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Whey vs BCAA which one is better? |
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| Posted by: Smith_X Jun 6 2005, 06:27 AM |
| If I have to choose only one supplement. Which one is better between Whey and BCAA ?? Thanks |
| Posted by: ShakesAllDay Jun 6 2005, 01:33 PM |
| Whey is the more cost effectvie alternative. BCAAs are good when you need aminos available very quickly (post-workout). But, whey is a better choice for most other circumstances. |
| Posted by: DerekakaBeast Jun 6 2005, 01:35 PM |
| Agreed, you should opt for the whey if you can only get one. |
| Posted by: Travis55542 Jun 6 2005, 01:37 PM |
| I thought some people take BCAAs pre-workout and during workout as well. |
| Posted by: NOS Jun 6 2005, 01:49 PM | ||
I take during. after Weights before Cardio usually |
| Posted by: matt59618 Jun 9 2005, 05:50 AM | ||||
ditto.... definitely helps feed and maintain the muscle during such long stretches of physical activity |
| Posted by: ShakesAllDay Jun 9 2005, 09:29 AM |
| Yup, I take BCAAs pre- and post-workout. |
| Posted by: Meagan42589 Jun 9 2005, 09:41 AM |
| Why take BCAA's pre and post workout, doesn't whey protein have a complete profile of BCAA's? Also if you are taking them during your workout would it take some time before they are going to be abosrbed? Just wondering. |
| Posted by: DerekakaBeast Jun 9 2005, 11:26 AM | ||
It takes about 15 minutes before free-form amino acids hit the blood stream and 45-60 minutes before amino acids from whey hit the blood stream. |
| Posted by: Smith_X Jun 9 2005, 11:43 AM |
| Thanks very much for all replys. That's mean I must have whey first. |
| Posted by: Meagan42589 Jun 10 2005, 08:49 AM |
| In what form are you getting your free form BCAA's from. I used ICE before but that stuff tasted like crap. |
| Posted by: ShakesAllDay Jun 10 2005, 09:13 AM | ||
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| Posted by: shpongled Jun 12 2005, 01:53 AM | ||
Yes, whey has plenty of BCAA's already |
| Posted by: shpongled Jun 12 2005, 02:01 AM | ||||
Derek, you have a reference for this? According to the research I have done, whey is absorbed equally as fast or more rapidly. And I am certain that in healthy people, whey is utilized to the same degree or greater - probably greater. Transporters exist in the intestine for both peptides and for individual aminos, so more transporters are available for whole proteins, especially ones like whey which are digested very rapidly. There are a few refs on the efficiency and rate of digestion of whole proteins vs. free-form aminos in the BCAA article (linked below). Gut. 1982 Aug;23(8):670-4. Related Articles, Links Comparison of plasma and intraluminal amino acid profiles in man after meals containing a protein hydrolysate and equivalent amino acid mixture. Hegarty JE, Fairclough PD, Moriarty KJ, Clark ML, Kelly MJ, Dawson AM. Plasma and intraluminal amino acid profiles were compared in normal subjects 30, 60, 120, 180 minutes after meals containing either a peptide-rich protein hydrolysate (H) or an equivalent free amino acid mixture (AA) as the nitrogen source. Except for asparagine (30 minutes) and glutamine (30 and 60 minutes), which were absorbed to a significantly (p less than 0.05) greater extent from the peptide mixture, there were no significant differences in the plasma increments of the remaining 13 amino acids at any time interval after the meals. Positive correlations (p less than 0.01 or less) between the amino acid composition of the hydrolysate and amino acid meals and both (1) the post-prandial increments in the individual plasma amino acids and (2) the residual intraluminal amino acid content suggested that the amino acid composition of ingested protein, rather than specialised free amino acid and peptide transport systems, dictated the pattern of amino acid absorption. The studies provide no evidence that peptides rather than free amino acids are the ideal nitrogen source in elemental diets. |
| Posted by: shpongled Jun 12 2005, 02:10 AM |
| Oh, and just to clarify, I don't believe BCAA supplementation is worthwhile, for the following reasons: 1) BCAA's decrease CNS dopamine levels in healthy individuals, there is no doubt about this. For those that don't know, decreased dopamine --> lack of energy, depression, increased appetite, and so on. 2) There is not a single study showing free-form BCAA's to improve athletic performance or body composition when compared with a protein supplement providing the same amount of BCAA's. In fact, according to the research of Tipton et al., the author most commonly referenced in support of BCAA supplementation, supplementation with ~40 grams of mixed amino acids (IOW, what you would get from regular protein) captures all of the benefits of BCAA supplementation, since there is a dose-related limit on the anabolic effects of amino acids. |