. Phenibut |
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| Posted by: Tschanen Apr 12 2005, 10:32 PM |
| [PRODUCT]1497[/PRODUCT] Man this stuff really does mess you up. I took too much, because I guess I was bieng impatient. My warning is not to take more than you really need. Slept really good, think I needed a better environment than being home w/ the wife and kids. My mood is great though I was tired...not like a went out all night and got trashed type of tired but a relaxed, it feels good, type of cuddle in your blanket and sleep. Thank god I had nothing to do today. But I did miss my workout.... . |
| Posted by: alexoc949 May 4 2005, 12:26 AM |
| did you take this at night and then still felt tired throughout the next day? |
| Posted by: mudger May 4 2005, 12:45 AM |
| I am very curious about this stuff... 1. Is it anabolic? Or does it just help you be more sociable and sleep better 2. Are hangover effects prominent? 3. Does it taste bad? 4. Side effects, good v bad I would appreciate it if someone answered these questions |
| Posted by: mudger May 4 2005, 10:44 AM |
| bump |
| Posted by: 6Plates May 4 2005, 11:06 AM |
| 1. Not anabolic. Affects mood. 2. Can be depending on dose. 3. Don't know, I've only had it capped. 4. If dosing is correct, mood enhancement is significant. |
| Posted by: cbfull May 4 2005, 12:07 PM | ||
2) I actually like the hangover. I just feel very social the next day. I don't usually even feel anything the first day I take it. For me, a night of sleep makes it kick in a little more. There is a risk of having "rebound anxiety" several days after you stop using it. So far, this seems to only happen if you use it for more than a week at a time. 3) Yes, it tastes very, very bad. It tastes like very sour and very bitter at the same time. Apparently, the stuff can be made to neutral acidity with sodium bicarb or something like that, but I have not tried that yet. That would probably get rid of the sour taste and leave only bitter, and maybe salty too. Some people don't mind when these powders taste really bad. Advice - take it with diet sprite and the taste goes away much quicker. 4) Don't know of any bad side effects unless you take too much or take when you have been drinking. |
| Posted by: italionstallionl May 4 2005, 01:12 PM |
| i dont think there are any side effects unless dosage is extremely high----900 mg per kilo of body weight, in that neighborhood. it tastes kind of like alcar, maybe slightly stronger, but nothing horrible. i had a fairly bad hangover after taking 4 grams of it, but when doing normal dosage i do not get the "phenibut hangover" |
| Posted by: Tschanen May 11 2005, 08:53 PM |
| I like the hangover. I feel tired like I could go to sleep. But I still feel stimulated mentally, and still want to get shit done. I love the stuff! It really inhibits my fear of things suck as heights, etc. When I was in cancun last week I jumped off a 50ft cliff inside one of those underground water caves and I didn't even studder to think about what the hell I was doing..I then climbed the Chichen-Itza pyramid...which is steep and fucking huge as if I was Rocky or something...while other people were half way up and clinging for life and crying hysterically....hahaha, my wife was almost one of them....I told her to take some...but no. She didn't want any. |
| Posted by: Heimir May 12 2005, 01:00 AM | ||
Are you sure about the 900mg per kilo of body weight? That comes out to 81 grams for a 200lbs person. I guess you can say thats extremly high dosage  I find the hangover really bad. I got 60 grams but only used it twice because I feel like crap the next day. I did cap it so I don't know how bad it tastes. |
| Posted by: jjbraz Jul 23 2005, 07:55 PM |
Wow this stuff is great!! Nice relaxation, with euphoric energy for 24 hrs or more and makes you feel like your superman during sex....really, its great for sex! It almost reminds me of something else I use to take,(@#%) but not quite! Hhmmmmmm  It really does relieve anxiety and improve mood. But DOES ANYBODY KNOW HOW TO MEASURE THE DOSE BETTER? I love the effects but I have no clue as to how much a gram is and I don't want to take too much by accident. Been there and its no fun! I have only taken it at the most three times a week, usually once or twice, so I have had no problem with rebound anxiety or sleep loss. And does anybody have any suggestions on what works better- capsules or mixing? Thanks |
