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> when can we expect ptam powder in stock
Posted: Feb 13 2004, 07:31 PM
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we can we expect those big jugs of piracetam to be back in stock?
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Posted: Feb 13 2004, 07:42 PM
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what exactly is that?

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Posted: Feb 13 2004, 08:34 PM
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It's a nootropic, check out David's article.

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Posted: Feb 15 2004, 04:53 PM
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no word?
is this the right forum for this q?
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Posted: Feb 15 2004, 05:30 PM
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This is the right one, don't worry. When we get wind of it we'll let you know if Mike doesn't post it himself. I'm looking forward to it coming in myself with some tests I have coming up this semester.

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Posted: Feb 15 2004, 07:11 PM
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I apologize for the delay in response, been covered this past week.

We should have it back in stock on wednesday/thursday.


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Posted: Feb 15 2004, 10:39 PM
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thanks
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Posted: Feb 16 2004, 01:30 PM
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i've been wondering how much should be taken with this stuff and how should it be taken since it comes in a powder form??
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Posted: Feb 16 2004, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE (tucker @ Feb 16 2004, 01:30 PM)
i've been wondering how much should be taken with this stuff and how should it be taken since it comes in a powder form??

I would use 2-3 g daily. Some like using a loading phase of 4-5 g daily or so for the first week. I would recommend just capping it yourself since it tastes like ass, just pick up a cap-m-quik and some empty caps (I linked them at the bottom of the thread), it's really easy to do with piracetam powder. Each 00 cap will be 750-800 mg in my experience.

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Posted: Feb 16 2004, 04:55 PM
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would the addition of Rhodiola Rosea help in any way?

and at what dose would make a good combo?
800mg +200mg? (pira+Rho)

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Posted: Feb 17 2004, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (Script-pro @ Feb 16 2004, 04:55 PM)
would the addition of Rhodiola Rosea help in any way?

and at what dose would make a good combo?
800mg +200mg? (pira+Rho)

I like 200-500 mg rhodiola daily and 2-2.5 g piracetam daily. They have separate mechanisms of action so they may make a good combo. The first thing I would get if you are supplementing with piracetam though is a choline supplement.

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Posted: Feb 18 2004, 10:04 PM
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What happens if you take piracetam without choline? And since choline is in eggs do you still need a choline supp if egg whites are a regular part of your diet?
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Posted: Feb 19 2004, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE (Brandon Gaither @ Feb 18 2004, 10:04 PM)
What happens if you take piracetam without choline? And since choline is in eggs do you still need a choline supp if egg whites are a regular part of your diet?

The two work synergistically, combinations have been found to be more effective than either alone.

IMO choline is a neccessary when supplementing with any smart drugs.

I believe the egg yolk is where the majority of choline is found.

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Posted: Feb 19 2004, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE (Brandon Gaither @ Feb 18 2004, 10:04 PM)
What happens if you take piracetam without choline?

I would HIGHLY discourage this. Be sure you have a source of Choline on-hand when taking Piracetam.

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Posted: Feb 19 2004, 09:14 PM
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Pircetam came in today, will be ready to ship tomorrow.
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Posted: Feb 21 2004, 04:30 PM
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where do you guys get your choline and which form do i want for supplementing with piracetam?

also i read david's article on choline is Lecithin better then?
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Posted: Feb 21 2004, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (Brandon Gaither @ Feb 21 2004, 04:30 PM)
where do you guys get your choline and which form do i want for supplementing with piracetam?

also i read david's article on choline is Lecithin better then?

You can add a tablespoon of lecithin to each protein shake, then take some extra choline if desired. We should have choline powder soon.

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Posted: Feb 24 2004, 05:15 PM
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OMG... you were right about it tasting bad!!! UGH?! so.. I mixed it with some plain yogurt since that has a strong taste and then chased it with grapefruit juice which also has a strong taste.. after a while I got used to it.. blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif about the sizing.. I am not so sure about how to measure this.. I read the 1/4 teaspoon = 850 MG.. so with my math, 1 full teaspoon is like 3400 MG's someone on here mentioned 4-5G's when you are starting out.. and so we're lookin at almost 1 1/2 tsp!!! I am starting out that's a lot of ass to down! Hmm. ph34r.gif
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Posted: Feb 24 2004, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE (nano @ Feb 24 2004, 05:15 PM)
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OMG... you were right about it tasting bad!!! UGH?! so.. I mixed it with some plain yogurt since that has a strong taste and then chased it with grapefruit juice which also has a strong taste.. after a while I got used to it.. blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif about the sizing.. I am not so sure about how to measure this.. I read the 1/4 teaspoon = 850 MG.. so with my math, 1 full teaspoon is like 3400 MG's someone on here mentioned 4-5G's when you are starting out.. and so we're lookin at almost 1 1/2 tsp!!! I am starting out that's a lot of ass to down! Hmm. ph34r.gif

Yeah, that's why I would definitely cap it yourself, it's really not much of a hassle

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Posted: Mar 23 2004, 02:26 PM
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how much choline is recommended to go with this product ima do 3 grams of ptam powder but how much choline should i put with it
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