| QUOTE (TheDiesel @ Dec 23 2005, 03:57 PM) |
| lol. |
lol....
AX Sample Cycles |
1Fast400 Forums > Hormone/Prohormones |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 22 2005, 09:09 PM |
| The following Cycle plans are based on the feedback we received from Anabolic Xtreme Products. What worked, what didn’t. I have divided the cycles, depending on the number of previous AX hormonal cycles you have used. This cycles are not intended to be an obligation, they are only examples. Also, keep in mind that weight/previous Cycles and training all are VERY critical to determine which cycle fits you best. So I ask that you email me or any other Anabolic Xtreme rep if you need any assistance BEFORE beginning any of the following cycles. AX PHERA-PLEX: 1st Cycle Wk 1- Phera-Plex 10mg Wk 2- Phera-Plex 20mg Wk 3- Phera-Plex 30mg 2nd Cycle Wk 1- Phera-Plex 10 Wk 2- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 3- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 4- Phera-Plex 30 3nd Cycle Wk 1- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 2- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 3- Phera-Plex 30 Wk 4- Phera-Plex 40 AX PROSTANOZOL: 1st Cycle Wk 1- Prostanozol 75 Wk 2- Prostanozol 100 Wk 3- Prostanozol 150 Wk 4- Prostanozol 150 (optional) 2nd Cycle Wk 1- Prostanozol 100 Wk 2- Prostanozol 125 Wk 3- Prostanozol 150 Wk 4- Prostanozol 200 3rd Wk 1-Prostanozol l00 Wk 2-Prostanozol 150 Wk 3-Prostanozol 175 Wk 4-Prostanozol 200 AX ERGO MAX LMG: 1st Cycle Wk 1- Ergo Max LMG 10mg Wk 2- Ergo Max LMG 20mg Wk 3- Ergo Max LMG 20mg 2nd Cycle Wk 1- Ergo Max LMG 20mg Wk 2- Ergo Max LMG 20mg Wk 3- Ergo Max LMG 20mg 3rd Cycle Wk 1- Ergo Max LMG 20mg Wk 2- Ergo Max LMG 20mg Wk 3- Ergo Max LMG 30mg AX SUPERDROL: 1st Cycle Wk 1- Superdrol 10mg Wk 2- Superdrol 20mg Wk 3- Superdrol 20mg 2nd Cycle Wk 1- Superdrol 10mg Wk 2- Superdrol 20mg Wk 3- Superdrol 30mg 3rd Cycle Wk 1- Superdrol 20mg Wk 2- Superdrol 20mg Wk 3- Superdrol 30mg Other options..(Mix and Match): (The following cycles are Not recommended for 1st time, inexperienced AAS/PH/PS users) AX ERGO MAX LMG & AX PROSTANOZOL: Level 1 Wk 1- Ergo Max LMG 10mg / 50 Wk 2- Ergo Max LMG 20mg / 75 Wk 3- Ergo Max LMG 20mg / 75 Level 2 Wk 1- Ergo Max LMG 20mg Wk 2- Ergo Max LMG 20mg / Prostanozol 100 Wk 3- Ergo Max LMG 20mg / Prostanozol 150 Level 3 Wk 1- Ergo Max LMG 20mg / Prostanozol 100 Wk 2- Ergo Max LMG 20mg / Prostanozol 125 Wk 3- Ergo Max LMG 30mg / Prostanozol 150 AX SUPERDROL & AX PROSTANOZOL 1st Cycle Wk 1- Superdrol 10mg / Prostanozol 75mg Wk 2- Superdrol 20mg / Prostanozol 100mg Wk 3- Superdrol 20mg / Prostanozol 150mg 2nd Cycle Wk 1- Superdrol 10mg / Prostanozol 100mg Wk 2- Superdrol 20mg / Prostanozol 125mg Wk 3- Superdrol 20mg / Prostanozol 150mg 3rd cycle Wk 1- Superdrol 10mg / Prostanozol 100mg Wk 2- Superdrol 20mg / Prostanozol 100mg Wk 3- Superdrol 30mg / Prostanozol 150mg Advanced Cycles (Mix and Match): Level One Wk 1- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 2- Phera-Plex 30 Wk 3- Phera-Plex 20 / Superdrol 10mg Wk 4- Superdrol 20mg Wk 5- Superdrol 20mg Level Two Wk 1- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 2- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 3- Phera-Plex 30 Wk 4- Phera-Plex 20 / Superdrol 10mg Wk 5- Superdrol 20mg Wk 6- Superdrol 20mg Level Three Wk 1- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 2- Phera-Plex 20 Wk 3- Phera-Plex 30 Wk 4- Phera-Plex 30 / Superdrol 10mg / Prostanozol 100mg Wk 5- Superdrol 20mg / Prostanozol 100mg Wk 6- Superdrol 20mg / Prostanozol 125mg **Phera-Plex may be replaced with Ergo Max LMG -Every cycle requires that you research thoroughly -Every cycle requires PCT (Post Cycle Therapy) *Best of Luck to you and your cycle….now grow! |
| Posted by: gtapp Dec 23 2005, 01:36 AM |
| Great Post C-Los 21! Thank You! |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 23 2005, 02:05 AM | ||
Glad its helping...and thank you! Remember: If you have any questions about proper PCT and or any of these cycles, email me. I check my email constantly and have various "gadets"(articles,PDFs) that may help. |
| Posted by: msharpie Dec 23 2005, 01:55 PM |
| good read, im debating a pp/sd cycle, but going to do a pp solo cycle first. I liked sd, but i planned on 4wks, i think 3 weeks is going to be better for me(as lethargy set in hardcore at around 3 weeks). |
| Posted by: TheDiesel Dec 23 2005, 02:34 PM |
