Chocamine

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Posted by: Kow Feb 13 2004, 12:25 PM
After seeing a lot of feedback, especially on Avant's forums from people like Dante and others, I decided to try BAC's Chocamine. I've always dealt with anxiety, more social than not, but I still get very anxious and nervous very easily in just about any situation. I've got some serious cortisol-induced fat deposition from the stress from it (even though DNP and Lipoderm Ultra are my new best friends in this regard). I originally tried it to help out with this anxiety and the depression that sometimes follows.

At 1000mg 2-3x a day, this stuff is fantastic. When using it, I feel much more at ease and in an overall good mood. If I take it with water, it seems to "hit" a little bit sooner with respect to the slight euphoric feeling. If I take it with milk, it's more of a smooth happy buzz. This is a lot coming from me because I'm one of the types that NOTHING works for.

Taste and mixability leave a little something to be desired, but it's not a big deal. It's a little bitter, but I can see myself getting used to the taste. It doesn't completely mix so there's a little grittiness a la creatine at the bottom.

I won't post a link to it, but if there are those of you that are familiar with chocamine and have been thinking about trying it, I strongly urge you to do so. Maybe if we bug Mike enough, he'll get some in smile.gif

Posted by: lovetoeat Feb 13 2004, 03:39 PM
That's something I've been wanting to try, there are a few things we should bug Mike to start carrying.

Posted by: shpongled Feb 14 2004, 07:54 AM
What are the ingredients? I would assume methylxanthines. I'm presently researching theobromine, so far it seems like it doesn't have advantage over caffeine.

Posted by: Kow Feb 14 2004, 11:37 AM
The site isn't too descriptive except to say that it has theobromine (12%), caffeine (8%), and either "proprietary" amounts or 8% of PEA and theophylline. I'm iffy on the PEA because I had read it wasn't very orally bioavailable at all, but whatever it is seems to work.

I'm unsure if these are the main active ingredients or if there are more at work that they didn't want to say or didn't know too much about themselves.

Posted by: Scottyo Feb 15 2004, 11:24 AM
I will have to second Chocamine. As a pre-workout, or mood booster its great. WIth 500mg or 1 gram of ALCAR and I am flying. Seems to be a lot more effective then straight caffeine (in terms of mg per mg of total caffeine content).

Posted by: 1Fast400 Feb 15 2004, 07:23 PM
Looks like I need to pick this up, give me 10 days.

Posted by: Max32 Feb 17 2004, 01:59 AM
for those concerned with taste, try mixxing it with BSL's GO. You get a nice one-two punch as well in this mix...highly recomended rolleyes.gif

Posted by: Kow Feb 17 2004, 07:19 PM
Just wanted to give an update on this -- I know chocamine or chocolate in general either contains phenylethylamine (PEA) or contains precursors to it, and for those that don't know, that's the "love chemical," or the chemical responsible for how we feel when we're in love. That's a very horrible explanation, but if you don't like it, then uhh... huh.gif

Anyway, whenever I feel very strongly about a girl, I tend to get very anxious and lose my appetite. The loss of appetite is usually welcome, but the anxiety isn't. This stuff produces this exact same effect. It's a wonderful appetite suppressant; I could probably take 4-5g spread out over a day and eat as little as I do on Leptigen. However, I can't really deal with the anxiety as much; my social anxiety can get bad enough. It's really not as much of a mental anxiety though as it is purely physical. If you've taken too much yohimbe before (not Yo HCl, but herbal) then you probably know what I'm talking about. I don't know if this is just the stimulatory nature of the stuff overstimulating me and I'm illogically associating the feeling I get with the "love feeling," and associating that with how I get when I like a chick...but whatever it is, it's not always pleasant.

Boners are definitely up (pun intended) biggrin.gif So the sexual stimulant part is definitely working for me. The only problem is that I have no woman, but that's mainly due to the fact that I have zero game (what can I say, I'm a nerd...). But if I DID, then I'd be zealously and earnestly laying the proverbial pipe.

Overall, I will continue to use it for its thermogenic effects, appetite suppression, and mood elevation. I'll work on the anxiety part; maybe taking it with a fatty food to slow absorption to see if that helps. I'll update it if I can ever figure out how to get around this. I still highly recommend it.

