How effective are the use of pro-hormones for cutting?

Im planning on using 600mg 19-Nordiol & 1,4 Andro a day for 4 weeks and eating 12cals per lb of bodyweight.

-Will the above cycle be effective for cutting?
-Will i need to take ECA while on this cycle and how much cardio will i need to do?
-Im presuming that while on this cycle ill lose fat and gain lean muscle mass?

Any advice would be welcome!

A stronger androgen would be prefered, I would keep either the nordiol or the 1,4 (choose one) and add 1-T


ECA is never "needed"

Cardio? You should know that, no one can gauge wether or not you need it or how much. You shouldnt be using PH/PS if you dont know your body enough to gauge how much cardio.

Lose Fat, maybe, depends on diet. Gains muscle while losing fat? Highly unlikely.

Short of mega-dosing several different compounds, ProHormones are not powerful enough (re: do not convert at a high enough %) to allow an experienced lifter to gain LBM while losing fat when he (or she, I suppose) is hypocaloric. Steroids can, however I do not feel that at this time you would benefit significantly by looking into them (perhaps 1-Test, but no further).



Nonetheless, PHs while cutting are still useful. They bolster nitrogen retention, promote a positive leucine balance, down-regulate protein wasting, and are generally very anti-catabolic, allowing for my LBM retention when you diet...

I was going to recomend methyldienelone, but it seems as though you are a newbie (if not, pardon the assumption) to the PH game. THat being said, if your goals, and they sound like they are, are cutting and muscle retention, rather than adding bulk, then I would look into the previously mentioned 1-test as a base.... then possibly the additions of :

hydroxytest: many diff brands, vpx, 1fast400 powder, legalgear, etc....
4-OHN: I know vpx offers a cyp product (which I really liked I might ad), but at the time, not sure about what other companies offer this hormone as of yet

I also would never add eca to a PH stack, as for most, blood pressure will already be at least slightly raised above average