Hey I appologize in advance cause this is the third thread i start in the past couple weeks but I i'm anxious to start taking prohormones and am not sure exactly where to start. I've done some research but I wanna make sure I get it right the first time. Here's the thing, I don't want tons of effects (hair loss, bad acne, bitch tits) but I wanna see results within a few weeks. From what i saw, I thought 1,4 andro or 19 nordiol would be a good place to start cause it has low effects .What I'm wondering is for what it'll take me to see results with andro or nordiol, as far as effects would it be pretty much the same as if I saw those same results with a prohormone that works a little faster. I hope you understood that. Aside from that, I'd like to know which works better, andro or nordiol, and whats the best way to take it. Also, if I take whatever you recommend, do I need to cycle something with it to prevent side effects. Thanks to anyone who replies to this, and if you recommend something else for me, that's great too. All coments more than welcome. If you know an other place where I could get some helpful info let me know. living in canada it's hard to get advice on prohormones from anyone at the local nutrition centres. thanx again

If you want my opinion I think you should just take 1-test and 4-AD. The side effects really aren't major and you will be glad you did it. If you want to completely avoid side effects, you aren't going to end up with effective compounds. You can have it one way or the other, and IMO 1-test/4-AD gives the best balance.

hey thanx for the info again dave but i'm going to first try andro and see what kind of gains I can get. if that fails I'll turn to the 1-test. on that subject do you know if the site will be getting more "1,4 Andro 90 Capsules/200 mg 1Fast400", and if not do you know the best andro alternative? thanx again

do i have to cap it or can I drink it in a shake? might be pretty gross huh. Also you have something about gel for better absorption, why is this an issure for the powder but not the capsules? Just wondering. And the fact that it's not vacum sealed. Does that mean it'll lose it's quality over time?

Well you said you made up your mind and are taking Andro. I'd advise against that. Andro has an extremely low conversion rate. I mean it's the worst. So youre getting very little for your money. And the side effects are also bad compared to newer prohormones such as 1AD. 1AD or 1 Test are both awesome, they work extremely well and I haven't seen side effects while on them. Many side effects are said just as a warning. Such as hair loss, that is unlikely unless youre already prone to it, you'll know this if your grandfather on your moms side is bald. For GREAT information, go to www.bodybuilding.com and go to their supersite read the articles especially the one's by Peter Van Mol aka Big Cat. He's one of the best out there and is a great source of knowledge. He has a complete prohormone guide on that site. Best of luck to you.