but is this a good stack?
NOX2
1,4 Andro
Hydroxycut
Scott
hows this stack? |
1Fast400 Forums > Hormone/Prohormones |
| Posted by: Football56 Apr 15 2004, 08:48 PM |
| hey i was just woundering if this stack would work? NOX2 from pinnacle , 1,4-Andro from 1fast400, and hydroxy-cut from muscle-tech. and when should i take 1,4-Andro? and how many caps? im 5'10" 1/2 and 151 pounds age - 15. and my body fat % is probably 10-15. I usually wokrout 4-5 times a week monday - chest, biceps, triceps, and shoulders. tuseday - legs, and back wed - off or the same as monday thursday - chest, biceps, triceps, and shoulders. (depends if i take wed off or not) Friday - legs, and back. thanks. scott |
| Posted by: Football56 Apr 15 2004, 11:04 PM |
| i really need help on this topic so could someone please post a comment. thanks. |
| Posted by: shpongled Apr 16 2004, 01:17 AM |
| I don't think NOX2 is worthwhile, and there are better fat burners than Hydroxycut, like Lipo 6 EF. 1,4-andro should be 600-1000 mg daily spread throughout 3 or more doses. |
| Posted by: Football56 Apr 16 2004, 01:20 AM |
| when should i take the 3 doses? morning? before lunch? before workout? |
| Posted by: shpongled Apr 16 2004, 01:23 AM | ||
Morning, before or after your workout, and before bed |
| Posted by: BIG STEVIE Apr 16 2004, 08:58 AM |
| First, i think all of the Nitric Oxide products are just hype, Second there are much better, less expensive products than Hydroxycut-all muscletech stuff is over priced! Third and most importantly - YOUR FIFTEEN! You shouldnt be using any of this stuff. Especially not any type of prohormones! Evaluate your diet - i.e. if it consists of nothing but fast food it needs to change! Maybe get a protein suppliment. Train with an EXPERIENCED person- none of us knew what the hell we were doing in a gym at 15. Then train hard & be PATIENT -your not gonna get diesel in 8 weeks! |
| Posted by: Football56 Apr 16 2004, 07:57 PM |
| ive been personal trained i i know what im doing. and im gunna be taking protein with it i think its optimum 100%protein whey in the black jug, kinda cool jug.. |
| Posted by: Football56 Apr 16 2004, 11:57 PM |
| take before i go to bed? will that do anything? |
| Posted by: shpongled Apr 17 2004, 03:07 AM | ||
I didn't notice that. Agreed - you definitely should not be taking prohormones. |
| Posted by: shpongled Apr 17 2004, 03:08 AM | ||
Your questions demonstrate that you clearly do not know what you are doing. At 15 there is no chance that you are anywhere near your growth potential. Eat more. |
| Posted by: Football56 Apr 17 2004, 02:29 PM |
| yea, but my friend took this stack with the 1,4 andro and the NOX2 but with no hydroxy cut.. and he said he had no side effects and recomended it me. Also with the 1,4 - Andro should I be taking it before i go to bed? or would it be better to take it at a different time? i will be taking 1 capsule right when i wake up, on empty stomach and 1 immediatly before i work out, i still dont know when to take the third one. and how much water should i be drinking and food i should be eating while on NOX2 and Andro ? but is this a good stack? NOX2 1,4 Andro Hydroxycut Scott |
| Posted by: Rwyan Apr 17 2004, 03:09 PM |
| At 15 your natural testosterone levels should be through the roof. Nutrition alone should be plenty. at 150 lbs if you consumed 300grams of protein a day, you should see significant gains. |
| Posted by: DAdams Apr 17 2004, 06:14 PM |
| And thus the ban begins. |
| Posted by: shpongled Apr 18 2004, 03:46 AM | ||
You aren't listening. Two people have said that would not be a good stack. You also should not be taking prohormones when you are 15. 17-19 is pretty risky as is. If you want to gain weight, eat more. |
| Posted by: tucker Apr 18 2004, 12:45 PM |
you are the reason why prohormones are being banned....  ...your fuking 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stay away from prohormones until AT LEAST 21!!!!!!!!!!they will ruin your body and you will have mjor side effects down the road....please trust what we say....your test levels are so fuking high right now that u dont need prohormones!!!!!!!! i'm 22 and even that may be a lil too young but i can read my body better than you from experience!!!! so in conclusion stay away from prohormones, take nitrous from syntrax...this product is better than NOX2 NO2 NO3 ETC..., take v12 from SAN and take lipo6 from nutrex.....you will thank me in the end |
| Posted by: BIG STEVIE Apr 19 2004, 10:09 AM |
| I LOVE IT WHEN A 15 YEAR OLD SAYS I'M TRAINED. I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING. PHs ARE NO GAME, KID. YOU DONT KNOW EVERYTHING. Ive been training 16 years & i dont claim to know everything! Please anybody reading this, give mr football some tuff luv!! |
| Posted by: Skate Apr 19 2004, 11:35 AM |
| Ok guys settle down... I don't have any experience in using prohormones, but listen to these guys. 15 is waaaaaaaaaay too young to be getting into this kind of shit. If you want to take protein shakes...super. But for God's sake start there and leave it there for the time being. You may have been personally trained...but I imagine that was for lifting purposes...not in supplements. One of the biggest thing that's giving our supps heat right now is because they're afraid of kids getting into this shit and not knowing what they're doing...and frankly that's what you're doing. We all may sound like assholes...and so be it...but if you came on here for help and suggestions, don't get pissed off because it's not what you want to hear. These guys are looking out for your safety and well being. And just out of curiousity....WTF do your parents think about this!? Do they even know you are considering getting into this stuff? |