| Why are the phera-plex and ergomax cycles different? What exact drug pharmacology or simple chemical structure observations led to the different drug cycles? It seems rather arbitrary to me. Don't you think two 17a alkylated steroids stacked together would be a bad idea (phera/super)? Especially considering the androgenous nature of both of them, which would indicate higher liver toxicity. |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 23 2005, 03:51 PM | ||
"Why are the phera-plex and ergomax cycles different? "Comparing Emax and PP Phera is 100% the 5a isomer which is the more anabolic of the 5a, 5b. Emax is 5a,5b, and has 7:ratio of 2-ene - 3-ene. DMT(desoxy- methyl-testosterone) at a 7:2 ratio of 2-ene:3-ene with both a and b isomers. PP 2-ene is twice as anabolic and the a-isomer is stronger. PP is supposed to be pure 2-ene a-isomer. PP is stronger. "Don't you think two 17a alkylated steroids stacked together would be a bad idea (phera/super)? Especially considering the androgenous nature of both of them, which would indicate higher liver toxicity." Stacked is when the two compounds are taken concurrently. On a briding week, they are taken concurrently, but at reasonable dosages. 20mg pf PP + 10 mg SD is similar to 30mg of a methylated compound (only ~example). Now if you take 20mg of SD + 20 mg of PP then that changes everything. Makes it more hazerdous to you health(liver),def. not smart and very, very dangerous. Also take into consideration that SD is the stronger of the 3(ergo,PP and SD) and is set as an "advanced" cycle. If you need any futher assistance, let me know. |
| Posted by: TheDiesel Dec 23 2005, 03:57 PM |
| lol. |
| Posted by: ProfessorVince Dec 23 2005, 04:06 PM |
| I was wondering if you can rank these in order of it being anabolic and it being androgenic, or its ratios of them... |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 23 2005, 04:21 PM | ||
In terms of Anabolic Activity : Superdrol, Phera-Plex and last, but not least ErgoMax LMG. In terms of Androgenic Activity : Phera-Plex, Ergo Max LMG, Superdrol PP and Emax are very, very similar. |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 23 2005, 04:25 PM | ||
lol.... |
| Posted by: NikZ Dec 23 2005, 07:58 PM | ||||
don't worry about TheDiesel......he's the smartest guy in the world....you won't ever be right when disagreeing with him.  also, CLos, just noticed, no biggie, Emax/Prostanazol cycles, Level 3, week 2, Prostanazol "120mg/day"..just wanted to tell ya that was there. damn typos!  keep up the good work! very good info! |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 23 2005, 08:04 PM | ||
lol....yep(typos), Great catch! Thanks alot...fixed. |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 24 2005, 11:09 AM |
| I'm working on getting the "stickies" over on this forum....thank you for your patience. |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 26 2005, 02:04 PM | ||
They should be up this evening. |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 28 2005, 12:54 AM | ||||
And here they are..... "Superdrol for Dummies" http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=24306 "PCT- The hows and the whats" http://forums.bulknutrition.com/?showtopic=24307 ...now I won't have as many emails   |
| Posted by: smoothlove Dec 28 2005, 03:01 AM |
Stop pimpin......  Some of us know it..... Could get you in BIG BOOBOO copied and printed...... |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 28 2005, 03:06 AM | ||
No pymping here....have you heard of Stim-X? ...no seriously, I spent ALOT of time reseraching and reading many logs/reviews/feedback on AX products. Now that I am here and ready to share my info, I want to make sure members are aware of the situation(saves time and some effort and you don't risk the chance of reading unreliable info.). |
| Posted by: smoothlove Dec 28 2005, 03:18 AM |
| I thank you for the Idea.... But ya know I sorta told alot of people baout the place.... I a dont want any of them donin alot of those cycles. I love them. Some of these guys dont realy understand the payback. Sorry for being a bitch , But Ive ran a few in my day and I might have been better off not doing it at all. Im sure I would be.... |
| Posted by: NikZ Dec 28 2005, 10:18 PM | ||
dude what are you talking about??....... you are hard to understand........ some of the guys don't really understand YOU..... people come to this section to learn........... about the topic of the section...... what you call pimping....... i call INFORMING............  |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 28 2005, 10:52 PM | ||||
