hypertrophy/volume training workout protocol. Warnings: Consuming this product on a completely empty stomach may cause nausea. Consuming this product while on a liquid diet may cause diarrhea. Consuming this product without a sufficient water intake may cause dehydration. This product has been banned by various sporting organizations, including the NCAA. You should not take this product if you have any prior medical condition, including diabetes or high blood pressure. Consult your doctor before using this product. REFERENCES 1) Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of serum glycerol in patients with brain edema: comparison of oral and intravenous administration. Acta Neurochir Suppl (Wien). 1994;60:550-1. 2) The effect of glycerol and desmopressin on exercise performance and hydration in triathletes. Med Sci Sports Exerc. 1998; 30:1263-1269. 3) Pre-exercise glycerol hydration improves cycling endurance time. Int J Sports Med. 1996; 17:27-33. 4) Biochemistry, pharmacokinetics and clinical and practical applications. Sports Med. 1998; 26:145-167. 5) Hyperhydrating with glycerol: implications for athletic performance. J Am Diet Assoc. 1999; 99:207-212. 6) Glycerol hyperhydration: hormonal, renal, and vascular fluid responses. Freund, B.J., Montain, S.J., Young, A.J., Sawka, M.N., DeLuca, J.P., Pandolf, K.B., Valeri, C.R. (1995). Journal of Applied Physiology, 79, 2069-2077 7) Monsma, C.C.; Ney, D.M. Interrelationship of Stearic Acid content and triacylglycerol composition of lard, beef tallow and cocoa butter in rats. Lipids 28(6):539-547; 1993. |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 1 2006, 06:29 PM |
| Cell Volumization... the ultimate supplement Please Read it completely: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329 Complete Glycerine / Glycerol information thread Please Read it completely: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581 Electrolytes 101: Please Read it completely: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=658426 Taurine: Please Read it completely: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228656&postcount=7 Creatine Uptake and Sodium: Please Read it completely: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=414123 Potassium Information Please Read it completely: http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/pot.html United States and International Olympic Committee position on the use of glycerol The International Olympic Committee (IOC) added diuretics to its list of banned substances in 1986. This is fine, because the use of diuretics is detrimental to the maintenance of fluid homeostasis. Moreover, the use of diuretics is known to decrease the concentration of the urinary markers used to detect abuse of anabolic steroids or other banned ergogenic aids. Glycerol was formerly classified as a diuretic agent by the United States Olympic Committee (USOC), but not by the IOC (13). Such a classification by the USOC was based on the clinical use of glycerol as an osmotic tissue dehydrator. However, glycerol causes minimal diuresis, as only 20% of the intake is excreted by the kidney in urine during rest conditions (13). The remainder is metabolized in the liver and kidney tissue. Indeed, since 1997, the USOC has removed the ban on glycerol and has approved the use of glycerol ingestion by athletes in USOC-sanctioned events. NCAA Permissible/impermissible products: To assist the membership in accurately applying Bylaw 16.5.2.g, posted below are two lists of supplements: one permissible for the institution to provide, the other containing examples of impermissible ingredients. It is important to note that when reading the ingredient label of a supplement product, the listing of any impermissible ingredient makes the product impermissible. Further, when considering the product's protein content, the reader should consider the listing of the word "protein" and the number of grams included. If any other parts of a protein are listed separately, as in any amino acid or chain, it would not be permissible for an institution to provide such a supplement to its student-athletes. If the product lists a "proprietary protein" or "protein blend," then this is not protein from a whole food source, but rather a concoction created by the manufacturer, and in most instances includes impermissible supplement ingredients.. Permissible: * Vitamins and minerals * Energy bars * Calorie replacement drinks (for example, Ensure, Boost) * Electrolyte replacement drinks (for example, Gatorade, Powerade) Impermissible * Amino acids (including amino acid chelates) * Chondroitin* * Chrysin * CLA (Conjugated Linoleic Acid) * Creatine/compounds containing creatine * Garcinia Cambogia (Hydroxycitric Acid) * Ginkgo Biloba * Ginseng * Glucosamine* * Glutathione * Glycerol ** * Green tea * HMB (Hydroxy-methylbutyrate) * Melatonin * MSM (Methylsulfonyl Methane) * Protein powders * St. John's Wort * Tribulus * Weight-gainers * Yohimbe * It is permissible for an institution to provide glucosamine and/or condroitin to a student-athlete for medical purposes, provided such substances are provided by a licensed medical doctor to treat a specific, diagnosed medical condition (as opposed to prescribing them for preventive reasons). ** Glycerine or glycerol as a binding ingredient in a supplement product is permissible. |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 1 2006, 06:32 PM |