| Posted by: mh03 Jul 24 2005, 01:03 AM |
| If you wanted to take it for partying, how long does it take to kick in? How does alcohol react with it? Does it really make you tired or just relaxed? |
| Posted by: Gyno Jul 24 2005, 03:23 AM |
| ^^^^ Great question, I am wondering the same |
| Posted by: Tharpin30 Jul 24 2005, 03:47 AM |
Well i took 2grams of this stuff before i went out the other night felt alittle something not much, drank a 6 pack 2 40's and dabbled in alittle...ok alot of green  but i dont really think the phenibut did much bc i had plenty of the otehr stuff to get messed up. Next "mourning" i had no hangovers or anything. I went to bed at 7am and woke up at 4pm i slept pretty solid  |
| Posted by: Lee34718 Jul 24 2005, 12:20 PM |
| DO NOT take more than 1.5g of this stuff if you are going to be doin some drinking. I take phenibut for partying purposes and I've found that 1.5g works best for mood enhancement. It amplifies the effect of alcohol so be very careful. You get messed up pretty quick if you use it with a lot of alcohol. Check out my review on phenibut in the reviews section |
| Posted by: Tharpin30 Jul 24 2005, 11:14 PM | ||
I didnt end up with any negative sides mixing the 2g and alch. Tonight i tired it by itself, 4 grams, and im feel pretty good. Im actually suprized that i could acheive the feeling ive got right now off a legal supp like this. I guess ill see how i feel tommrow though. |
| Posted by: Patrick24599 Jul 25 2005, 10:20 AM |
| Tried it. 1.5g a couple hours before bed. Felt tired, slept, woke up and felt "dumb" the whole next day. This isn't the first GABA agonist to do this to me though, so I wasn't terribly surprised. |
| Posted by: WardrobeMalfunction Jul 30 2005, 06:14 PM |
| The first few time I used Phenibut it worked great for mood elevation. Now it's not doing much. I use 1.2 grams. It figures. If it's too good to be true, it probably is. |
| Posted by: jjbraz Aug 9 2005, 05:04 AM |
| What is a good stack for phenibut? Is there anything that helps increase its effects, or is there anything that is suggested to take with it that works well? Just wondering if it compliments anything or vice versa!? Thanks |
| Posted by: jjbraz Aug 9 2005, 05:07 AM |
| oh! The effects do seem to plateau a bit. But is still great for sleeping in late! |
| Posted by: tsc Aug 9 2005, 11:47 AM |
| It varies for different people, but if you take a regular dose to relax or before something stressful etc., you won't feel any negative sides the next day (especially if you dose during the day). If you take larger doses to get more of a high effect, you can expect to be dragging the next day. I just don't feel up to doing much of anything. If I force myself to start something, or am going to work etc. that feeling does disappear quick enough (it just seems to kill motivation). A stimulant of some sort is worth taking in the morning after large doses. I find it most useful for dealing with stressful situations... at least those you can see coming. TSC |
| Posted by: Eric27 Nov 16 2005, 10:08 AM |
| I love this stuff! I took 1500 mg. in Gatorade the other night before bed and slept like a baby. The next day I felt calm and collected all day without the haze or confusion that I usually get with Xanax. How often can I dose this before bed without developing a tolerance? The only thing I noticed was some slight stomach discomfort. Are there any other side effects to this stuff in which I am not aware? Is this stuff addictive like a prescription benzo? Thanks guys. |
| Posted by: sm00f Dec 31 2005, 08:53 PM |
This stuff is great, I have a different brand thats precapped for a bit cheaper though, I find 1.5g (i weigh 270 though so most of you could use less im sure) of it makes 3 beers = 6 or so. Don't even think of driving if you take this and have only a couple drinks, it seems to really amplify the loss of coordination from the alcohol which I dont think would be too hot for driving  Its also very useful for nicotine withdrawal even though I dont see that listed in any of the writeups but there have been studies on gaba agonists lessening nic withdrawal (basically it just gets rid of the edgy bitchy wanna kill everybody feeling when quitting.) |
