R-ala vs Ala

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Posted by: ctkeebler Feb 13 2004, 12:13 PM
I have been reading information on the store page and bb.com about r ala and ala, I just started a keto diet and was wondering which one was better to take and what doses. I kinda understand that R-ala may be better, but the reviews of the 1fast r-ala some people suggested that ala may be better.

Thanks

Posted by: Kow Feb 13 2004, 03:43 PM
If you're doing a keto diet, I wouldn't use either unless just for antioxidant benefits. If you're planning periodic refeeds, then ALA/R-ALA could be beneficial.

As for which is better overall, Layne/str8flexed's somewhat recent article cited some studies that showed that neither was necessarily better than the other.

Posted by: ctkeebler Feb 13 2004, 06:29 PM
where is that article on 1 fast or bb.com?

Also I was doing a 12 or 24 hour carb up once a week

Posted by: Caleb Stone Feb 13 2004, 07:35 PM
QUOTE (tom lucas @ Feb 13 2004, 06:29 PM)
where is that article on 1 fast or bb.com?

Also I was doing a 12 or 24 hour carb up once a week


It was in issue #16 of M&M:

http://www.avantlabs.com/magmain.php?issueID=16&pageID=179

Posted by: ctkeebler Feb 13 2004, 10:54 PM
Thankyou I printed it and will read it tonight. There ws also a new article on bb.com about ala and r-ala.

Posted by: The Big B Feb 14 2004, 02:10 AM
Big thanks to Par for posting that link. biggrin.gif That was a very good article, it gave me a much better understanding of the mechanism by which the glucose uptake is increased. I was already aware of the partitioning benefits of ALA, but I had never read an article that explained it in such a way. However, it still leaves me with the question that my coworkers and I have discussed in the past: What role if any could ALA play in ketosis? Would taking in ALA as part of an already low carb diet put a person into ketosis faster and help to maintain it longer? My personal experience with R-ALA as part of a low carb leaning diet was that seemed to get leaner faster taking 200mg before each meal (5-6 meals/day), as opposed to just consuming a low carb diet alone. It seemed that what little carbs I was taking in were more quickly partitioned allowing for more ketosis. Anybody else experience similar results?

Posted by: shpongled Feb 14 2004, 07:44 AM
QUOTE (tom lucas @ Feb 13 2004, 06:29 PM)
where is that article on 1 fast or bb.com?

Also I was doing a 12 or 24 hour carb up once a week

I would use a low dose at most during most days and then take 600-900 mg during carb ups. As far as ALA vs. R-ALA, I think ALA works fine myself.

Posted by: ctkeebler Feb 15 2004, 01:14 AM
As a low dose like to 200-300 range of the R-ala (thats what I bought from 1fast)
Can I take it all at once or is it better to take 100mg 2-3 times a day. Thanks

Posted by: shpongled Feb 15 2004, 07:32 AM
QUOTE (tom lucas @ Feb 15 2004, 01:14 AM)
As a low dose like to 200-300 range of the R-ala (thats what I bought from 1fast)
Can I take it all at once or is it better to take 100mg 2-3 times a day. Thanks

The second way is better, the half-life is relatively short.

Posted by: Paul DeGuzman Feb 17 2004, 07:40 PM
QUOTE (shpongled @ Feb 14 2004, 07:44 AM)
QUOTE (tom lucas @ Feb 13 2004, 06:29 PM)
where is that article on 1 fast or bb.com?

Also I was doing a 12 or 24 hour carb up once a week

I would use a low dose at most during most days and then take 600-900 mg during carb ups. As far as ALA vs. R-ALA, I think ALA works fine myself.

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...on the carb-ups, is that 600-900mg per carb meal?....or 600-900mg TOTAL for the duration of the carb-up??

Posted by: prolangtum Feb 18 2004, 01:15 AM
the only time I use ALA now is when glucose disposal towards muscles is highest, PWO.

Posted by: shpongled Feb 18 2004, 04:12 PM
Assuming it is less than one day, for the total duration of the carb up. With regular ALA you might want to use 1200-1500 mg.