"what you call pimping....... i call INFORMING............" QUOTE OF THE MONTH! |
| Posted by: ADugan Dec 31 2005, 03:44 PM |
| why be d*cks these guys? carlos and krzna are trying to help everyone by sharing their knowledge on how to be safe and smart while taking phs'. you are appreciated by most guys and keep up the great post! |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Dec 31 2005, 05:00 PM | ||
Thank you VERY VERY much! Happy New Year to you ADugan! |
| Posted by: smoothlove Jan 1 2006, 11:27 PM | ||
Some of those stacks may fall short of safe. Butr hey sorry guys just my .02 Im droppin it |
| Posted by: NikZ Jan 2 2006, 12:45 AM | ||||
you don't have to "drop it" if you have an actual point (which i doubt), just speak like a respectful, civilized human being instead of being a dick. i just went back and looked thru all of the cycles, which one is dangerous?? mind you "dangerous" is subjective, but i'm assuming the people doing these cycles have done their research, are experienced and "know it all" so to speak about what they're doing. i don't see anything wrong with ANY of those cycles for someone who is not being immature. |
| Posted by: smoothlove Jan 2 2006, 01:08 AM |
| The "advanced cycles " would suggest that someone take a 17 meth for 6 weeks! And Im sure all these members "know" what they are doin Some of these cycles seem a little strong to me. But please run a few of them for us! And post honest logs for us to read. |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Jan 2 2006, 01:29 AM | ||
I just finished a VERY successful 6 week advanced cycle, but I am sure you think it is biased and dishonest. Just ask the many viewers and posters for feedback I am sure they will support my actions. |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Jan 8 2006, 12:32 AM | ||||
And blood work...will post it up soon. |
| Posted by: smoothlove Jan 8 2006, 02:59 AM | ||||||
Well, it wouldnt be unheard of that a rep of a company would post biased results of a product that they sold and profited from.  Or talk of an amazing stack of three of the products that they sold, that was totaly safe to use for prolonged periods of time. Im sure a few guys on here will run these cycles. Some of our more advanced members have had trouble runnin 4wks of SD alone. Even if these cycles are intolerable, the bottles will be sold none-the-less. Right? |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Jan 8 2006, 03:37 PM | ||||||||
Please get a life!...it's not worth it to waste your time with these meaningless post. FYI(you need to read)- I was on SD for THREE weeks. See I was right, you think I will post dishonest biased info.....sad. |
| Posted by: IKnowEverything Jan 8 2006, 08:54 PM |
| FIrst off....Thanks for everything you're doing Carlos. from one carlos to another. Youve pretty much filled the gaps i needed.. and this is the one thing thats missing....... CORTISOL SUPRESSION post cycle...its nowhere to be seen. when the scale istipped in favor of anabolism cortisol will rise. but then what about retain. the ingredients are an unkown... ive opted for remeron. anti ACTH and prolactin. im about to rnu a cycle and i plan on keeping all of it. but i wont be going into a anabolic phase. just androgenic with a layered cortisol and estrogen supression. |
| Posted by: Vincent77668 Jan 16 2006, 09:40 AM |
| C-los, thank you for the informative posts. Its very nice to get info from the people that work for AX. I have a question. I have on SD cycle under my belt which was finished in october. I recently ordered PP and was wondering if I would be ready for a 5 or 6 week PP/SD cycle?? Also how much did you gain on the 6 week PP/SD cycle compared to a solo of either of these?? Thank you for your feedback in advance. |
| Posted by: OldTimer Jan 16 2006, 10:17 AM | ||
A civilised question to help me understand better - I was unaware that androgens were more hepato-toxic than anabolics. What about 1,4Andro or Methyl Rage. Both very androgenic and lower toxicity? OT |
| Posted by: OldTimer Jan 17 2006, 02:38 AM |
| bump |
| Posted by: C-Los 21 Jan 17 2006, 09:35 PM | ||
Only you can determine if you are ready or not. Email me with your stats and experience/use and I will help you determine that. On my first cycle I gained 18lbs on SD. Those gains were not as stable as the 20lbs gained on my six week cycle. I have not lost my strength/LBM gains. Only a few lbs of water and glycogen. |