| Posted by: mh03 Jan 1 2006, 03:33 AM |
| For me 1.5g with 3 or 4 vodka drinks messes me up decent. 2 drinks chills me out. If I take 2g and go out drinking for the night (6-12 liquor drinks), I end up with a horrible hangover the next day. One time I took 4g and went out drinking. I ended up so messed up I couldn't remember some of it and I got sick. Start it off with a low dose. |
| Posted by: Eric27 Jan 3 2006, 12:09 AM |
| I noticed that BN is out of stock on phenibut. Does anyone know when they expect more in? |
| Posted by: bobjo Jan 6 2006, 01:21 PM |
| anyone know if it would be safe to take this along with paxil and klonopin i take everyday? |
| Posted by: bobjo Jan 6 2006, 02:17 PM |
| anyone? |
| Posted by: WardrobeMalfunction Jan 7 2006, 12:16 PM |
| bobjo, I have taken Klonopin (1 mg) w/ Phenibut. No problems I also Take Cymbalta & Remeron. Might notice a little dizziness w/ Remeron if I have Phenibut in my system. Keep in mind that's ME. Phenibut is back in stock. It's the good stuff. 680 mg per ¼ tsp. The last batch was 550 mg per ¼ tsp. |
| Posted by: Philip48070 Jan 7 2006, 02:49 PM |
| I take Aniracetam as a moderate dose several times a day, and almost every day, partly for nootropic/smart effect, but also partly for anxiety-reduction, for which purpose I find it to be excellent. I seem to have very few tolerance issues re Aniracetam ( i.e. I can take it almost every day, and still enjoy the benefits ). I also feel quite safe/healthy using Aniracetam almost every day, and get no bad side-effects or anything like that. I've never used Phenibut. Given what I have said above, do you think it probable that I would react in some ways similar to Phen as I do to Anirac? - i.e. can use a moderate dose several times a day for anxiety-reduction, with little tolerance or sides, and would it be a reasonably healthy thing to take a moderate dose of Phen several times a day, as I do with Anirac? I know reactions to supps are quite individual, but if anyone has any opinions re my questions, re from their own personal experience, or whatever, I'd be interested to hear them. Thanks. |
| Posted by: wayne80332 Jan 7 2006, 10:22 PM |
| I'm having trouble dosing this stuff. I got the 480mg=1/4 teaspoon. I've done lower then 480mg and felt nothing. Did around 700mg and felt nothing. Around a gram is when I start to feel it's effects. What sucks is the most I took was around 1000-1200mg and I slept great but woke up feeling very dizzy the next day. I use it only on the weekends so far. The only positive effect so far was it's ability to knock me out if I take enough and get much needed rest if I haven't slept well or much. Does anyone know any other GABA products that pass the blood brain barrier that I can try? This is the first one I've come accross. thanks. |
| Posted by: Eric27 Jan 14 2006, 12:58 PM |
| Will this stuff show up positive for any substance on a drug test? |
| Posted by: wayne80332 Jan 14 2006, 02:49 PM |
| wow.. wierd thing happend to me the other night. This was after 3 days dosing around 1 gram of phenibut before bed and on the 4th day I took 1.5 grams of Gaba alone late. LIke 2 hours later on that 4th day I got like this head surge and overall un-explainable feeling all over my body. It was seriously almost orgasmic. I was with my girl at the time and I had unbelivable ejaculation controll that night. Seriously felt like I could orgasm on command no matter how excited I was. Few days later without the phenibut or gaba and i'm back to myself having to really concentrate to controll orgasm. What is the deal? I have to mess with other doses and maybe try it longer but this was a unbelievable experience. Mentallly I felt so alert too! Could this be a remedy for premature ejaculation? |
| Posted by: hypnotik Jan 14 2006, 09:01 PM | ||
Dang, it sounds like you got your money's worth! |
| Posted by: MTMGreenfire Aug 20 2006, 01:51 PM |
