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> Arachidonic Acid, what is it ?
Posted: Jan 23 2006, 01:01 AM
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jeezus why is there so many damn posts in this thread.
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Posted: Jan 23 2006, 03:07 PM
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Comparison of plasma and intraluminal amino acid profiles in man after meals containing a protein hydrolysate and equivalent amino acid mixture.

Hegarty JE, Fairclough PD, Moriarty KJ, Clark ML, Kelly MJ, Dawson AM.

Plasma and intraluminal amino acid profiles were compared in normal subjects 30, 60, 120, 180 minutes after meals containing either a peptide-rich protein hydrolysate (H) or an equivalent free amino acid mixture (AA) as the nitrogen source. Except for asparagine (30 minutes) and glutamine (30 and 60 minutes), which were absorbed to a significantly (p less than 0.05) greater extent from the peptide mixture, there were no significant differences in the plasma increments of the remaining 13 amino acids at any time interval after the meals. Positive correlations (p less than 0.01 or less) between the amino acid composition of the hydrolysate and amino acid meals and both (1) the post-prandial increments in the individual plasma amino acids and (2) the residual intraluminal amino acid content suggested that the amino acid composition of ingested protein, rather than specialised free amino acid and peptide transport systems, dictated the pattern of amino acid absorption. The studies provide no evidence that peptides rather than free amino acids are the ideal nitrogen source in elemental diets.


found this one about bcca vs protein supp

That doesn't seem to really say much about BCAA supplementation. But it does bring up the point that some people make which is to say that whey hydrolysate is the most effective and efficient form of protein; moreso than even increasingly popular free form amino acid blends.

I've always wanted to try a high grade hydro whey but hear it tastes worse than anything, free form EAA included. I know one thing: if it tastes as bad as X-Factor oil then there is no possibility of me drinking it.

But it sounds as if they used a mix of EAA plus NEAA. I wonder how pure free form EAA would stack up against a high grade hydro whey.

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Gut. 1982 Aug;23(8):670-4. Related Articles, Links


Comparison of plasma and intraluminal amino acid profiles in man after meals containing a protein hydrolysate and equivalent amino acid mixture.

Hegarty JE, Fairclough PD, Moriarty KJ, Clark ML, Kelly MJ, Dawson AM.

Plasma and intraluminal amino acid profiles were compared in normal subjects 30, 60, 120, 180 minutes after meals containing either a peptide-rich protein hydrolysate (H) or an equivalent free amino acid mixture (AA) as the nitrogen source. Except for asparagine (30 minutes) and glutamine (30 and 60 minutes), which were absorbed to a significantly (p less than 0.05) greater extent from the peptide mixture, there were no significant differences in the plasma increments of the remaining 13 amino acids at any time interval after the meals. Positive correlations (p less than 0.01 or less) between the amino acid composition of the hydrolysate and amino acid meals and both (1) the post-prandial increments in the individual plasma amino acids and (2) the residual intraluminal amino acid content suggested that the amino acid composition of ingested protein, rather than specialised free amino acid and peptide transport systems, dictated the pattern of amino acid absorption. The studies provide no evidence that peptides rather than free amino acids are the ideal nitrogen source in elemental diets.


found this one about bcca vs protein supp

I am not seeing where BCCAs are being compared in this abstract...do you have the full artcle that state BCCAs were used? Also, they are not trained, nor even athletes in this study. All they are looking at is absoprtion differences? You must have the full article.
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In addition to being a competitive bodybuilder (for 10 years), I happen to be both a practitioner and nutritionist by profession, and hence have a comprehensive understanding of the pharmacological effects of just about every natural substance used for nutritional supplementation.

As a result, I am in a position to present a completely unbiased opinion on this product.

When I discovered that concentrated arachidonic acid was available as a supplement I couldn't help but become rather excited... Arachidonic acid is required for a whole variety of biological functions, including digestive function, intestinal function, protein synthesis and numerous other biological processes involved in the synthesis of lean body tissue (muscle building)

In a nutshell, insufficient stores of arachidonic acid = poor digestion, poor intestinal function and catabolism.

Since exercise, stress and numerous other factors deplete the body’s natural reserves of arachidonic acid, it is logical that those undertaking regular exercise will benefit from supplementary arachidonic acid (in the same way as other micronutrients depleted by exercise).

However, since there are many other factors involved in attaining the desired goal of bodybuildng, muscular hypertrophy, in order for arachidonic acid to work its magic, sufficient supplies of other key dietary nutrients are required - in the same way, a diet high in protein, but with insufficient fibrous/complex carbs and other ‘healthy’ fats (EFAs) will not yield positive results in the gym… not matter how much protein you ingest!

When taken in combination with a proper diet supplementary arachidonic acid cannot fail to yield results – Hence, for all those who have posted negative feedback regarding this product, I suggest you review the rest of your dietary intake (including supplements) and amend accordingly, since it is almost certainly lacking a at least one area.

In summary, this product is phenomenal, and will produce incredible results when combined with a proper diet

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