Posted by: Max32 Feb 17 2004, 11:33 PM
QUOTE (Kow @ Feb 17 2004, 07:19 PM)
Just wanted to give an update on this -- I know chocamine or chocolate in general either contains phenylethylamine (PEA) or contains precursors to it, and for those that don't know, that's the "love chemical," or the chemical responsible for how we feel when we're in love. That's a very horrible explanation, but if you don't like it, then uhh... huh.gif

Anyway, whenever I feel very strongly about a girl, I tend to get very anxious and lose my appetite. The loss of appetite is usually welcome, but the anxiety isn't. This stuff produces this exact same effect. It's a wonderful appetite suppressant; I could probably take 4-5g spread out over a day and eat as little as I do on Leptigen. However, I can't really deal with the anxiety as much; my social anxiety can get bad enough. It's really not as much of a mental anxiety though as it is purely physical. If you've taken too much yohimbe before (not Yo HCl, but herbal) then you probably know what I'm talking about. I don't know if this is just the stimulatory nature of the stuff overstimulating me and I'm illogically associating the feeling I get with the "love feeling," and associating that with how I get when I like a chick...but whatever it is, it's not always pleasant.

Boners are definitely up (pun intended) biggrin.gif So the sexual stimulant part is definitely working for me. The only problem is that I have no woman, but that's mainly due to the fact that I have zero game (what can I say, I'm a nerd...). But if I DID, then I'd be zealously and earnestly laying the proverbial pipe.

Overall, I will continue to use it for its thermogenic effects, appetite suppression, and mood elevation. I'll work on the anxiety part; maybe taking it with a fatty food to slow absorption to see if that helps. I'll update it if I can ever figure out how to get around this. I still highly recommend it.

Kow, have u looked into Ergopharms Gabatropin? Really does the trick for me in terms of social anxiety, etc.... and makes a nice adjunct to alcohol. In terms of relieving anxiety, especially of the social nature, nothing will ever be able to replace the original product that allowed GABA to freely and easily pass the BBB, taken off the supp market in 1990 sad.gif ....but that is just my opinion

Posted by: Kow Feb 17 2004, 11:40 PM
I've looked into it, and I'd really like to give it a shot, but I'm not totally convinced that it's cost-effective enough for me yet.

What dose worked well for you?

Posted by: Max32 Feb 17 2004, 11:47 PM
on a daily basis, 3-4 per day...if going out for the night, 8 at once

BTW, your sig is great, got a good chuckle out of it biggrin.gif

Posted by: shpongled Feb 18 2004, 07:00 PM
QUOTE (Max32 @ Feb 17 2004, 11:33 PM)
In terms of relieving anxiety, especially of the social nature, nothing will ever be able to replace the original product that allowed GABA to freely and easily pass the BBB

Picamilon does this

Posted by: Max32 Feb 18 2004, 10:39 PM
QUOTE (shpongled @ Feb 18 2004, 07:00 PM)
QUOTE (Max32 @ Feb 17 2004, 11:33 PM)
In terms of relieving anxiety, especially of the social nature, nothing will ever be able to replace the original product that allowed GABA to freely and easily pass the BBB

Picamilon does this

right, as does phenibut, I was referring to GHB, to be more clear.
I think that is why the original hype with gabatropin was so high, people hoping it to illicit some of the same feelings as G....alas, not quite. Tranquli-G also had a lot of anxious testers, and most, were dissapointed. I think that out govt, especially as of late, fishes for reasons to take things off the market without looking into potential positives and real science (i.em concentrating on 1 neg, as opposed to 10 positives)...but I am digressing, and I should not get started.....

Posted by: lancelot Feb 19 2004, 02:29 PM
i'll definitely give chocamine a try. thanks again mike!

Posted by: dsade Feb 19 2004, 07:42 PM
Chocamine is really good stuff, and combines wonderfully with DLPA.

Max - I recommend stacking GABAtropin with Tranquili-g. It works great for me.

Posted by: Max32 Feb 20 2004, 05:27 PM
QUOTE (dsade @ Feb 19 2004, 07:42 PM)
Chocamine is really good stuff, and combines wonderfully with DLPA.