| I alternate between a ketogenic diet and a low fat, high carb diet, which are pretty much polar opposites, and I found that phenibut is much more effective while I'm eating lots of carbs. Phenibut is a sort of unnatural amino acid, so I suspect that it competes with natural amino acids for crossing the blood-brain barrier. Serum amino acids should be lower on a high carb diet because insulin causes the muscles to absorb AA's from the blood. The effect on phenibut is so pronounced that the stuff is practically useless as a sleep aid when I'm in ketosis and comparable to prescription sleep aids when I'm eating carbs. The anti-anxiety and relaxing effects also last much longer when I'm on the high carb. As for neutralizing the acidity, I cap it with the calculated amount of baking soda or calcium carbonate. The chemical reaction fizzes out of the capsule inside the stomach, rapidly dispersing the contents for a faster effect. I use 0.39g baking soda or 0.23g calcium carbonate per gram of phenibut. The baking soda version is faster acting, but provides 107mg (4.6%DV) of sodium per gram of phenibut dose. Note that phenibut is actually phenibut HCl (that's why it's acidic), so the formula is C10H14NO2Cl and the molar mass is 215.6. Baking soda is NaHCO3 with molar mass 84.01, and calcium carbonate is CaCO3 with molar mass 100.09. a molecule of baking soda reacts with 1 of phenibut HCl, and one of calcium carbonate reacts with 2 of phenibut HCl, so the amounts I use are stoichiometric. |
| Posted by: cc-10 Aug 20 2006, 10:22 PM |
| is it better than beer? |
| Posted by: alexoc949 Aug 20 2006, 11:49 PM | ||
not a chance...i'm not getting much from it... though i have been on a low carb... and dude stated above that it effects one on a keto diet differently |
| Posted by: wayne80332 Aug 21 2006, 02:01 PM |
| it's better then beer for me. I used to drink a lot a couple of years ago and my brain doesn't function off alcohol the same. I used to drink and be so happy and so social and just be myself when I did. Now I get a slight happy feeling after 2 beers for 15 minutes and thats it. Doesn't matter how much I drink after that. I mostly get depressed after drinking too. I try to avoid it anymore. It doesn't nothing good for me. |
| Posted by: alexoc949 Aug 21 2006, 05:36 PM | ||
thats not such a bad problem to have |
| Posted by: Christopher Rodriguez Aug 21 2006, 07:19 PM |
| THe way I dose it when I'm going to have a couple of drinks, is take one cap (500mg) every hour until I feel the effects of the alcohol and Phenibut.... You'll be alright for the rest of the night... For me, there's usually a 2-3 hour delay in the effect, depending on how many times I've recently took it before. |
| Posted by: Patrick24599 Aug 21 2006, 07:24 PM |
| Looks like BN just started carrying Primaforce Phenibut. http://www.1fast400.com/?products_id=4951 |
| Posted by: wayne80332 Aug 21 2006, 09:29 PM | ||||
yea.. it helps me be healthier but also more tempted towards drugs/marijuana. Haven't gone that route though and don't plan too. Phenibut is the only drug i'll use.. lol. |
| Posted by: alexoc949 Aug 21 2006, 09:43 PM | ||||||
my diet is usually only ruined due to drinking... would be nice if phenibut filled the void for me... but i'm not getting much this time around... i think in the end i need to just find me some xani bars |
| Posted by: Debaser Aug 22 2006, 09:43 AM | ||||||||
what are xani bars? |
| Posted by: WardrobeMalfunction Aug 22 2006, 03:49 PM | ||
Big Phenibut fan here too. I ordered a bottle of primaforce to compare it to BN's. I was surprised to see a fairly big capsule (pic has a quarter as comparison) that only holds 250 mg phenibut. I opened it and poured it into a 1/4 teaspoon. About 2/3 full. BN's phenibut would be about 500 mg in the measuring spoon. (740mg per 1/4 teaspoon). It seems to be weak compared to BN's. I opened a capsule and mixed it w/ water. It does not have the bite (acidity?) that BN's does. Scivation was supposed to have capped Phenibut out soon too. |
| Posted by: alexoc949 Aug 22 2006, 08:56 PM | ||||||||||