| "Unofficial" GlycerGrow™ FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) by pt@controlledlabs.com I've seen the "official" GlycerGrow™ write-up http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showpost.php?p=8228372&postcount=1... now when can I purchase it ? It should be available @ retailers by Jan 15th, 2006 Where can I purchase GlycerGrow™ and how much will it cost ? Internet retailers will have the best prices (around $30 to $35): http://www.bulknutrition.com/?manufacturers_id=165 What does GlycerGrow™ taste like ? GlycerGrow™ is a UNFLAVORED powder with a flaky texture and a neutral taste. This means that you can mix / customize GlycerGrow™ with one of the following: Gatorade Liquid Gatorade Powder Flavored BCAA Powder (such as MRM BCAA Lemonade) Orange Juice Fruit Punch Black Star Labs flavoring system Other favorite beverage Does GlycerGrow™ dissolve when I mix it ? No. GlycerGrow™ does NOT dissolve, so the texture takes some getting used to. Many people find that the easiest way to consume it is to simply put the powder in their mouth and chase it down with a large glass of their favorite beverage. How many servings per bottle ? 120 How many grams per scoop ? 2.77 How many scoops per serving ? 3 How many grams per serving ? 8.33 How many servings per workout ? 1 Serving... or 1 to 4 scoops Please refer to the Initial Dosing Instructions and directions for use instead of the Serving size. So... how many days will each bottle last ? It should easily last more than 120 days So... Should I only take GlycerGrow on workout days ? This is what I recommend.. yes Should I take GlycerGrow prior to cardio ? Results will vary, but yes cardio can be considered a "workout" so a cardio day is technically not a "off day" in my opinion. You may need to experiment with the dosage for cardio days Is GlycerGrow™ for men or women ? Both Is GlycerGrow™ for cutting or bulking ? Both Is GlycerGrow™ for strength gains or size gains ? Both Where can I learn more about Taurine ? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=180120 Where can I learn more about Glycerol / Glycerine ? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581 Is glycerine = glycerol ? Yes What is Hyperhydration / Cell Volumization ? Water constitutes 45–70% of body weight Adipose tissue is (approx) 10% water Muscle tissue is (approx) 75% water A person's total body water varies by body composition Muscle water and glycogen content parallel each other It's possible to increase the amount of fluid in the body by drinking extra water, but the kidneys remove most of it within an hour. That's where glycerol comes in. Adding glycerol to the water can prolong the period of hyperhydration for up to four hours. So what can cell volumization do for muscle growth ? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329 So what can cell volumization do for strength ? http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329 Does GlycerGrow™ replace proper nutrition and training ? No What happens when I stop using GlycerGrow™ ? Like most supplements, when you quit using it, you will notice a difference. This is why it's important that your nutrition and training are solid, because the cell volumization and osmotic effects of GlycerGrow™ only enhance a already solid routine. I'm on a carb-cycling diet... is GlycerGrow™ a good option for me ? GlycerGrow™ is a great option for carb-cyclers. If you are cutting and carb cycling, I also recommend Red Acid™ What "basic" / minimum supplements do you recommend while taking GlycerGrow™ ? A quality Multivitamin, such as NOW A.D.A.M Whey Protein (pre and post-workout) A creatine product such as Green Bulge (pre-workout) A inexpensive creatine product such as Creapure / CEE (post-workout) BCAA (Branched Chain Amino Acids) Pre-workout / During-Training (I recommend MRM BCAA 2.2lb) Fishoil At LEAST 1 to 2 gallons of water per day Besides the "basic" supplements listed above, what "other" ergogenics, compounds, or supplements do you recommend to maximize my results while on GlycerGrow™ ? Beta-Alanine (such as Bodyoctane) Nitric Oxide (pre-workout) such as White Blood I'm on medication, should I take GlycerGrow™ ? Ask your doctor before taking GlycerGrow™ I have a health condition, should I take GlycerGrow™ ? Ask your doctor before taking GlycerGrow™ Is it necessary to cycle GlycerGrow™ ? This depends on many variables, but if using it as a standalone, we generally recommend that you cycle off GlycerGrow™ every 6 to 12 weeks When starting GlycerGrow™, should I "taper" up the dosage to assess my tolerance to GlycerGrow™? Yes. This is a very good idea When cycling off of GlycerGrow™, should I "taper" down the dosage ? This is not required What are some good indications that I'm getting results with GlycerGrow™ ? Mirror / Appearance Measurements Bodyfat caliper Bodyweight I workout in the evening / before bedtime, is there anything I should know ? VERY good question. It's possible that you may experience frequent / urgent urination after your workout (this depends on many variables). This can be a problem if working out at night, so if this occurs, adjust GlycerGrow™ dosage as needed. Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Green Bulge™ ? Yes Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Blue Up™ (Stim Free) Yes Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Blue Up™ (Original) Yes Can I stack GlycerGrow™ with Red Acid™ (Original) Yes. Please see the special section below about Red Acid™ + GlycerGrow™ I heard that all of your products are "Real World" tested and 105% Guaranteed... how many "Real World" GlycerGrow™ testers do you have ? Over 20 public testers so far.. from the United States and Canada What are some possible side effects of GlycerGrow ? nausea, dizziness, headaches, or gastrointestinal disturbances Consuming this product without a sufficient water intake may cause dehydration Why is this a "unofficial" thread ? Because some of the information being discussed is for educational purposes only I've read this FAQ completely and all the links provided. I still have a question or concern.. what should I do ? Please E-Mail me: pt@controlledlabs.com and I'll get back to you as soon as possible |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 1 2006, 06:34 PM |
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| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 1 2006, 07:03 PM |
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| Posted by: Jake Varner Jan 1 2006, 07:05 PM |
| GlycerGrow looks like a promising product. I'm looking forward to product reviews that are taking place here. |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Jan 2 2006, 01:08 PM | ||
So would I get the same affects described in that threat fromg pure GMS (Glycerol Mono Stearate) |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 8 2006, 11:23 AM | ||||
Possibly Recommended reading: Cell Volumization: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=332329 The original Glycerine / Glycerol Thread: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=164581 Intramuscular Triglycerides as an Ergogenic Aid: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/issa108.htm Electrolytes 101: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=658426 SUPPLEMENTAL CREATINE (Methylgluanido-Acetic Acid) A in depth look: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/author22.htm Taurine: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=180120 |
| Posted by: mrmoose63 Jan 8 2006, 11:32 AM |
| How well would a glycerine supplement like this work on a low carb diet?.. I notice in the write up you mention a moderate carb diet to be optimal with this product... so just wondering if without the carbs it would still volumize? -Moose |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 8 2006, 12:04 PM | ||
Good question It will still work well on a low carb diet. For optimal results I do recommend following the label instructions. A TKD diet would be one option |
| Posted by: Pxboarder Jan 8 2006, 02:09 PM |
| hey pun12en12g why are the serving instructions diffrent for first dose i dont mean the size ,but the way you consume like first dose says 1-2 scoops 30 min before WO and then after that it says 2-4 over a extended period of time? |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 9 2006, 02:27 AM | ||
Very important question. It is absolutely CRITICAL that you ASSESS YOUR INITIAL TOLERANCE first, before using the supplement long term, that's why there are 2 seperate sections. We tried to make it as clear as possible and I hope that consumers do read the label, because I can't stress ENOUGH how IMPORTANT this is. I also recommend using it on workout days only. |
| Posted by: Pxboarder Jan 9 2006, 03:00 AM |
| sorry i was unclear. i ment why the first dose all at once 30 min before work out and then the next time drink it before, durring, and after the work out? it dosent make sense i get that the first dose should be lower to see how you react, just unclear about the way you take it all at once or over a 1hr period. |
| Posted by: maggie97358 Jan 9 2006, 05:14 AM |
| Hey Pu this is future_wrestler from over at bodybuilding.com When is this gonna be coming out? |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 9 2006, 07:55 AM | ||
Ok... just to clarify... the higher the dosage is, the more important it is to spread the dosage out over a extended period of time. You * can* do this with the initial serving if you want. |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 9 2006, 07:57 AM | ||
Hey how's it goin man ! ****** already has it (probably because they are East Coast ? ? ) in stock for $28.99 and Mike should have it in stock any day now (if he doesn't already.... it's not listed yet). Not sure what Mike will have it priced at... but this is VERY cost effective. |