Max - I recommend stacking GABAtropin with Tranquili-g. It works great for me.

I did not think tranquili g was available anymore

Posted by: weeviekins2000 Feb 20 2004, 06:56 PM
I take St.Johns Wort. Is there something that works better? My doc had me on Lexapro, but I have no insurance and its too expensive. Is there something thats better than St.Johns Wort?.

Posted by: dsade Feb 20 2004, 09:13 PM
QUOTE (Max32 @ Feb 20 2004, 05:27 PM)
I did not think tranquili g was available anymore

If you do a search, you might be able to find some of these floating around. It is, however, not made anymore.

Posted by: Brandon Gaither Feb 23 2004, 11:45 AM
can chocamine be taken in conjuction with ECA?

Posted by: Loki Feb 23 2004, 12:34 PM
QUOTE (Brandon Gaither @ Feb 23 2004, 11:45 AM)
can chocamine be taken in conjuction with ECA?

Yes. Although if you are overly sensitive to caffeine, you might have to taper your caffeine dosage down in the E/C stack somewhat (if you combining separate ingredients).

Posted by: prolangtum Feb 23 2004, 04:35 PM
I dont know if this has been adressed, is chocamine highly orally bioavailable? What about intranasally? DLPA is quite nice intranasally stimulant wise, as is yohimbine HCL.

Posted by: Loki Feb 23 2004, 11:16 PM
QUOTE (prolangtum @ Feb 23 2004, 04:35 PM)
I dont know if this has been adressed, is chocamine highly orally bioavailable? What about intranasally? DLPA is quite nice intranasally stimulant wise, as is yohimbine HCL.

Yeah, I would say at least 90% or so. As per the 2nd part of that: not that I'm aware of. Why don't you prep a few lines?? (all in the ummm...'name of science' naturally, although I suspect this could be a rather unpleasant experience...)

I'm gonna' go do some looking into this, it just never even occurred to me before.

Posted by: prolangtum Feb 24 2004, 12:28 AM
QUOTE (Loki @ Feb 23 2004, 11:16 PM)
Why don't you prep a few lines?? (all in the ummm...'name of science' naturally, although I suspect this could be a rather unpleasant experience...)


I learned by trial and error with 5-HTP. During the AL chat last tuesday I said WTF, probaly wouldnt happened unless i was high. Quite unpleasant. Nothing tops Ephedrine, that is a friggin nasal burner.

Posted by: Scottyo Mar 4 2004, 10:27 PM
Your right about the damn eph....as for chocamine, Ive tried it once or twice intra-nasal but at real low doses, and didnt notice anything special. Not the easiest either and was almost as bad as the ephedrine. The particle size is quite large, or at least is not as smooth as other things. That all said, intra-nasal does funny things with some compounds for me. Tried caffeine a couple times and it made me jittery and emotinal as hell. Mood swings every few minutes.

Posted by: Loki Mar 4 2004, 11:09 PM
Actually, kind of a cool pre-workout thing is just to down a Vasopro tab & chase a heaping tsp. of Chocamine-- that shit gets you energized like none other...

"If it's a supplement-- don't snuff it" is my new mantra-- I've found everything other than 5-AA, Synephrine & Yohimbine to be bad news...

Drugs, you can snort; nobody out there should be trying to 'feel the high' off their friggin' Kreatine Ultra or whatever...

Posted by: lancelot Mar 22 2004, 06:42 PM
mike, can we get an ETA on chocamine? thanks.

Posted by: Stinger Mar 24 2004, 10:23 AM
QUOTE (lancelot @ Mar 22 2004, 06:42 PM)
mike, can we get an ETA on chocamine? thanks.

Yeah, I am also quite interested in this...

Posted by: dsade Mar 31 2004, 12:46 PM
BUMP

I needs me a refill on the Chocamine.

EDIT: Now that's what I call service smile.gif

Posted by: lancelot Mar 31 2004, 12:47 PM
chocamine is in! you're awesome mike! now, when are you getting the policosanol in?