xanax...white bars that can be broken into four very small pieces that equal the pink xanax pills which is the lowest mg available... i don't know as a fact, cause i usually will pop what's around when around them... but i believe the pinks are 5 mg and the xanax bars which are white in color equal 2 mgs...xani (zani) is just short for xanax |
| Posted by: alexoc949 Aug 22 2006, 08:57 PM |
| but don't get me wrong...i would never promote that |
| Posted by: wayne80332 Aug 22 2006, 09:03 PM |
| side effects from these FDA approved drugs are just ridiculous. Not worth it imo. |
| Posted by: seanmack13 Oct 3 2006, 04:28 PM |
| So how long does it take to kick in? |
| Posted by: IkeMike Oct 17 2006, 03:35 AM |
| I would say it takes and hour to an hour and a half to kick in, and the effects vary depending on how much you take, what you take it with, and what your general mood is. I've had my bottle for exactly one day and have already experienced a whole range of effects. I don't eat much during the morning, a few cups of coffee and cigarettes (great diet, I know)...a dose mixed witha red bull made me euphoric and relaxed...was a little out of it at first, too relaxed to really care about the tasks at hand, but when I got used to the feeling I became attentive enough to sit through and absorb an intense lecture. I then had enough motivation, concentration, and inspiration to go about errands with aplomb for four or five hours. Now I'm studying, and my concentration level is great. No idea how I'll feel tomorrow, but if future doses affect me the same way I think I'll become a convert. The person who recommened it compared it to a mild dose of valium, but with the stimulant/concentrative effects of a drug like aderall. I'll take his word for it. :-) Great substance, though...can't wait till someone finds a way to blow/shoot/smoke it and it becomes illegal. Oh, and the stuff makes a Vault Zero taste spectacular (remember, smoker here, so I'm not sure either of my remaining taste buds would register an overwhelming flavor). I'd imagine it'd add a little zing to something like a gin & tonic, but who wants to risk screwing up a good liquor buzz? :-) |
| Posted by: mike79933 Oct 25 2006, 01:29 AM |
| im gonna try this stuff i ordered it and ancrirum (sorry for spelling) any way i want to try and use it to stop drinking, the only reason i drink is to be more social but it usally gets way outa hand and i get very nervous and depressd the next day. The thing is when i drink i grab so many more numbers because ill just be mad confident. im hopping the ancrium and the same affect and also help with concentration. i take zoloft and adderral somtimes, will this be a problem? also i love the way xanax makes me feel but i dont like bein dependant on anything, especially when its something like xanax that makes me sleep like 15 hours and makes me stupid during the day. thanks for the help. |
| Posted by: seanmack13 Oct 27 2006, 11:32 PM |
| I was very impressed with this substance. Seems like it takes a while to kick in, and is most effective when the dosage is split up in 3 or even 4 doses throughout the course of the day. It works best I think if you take 800mg before going to sleep, then another 800mg before b-fast and 800mg before lunch and then it seems to kick in good, moderatley euphoric and increases desire to socialize a lot. I went through 30gm in less than a week(took a couple days off even, as I recall) and didn't really feel anything the last day or two even at 4gm doses so yeah, tolerance develops FAST, like faster than anything else I have done. Side effects became rather apparent towards the end of the day after having ingested 4gm or so split into 800mg doses like dizziness, uncoordinated, speech seemed slightly slurred to me though no one mentioned it to me, started to get the spins a lil bit one night after a rather large dose. Just a side note, I take two ginseng complex caps twice a day as well as green tea throughout the day, no idea if this could contribute to effect, but it's worth noting. Also, does anyone have anymore experience on using it with piracetam? What about mixing it with any other (legal/nonalcoholic) substances? Someone mentioned GABA in another post I believe. |
| Posted by: DORIAN52400 Nov 9 2006, 05:39 PM |
Me and my boys Snort it daily and we get wicked mashed!!  |