| Posted by: Pxboarder Jan 9 2006, 11:43 AM |
| ok now its clear thanks pu |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 10 2006, 06:10 PM |
| Mike has it in stock now: http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=2367 |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Jan 10 2006, 06:20 PM |
| Wow, thats a great price...I may have to get some along with some pure GMS powder. Wow...Im still in awe over the price. So let me get this straight. For a regular day, I would take a scoop in my pre workout shake, one in some water during the workout, and one post? I dont think Ill be able to pass this up |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 12 2006, 01:10 PM | ||
After you have assessed your own tolerance... yes. And since it's so inexpensive, you can adjust that dosage as needed... as long as you also increase your water intake. Keep us updated ! Your feedback is very important to us ! |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Jan 12 2006, 06:33 PM |
| I get atleast a gallon a day. I shoot for two though. I can obviously increase it though if its not enough for me. Is any suggested on cardio days? |
| Posted by: LPStud Jan 12 2006, 09:16 PM |
| Hey pu12en12g, Any plans to let a couple people test out and review the new product? |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Jan 12 2006, 10:14 PM |
| I think theyve been selected already. |
| Posted by: LPStud Jan 12 2006, 10:18 PM | ||
Oops, I guess I missed that. I did some searching and saw that one person has started, anxious for the others to start to. |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 13 2006, 01:35 AM | ||
Results will vary (many variables) when taking GlycerGrow pre-cardio. You may find that the volumization is too intense. As always, take note of the possible side effects and make sure to keep yourself hydrated during cardio. Keep us updated ! |
| Posted by: Pxboarder Jan 13 2006, 12:57 PM |
| when my log is over i want to add old school ephedra back into some of my work outs can ephedra be mixed with glycergrow or is it like other NO products and will cancel each other out? px |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 13 2006, 10:48 PM | ||
Officially: I don't endorse or recommend herbal Ephedra Unofficially: GlycerGrow isn't a Nitric Oxide product and your scenario should be ok as long as you take proper precautions, such as staying hydrated and using both supplements responsibly, starting at a low dose of both. As always, be aware of all potential side effects, read warning labels completely, and have your doctor monitor your fatloss program. |
| Posted by: Pxboarder Jan 14 2006, 01:14 AM |
| i dont use it for weightloss i find it to be the most effictive at giving me strength and endurrence i only use 1 pill once a week for maybe 8 weeks i use the old school yellow swarm |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Jan 24 2006, 07:23 PM |
| Whats the GMS to Taurine ratio in the GlcerGrow Complex? |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Jan 24 2006, 08:30 PM |
| That scoops a half foot long. Thats crazy. Gonna have to trim it up |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 29 2006, 07:30 AM | ||
It's a proprietary ratio that is proving to be very effective... here is some of the initial feedback: waitlifter82: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=671710 MyTMouse: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=669826 Xeric: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=676347 Alka8: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=677452 Chitown72: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=676152 BigNorwegian: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=677911 Baptizer: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=682293 SkinnyFat: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=679133 Mick535: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=675862 AntiHero: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=679197 BrutalBeast73: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=677854 Nycste: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=671074 flokmania: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=672036 nc2315: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=671974 |
| Posted by: pu12en12g Jan 29 2006, 07:34 AM | ||
Yeah ! I love the long scoop... it kicks ass because it doesn't get lost in the container. |
| Posted by: Brad Cowin Feb 5 2006, 01:44 AM |
| Itd just be nice to know since I take taurine separatly, dont worry, Im not gonna try to make and sell my own brand of GlycerGrow. PM me maybe? |
| Posted by: dwm230000 Feb 5 2006, 01:59 AM | ||||
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| Posted by: Brad Cowin Feb 5 2006, 02:12 AM |
| Ahh. I see. I didnt even think about the calories and then doing the math and shit. Thanks a bunch. |
| Posted by: dwm230000 Feb 5 2006, 02:39 AM | ||
No problem. I am glad it helped. The label that is listed here currently is actually wrong as far as the calories, fat grams, etc. It will probably be changed soon. |