Posted by: CYPHON Apr 3 2004, 09:57 PM
Awesome. I also await the policosanol. It's a beutiful thing when one store fullfills all your supplement needs.

Posted by: douglas kepanis Apr 4 2004, 05:20 PM
Coudl I do a new version of an ECY stack-- using Ephedrine, Chocamine, and Yiohimbine??? Anyoen try this? results? thanks DOuglas

Posted by: Loki Apr 4 2004, 07:52 PM
I stack Vasopro & Chocamine all the time, but I've never used it consistently for weight loss (I usually use it as a stim. when I need to alleviate some mental fatigue & enhance cognitive focus-- a little intra-nasal Y helps too). I really like the combination-- although the caffeine content in Chocamine isn't really that high, so you're going to need about 5 'servings' to get 200mg of Caffeine...

Posted by: poohburr Apr 6 2004, 12:06 PM
Big bump on Gabatropin, Kow. Perfect for what you've described.

Posted by: Cyrix Apr 8 2004, 06:56 PM
I've been using Chocamine for many months. I usually mix only half a teaspoon with some Gatorade and drink it down fast. This stuff gives me a nice euphoric boost. The "happy" feelings from Chocamine feel smoother and last longer than the effects from coffee or caffeine pills. Here's something funny- I took two teaspoons of Chocamine and watched a video of the original "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" (from 1974). Well, I was cracking up -- laughing all through the movie, as if I was stoned on some good weed. Weird but fun. I guess I overdosed on Chocamine?

Posted by: triazolam Jun 1 2004, 01:47 PM
Hey there, I'm a bit new here, but I noticed that someone mentioned that chocamine as well as chocalate contains phenethylamnie. Phenethylamine has NO activity in man as a drug, though, yes, the brain produces it as a feel good chemical. All amphetamines, mescaline, MDMA, MDA, so on are all based on phenethylamine, so it's really no wonder that chocolate and chocamine makes one feel, well, good... smile.gif...


My 2 Cents

Triazolam.

Posted by: rrgg Jun 2 2004, 10:34 AM
Are you guys implying that chocamine acts like a social lubricant and also gives you feelings of euphoria similar to a mild ghb? ?????????

Posted by: lancelot Jun 2 2004, 04:37 PM
QUOTE (rrgg @ Jun 2 2004, 10:34 AM)
Are you guys implying that chocamine acts like a social lubricant and also gives you feelings of euphoria similar to a mild ghb? ?????????


no, not at all. you can't compare any OTC supplement including phenibut to anything like G,C, or E. don't kid yourself. with that said, i do use chocamine 1g/2x day and it gives me a very mild good feeling kinda like coffee w/o the jitters. that's all. people should stop comparing OTC things to yummy G cuz it just dissapoints me everytime i try to copy it. not even close. so sad i didn't buy and store 10gallons of it when i had the chance......

Posted by: rrgg Jun 17 2004, 01:23 PM
So you guys find chocamine actually improves your energy or is strictly a mood enhancer for some people? I'm pretty confused about this one.

Posted by: Debaser Jun 18 2004, 11:38 AM
I take an herb called Bacopa for ridding my social anxiety. Each pill is 100mg and i take them 3 times a day. It's totally cured me of my social anxiety. Im going to try chocamine too though to see if it has similar anxiety relieving effects.

Posted by: lancelot Jun 18 2004, 12:52 PM
QUOTE (Debaser @ Jun 18 2004, 11:38 AM)
I take an herb called Bacopa for ridding my social anxiety. Each pill is 100mg and i take them 3 times a day. It's totally cured me of my social anxiety. Im going to try chocamine too though to see if it has similar anxiety relieving effects.

i wouldn't say that chocamine is an anti-anxiety supplement. it's more of a mood lifting and energy supplement, but you are welcome to experiment for your purposes. let us know.

Posted by: shpongled Jun 19 2004, 04:09 PM
Low doses of chocamine could potentially have a mild anxiolytic effect (similar to low doses of caffeine in some individuals), but I wouldn't count on it.

Posted by: P.Logo Nov 29 2004, 06:36 PM
Whats the difference between Chocamine and taking a caffiene pill?