| Posted by: Big Fish Apr 19 2004, 12:50 PM |
| Hey My name is billy and I'm in third grade and I learned divsion today in school. I also talked to a girl and she was very nice. I also am going to start a M1T Cycle tomorrow after school on the play ground, 5'1" 110 lbs. I'll keep you guys posted! |
| Posted by: BIG STEVIE Apr 19 2004, 01:18 PM |
| Good post, Skate! This kid just doesnt get it!! And, yes THIS GUY IS THE REASON SUPPLIMENTS WILL BE BANNED!!!!!! |
| Posted by: Skate Apr 19 2004, 01:23 PM | ||
Ok...I admit...LMFAO at that!!!  Really though...football, stay away from that stuff for now. Hell, I had never lifted before getting into playing ball in high school and I made huge gains without taking anything at all. I put on 100bls+ in less than a year on my bench. You're young...take advantage of that for the time being. I know you're taking a lot...and I mean a LOT of shit from the guys right now, and if you saw it from our perspective you'd understand. Getting into that shit at your age is just nuts. If you're set on taking it then there is probably nothing we can do to talk you out of it. I come on this forum for advice too, and I take suggestions to heart when I get them. It may not be what I want to hear, but so be it. At 15 there is no reason to take chances on fucking up your body for the rest of your life. ...and still LMAO at fish's comment |
| Posted by: Skate Apr 19 2004, 01:25 PM |
| Still laughing my ass off at fish....holy shit that was funny Btw football, you said your friend used that stuff and was ok. I imagine he is probably around your age, so hope you realize that whomever is buying this shit for him can land his ass in jail. And like I said before...this kind of bullshit is going to be the reason more and more supplements get banned. And if some dipshit at a store is seeling this stuff to kids then they need to be reported cause dumb fucks like that are just as much to blame for supps getting banned. Personally I'd rather drag idiots like that behind my car for a couple miles on a gravel road...but that's just me And don't fall into that lame ass catagory of "he did it and was ok so I'll be ok too". If you keep that kind of mentality you'll be a smack addict before you're 18! I know we're all coming down hard on you, but you have to realize that we are looking out for your safety. Please take our suggestions to heart. If you need help on program routines and diet needs then that's what we're here for. But to be honest, the guys probably aren't going to offer dick for help if you insist on taking that stuff. You're gonna do what you're gonna do...so that's out of our hands. Just hope you listen to us. Ok...time to get of the ol' soapbox...btw...is there a cursing limit per post? Cause if there is I have a feeling I exceeded it |
| Posted by: Skate Apr 19 2004, 03:19 PM | ||
Billy...make sure you're taking an extra Flinstone's Multi-Vitamin during the cycle... |
| Posted by: Skate Apr 20 2004, 12:28 PM |
| Hell I'm still laughing at Fish's comments. That's worth bumping this post just so everybody sees it |
| Posted by: nicholos Velovich Apr 20 2004, 02:06 PM |
| Doesnt 1fast require that you are an adult to purchase PH's? Secondly if his parents are ordering the supplements for him and have no idea what they are............................... |
| Posted by: Pridg01 Apr 20 2004, 02:15 PM |
| Football56 is lying about his age and is trying to get a rise out of people. Try checking his other threads if you don't believe me. |
| Posted by: Skate Apr 20 2004, 02:29 PM | ||
Yeah if you want to see a rise you should see my other post on one of his threads... Btw...can somebody ban his ass please??? |
| Posted by: Kris20279 Apr 28 2004, 07:24 PM |
| M0r0n |
| Posted by: Slugga Apr 28 2004, 10:42 PM |
| I am 19 and the thought of prohormones has run through my mind, but again I am still too young. I am on Swole V2 right now and I have seen fantastic gains in muscle mass, strength and endurance in the gym. My test levels are great right now and I am benefiting from that without the danger of side effects down the road. If I were you I would play it safe and just stick with a stack like Swole V2 and Nitrous and you will have good success. |
| Posted by: Alston20212 Sep 29 2004, 02:10 PM |
| I do not know if this is a joke, but it is plausible enough to know that there are people who are thinking about taking in exogenous hormones (from roids or phs) at such an early age. I noticed two things that people my age (21 and younger) might want to know. Ever notice how some people in elementry/middle school hit their growth spurts early? Some kids start developing secondary characteristics such as a deeper voice and increased mass at a very early age. At that time, most of them were at my height or taller. Six years later when I catch them right before going to college I noticed that the vast majority of them are shorter than I am! People take exogenous hormones to get effects of additional secondary male characteristics such as lower body fat and higher muscle mass. However secondary male characteristics usually signal the body to fuse the bone plates and stop growing. Maybe that is why I seem like a giant to those kids who developed early. This can be more than a height issue as the bones form the basic body structures and may affect your health. My second thing is that some guys take a LOT longer to develop. Some guys continue to grow in height up to their early 30s. I grew from 5foot 6 to 5 foot 7.5inches while I was in college. Don't cheat yourself of your potential! |