Yeah that helps me a lot. I am really satisfied with your response, specially you being a 1Fast400 rep.

if its shit then why sell it?

Yes I am a moderator at there Body Of Science message board but I am not a paid employee of the company and do not get any compensation, minus a free copy of Anabolics 2006.

Yes, X-factor does work and I think it is a good alternative anabolic for people to use if they want to. It offers a non-hormonal anabolic alternative to people that don't want to use hormonal anabolics.

Yes, you can argue that it is a little pricey, depending on what you consider to be pricey that is. I do feel it is a good possible supplement for certain people but it's not for everyone.

Dude, BN is in the busniness of making money, not selling only the products that are worthy.

Consumers should take it upon themselves to find out if a products is worth the $$ or not.

Sadly, at the end of the day this is a businses in which bills need to get paid. People have the right to make their own choices. I started out optimistic and used to be very selective in what I carried. Then as I grew, bills needed to get paid. I used to not carry muscletech believe it or not.

Um, you are more pro xfactor than anyone I've seen in quite some time, sorta odd. Anyway, I donated over 1000 dollars worth of Xfactor for a trail a long time ago. Considering the enormous amount of money that was needed to dose the way it was vs the results that were gotten, I call it crap.

It is simply a personal opinion. Also, I hate bill, that liar that owns the company. He used to talk about how great formestane was and how it was going to bury 6oxo into the ground. Patrick gets his 6oxo patent in the next few weeks. Bill claimed (and you can search it on bb.com to see it true) that he was going to do this grand study on formestane, which he never did. Bill has calmed down quite a bit, but back 2-3 years ago, he was a hot head that couldn't control himself. He called me a few times in the past screaming his brains out. His wife had to control him, it was quite funny. He is a disturbed man.

I responded that way bcuz of the kind of response that I got, just a straight "don't buy it". I do appreciate ur honesty and opinion though, thanks. Well I think I can now make up my mind from what was said in this thread after my previous post. Man this thread is getting hot!!

You are right, it is a personal opinion...I agree with that totally. And that is the exact reason in which I came in and tried to give some info. Your personal opinion is "don't buy it", and I respect that. Just because you don't like it though, doesn't mean everyone will not, because like I said, from what I have seen, most have. My opinion is that it worked, and I enjoyed it, or I would not be a rep for Molecular. Another reason is that I find Catherine and Bill to be very nice people, and I am very interested in learning more about arachidonic acid. You have your opinions, and I have mine. As I said, I mean no disrespect in my posts...just trying to inform people. As a matter of fact, I've ordered from here many times and have had very good experiences with your website. I just don't want people to swayed because of a personal vendetta...As you said, you and Bill don't get along..and that is fine. And whether your comment was fueled by a personal vendetta or not, as you said, everyone has an opinion, so let's leave it to them to decide.

Jeff

Yes it is true that PGE2 stimulates growth factors that stimulate angiogenesis and thus provide an avenue for cancer to metastasize. (however in muscle these same growth factors no doubt stimulate vascularity)

However you have to realize that the conditions that favor excessive anaerobic stimulation amplifying the effects of PGE2 in tissues other than muscle have nothing to do with Arachidonic acid itself, but rather a depletion of a downstream fatty acid called DHA (omega 3).

See it's the loss of "regulation" by DHA that causes all the negative effects of AA in places we don't want them to occur. How does this happen? Well in sedentary people (who don't exercise and thus don't have high turn over of AA) any deficiency in DHA will be "corrected" by an enzyme in the body called delta 4 desaturase.

What this enzyme does is "help" fill the vacancy left by any lack of dietary DHA by stimulating the conversion of AA into a DHA "replacement" called DPA (docosapentaenoic acid). Now this is where your problems really begin. Because DPA being an omega 6 fatty acid does not provide any "brakes" like DHA does.

AA is a stimulator of cellular activity. As a matter of fact as long as there is some DHA around it will stimulate the sodium/potassium pump just enough to promote beneficial energy metabolsim that recycles anti-oxidants via alpha lipoic acid cycling back and forth between dihydrolipoic acid. When you go overboard with strategies aimed at replacing AA with EPA you lose this benefit and that's probably why excess EPA is known for lipid peroxidation and vitamin E depletion.

Now just because inflammatory mechansims aren't occuring in the rest of your body doesn't mean they won't be occuring in muscle. One reason I believe is when you train a byproduct of glycolyis (anaerobic metabolism) called inositol is formed. As inositol formed from "localized" anaerobic metabolism (muscle contractions) becomes incorporated in tissues as "phosphoinositol" (which AA is preferentially bound to) it can stimulate calcium release from the sarcoplasmic reticulum. This calcium release jumpstarts a lot of mechanisms which force adaptations.

So why should someone consider supplementing with AA? Well definitely if you are an
active person and working out you'll have a higher than normal turnover of prostaglandins in skeletal muscle. Stress/dieting also reduces your bodies ability to make it. Making sure that Arachidonic acid is replaced allows further growth adaptations to take place. Furthermore it has been shown that the ratio of AA to Dihomo-gamalinoleic acid is correlated with insulin sensitivity.



I was skeptical myself of this supplement when I heard about it in August/september of 2005, but since using it I have been extremely impressed. (obviously because I decided to become a rep for molecular nutrition)

P.S. I fully expect someone to now suggest just taking DHA. Well that will work if you are a sedentary person, but if you are an athlete or someone training you have to take into account that your turnover of AA is way higher than a sedenatry person's these general population studies are based on.

Have you looked at the review section yet?

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