Posted by: Blake71228 Apr 21 2005, 02:53 PM
NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE GUYS....
hey! im 16 years old and i just ordered chocamine and it came in today, i got it for energy purposes, i weight about 184 and im about 6ft. do you all think it would be safe for me to take chocamine or not?
e-mail me at jesusfreak088@aol.com to tell me what you think.
thanks blake

Posted by: sdf42450 Apr 21 2005, 03:09 PM
QUOTE (Blake71228 @ Apr 21 2005, 01:53 PM)
NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE GUYS....
hey! im 16 years old and i just ordered chocamine and it came in today, i got it for energy purposes, i weight about 184 and im about 6ft. do you all think it would be safe for me to take chocamine or not?
e-mail me at jesusfreak088@aol.com to tell me what you think.
thanks blake

i would not recommend any stimulant to anyone under 18. your body is in a state of hormonal flux right now. let it sort itself out befor you start throwing extra stuff into the mix

Posted by: Lee28596 Apr 21 2005, 03:27 PM
well 5 HTP seems to work for me...... got weird depression and anxiety spurts.... probably dur to being in the military..... but i use that in conjunction with fatty acids and st. johns... adding phenibut to the mix here too... should be feeling fancy free in a bit...

Posted by: newequation Apr 21 2005, 04:37 PM
Just got some chocamine a few weeks ago, and cant say that Ive felt anything at all. Taken several doses and up to one gram at a time. I think Ill try more than that, though havent heard of anyone going higher. Whats the most you guys have taken for one dose and are there any adverse effects at higher doses?

Posted by: poison Apr 22 2005, 03:41 PM
Nah, go ahead, slowly add in a quarter teaspoon at a time to get the desired effect. The worst that should happen is you'd be amped up...oh, wait, did I just say Amped? cool.gif

I take it with a teaspoon of sugar and water. Tastes great!

Posted by: rrgg Apr 23 2005, 09:57 AM
No, that's not the worst that can happen. I accidentally measured too much chocamine and was on the floor. It didn't "amp" me up either.

Posted by: boly Apr 24 2005, 09:38 AM
QUOTE (Blake71228 @ Apr 21 2005, 01:53 PM)
NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE GUYS....
hey! im 16 years old and i just ordered chocamine and it came in today, i got it for energy purposes, i weight about 184 and im about 6ft. do you all think it would be safe for me to take chocamine or not?
e-mail me at jesusfreak088@aol.com to tell me what you think.
thanks blake


i would not recommend any stimulant to anyone under 18. your body is in a state of hormonal flux right now. let it sort itself out befor you start throwing extra stuff into the mix


chocamine its not a dangerous drug lol if it was why is coca cola still on the market with his cafeine?

when i was 11 sometimes i eat 3 white choca bars i get a really good feelin with a lot of enegy it was just the chocamine rolleyes.gif

Posted by: poison Apr 24 2005, 05:00 PM
I put in a review on the product page, but I'll post it here too.

Chocomine does nothing for me. Zero. You all are wimps taking girly-man supplements.

*whiny voice* "PMS-ing? Here is a kleenex, my shoulder, and a serving of chocomine, you'll soon feel better." *whiny voice*

When you all come up with a real stimulant, let me know. Until then, sit there and let it bleed. I'll stick to my quad espressos and ephedrine.






Just kidding! laugh.gif I didn't feel much. Doesn't taste good OR bad. Blah. Whatever, a waste of $11. Could be worse. If you are a lightweight, go for it. Otherwise, there are more effective things around...

Posted by: HitHardUK Jul 7 2007, 07:00 AM
I recently received my Chocamine and have to say the effects are quite profound. I'm still experimenting with the dosage, but have found 1g (measured scoop) to be too strong and resulting in a strong high then anxiety / restlessness. That said, I am not prone to anxiety... I have taken ECA in the past for months. This morning I took 500mg of Chocamine with Reflex Chocolate Whey Protein... mixed well after 15mins felt the smooth lift! (I recommend taking this with Protein/Water rather than Water alone.) Although I wasnt expecting much and just bought it for a mild lift... it seems to be a potent Nootropic and really stimulates brain activity, as well as having thermogenic / appetite suppressing properties.