| Posted by: deejayy515 May 2 2007, 12:04 PM |
| backorder |
| Posted by: ew123397 May 3 2007, 05:07 PM |
| Ok I have phenibut, standard dose for me is half teaspoon. Usually it just puts me in a better mood, any more than this will make u feel slightly drunk. I didnt experience wanting to run up and hug ppl idk. One day I took 3 half teaspoons and went to school loool. Didn't feel anything first hour then all of a sudden it hit me I felt sooo fucked up I falled my chemistry quiz. Lol I was stumbling in the halls an shit. Taking too much also makes it harder to concentrate your eyes. I usually don't feel tired in the morning, I usually feel better like the phenibut works better over the next day if u take it late the last day. Phenibut is weird and I don't use it regurly. The taste is exactly like a crushed up vitamin c pill so get ready for an extremly sour taste if u pour in liquid. Also it mixes incredibly good in liquid. Pour into a shot of water then chase it down with water quick. This is so good info on Phenibut with my experience at least. |
| Posted by: ew123397 May 3 2007, 05:12 PM |
| OMGGGGG FORGOT TO MENTION THE FIRST TIME I TOOK THIS WITH PIRACETAM THEN SMOKED A BLUNT. THE GREATEST HIGH EVER LOOOL. MUSIC SOUNDS SO FUCKING GOOD WITH WEED,PHENIBUT, AND PIRACETAM. PPL YOU SHOULD TRY THIS. |
| Posted by: griffin1 Sep 12 2008, 09:52 AM | ||
Are you kidding me? That is just plain ignorant to be posting doses for substances you are clueless about. Not to mention you're a sales rep! The dosage you gave could be very dangerous. Know your facts![I] |
| Posted by: rbrooks656 Sep 12 2008, 01:26 PM |
| My personal experience with phenibut was an extremely relaxed mood. That being said, don't buy the primaforce version, its crap. Use the capped 1fast400 version. I tried the primaforce and 1fast400 versions and it was night and day. And if you take too much, you will get a phenibut hangover. It's not painful or like you'll have a headache, but you'll be extremely slow mentally for the next day. It would really suck. |
| Posted by: Jor EL Sep 15 2008, 08:55 AM |
| I posted several msgs a few years back about Phen. Its a great product in moderation and i can not stress enough, you need to take time off after use. You def need to cycle this stuff and if you have an addictive personality, then be real careful. 3 days on and at least 3 off, more the better. kick in time varies, but usually within an hour or so. I used a scooper from an old betagan can and mixed with OJ because I was little lost about servings. Trail and error, but start off small. Take too much and your shitting pure liquid and puking like you slammed a bottle of Goldshclogger (sp) The longer you stay on this, the more you need and the harder it is to get off. And getting off this stuff (if you have been on for awhile) is not easy. Have fun... |
| Posted by: Succio Sep 15 2008, 12:10 PM |
| every time i took some of this i got terrible headaches afterwards |
| Posted by: alexoc949 Sep 16 2008, 10:24 PM |
| the last few times i've taken it, tired as fuck the next day. Hasn't been worth it for me. I loved it with some piracetam at one time though |
| Posted by: Denton Oct 4 2008, 01:56 PM |
| I've been taking it fri-sat-sun (minimum, sometimes another day in the week) for almost 2 years. I have actually lowered my dosage lately because I was going thru 100 grams in 2 months. I used to take 3-4 g's each of those days (spread out over 4 doses), I am now down to 1-2 g per day and it still works, just at a little lower level (and much cheaper to do it this way). |
| Posted by: Jor EL Oct 6 2008, 08:34 AM |
| i can not stress this enough- if you take this stuff for lets say 3 days in a row, take at least 4 days off. the longer you use this stuff, the more you need and the longer you are on it, the harder it is to get off. long term use (for those who become easily dependent) is hard to get off. and yes it tastes like shit |
| Posted by: RandyOrton Oct 8 2008, 04:31 PM |
| just bought the capped version of the 1fast400 kind, anxious to try it out, pretty much just got it to get f'd up a bit, i guess ill start with one pill (250mg) and go from there, i here its pretty strong and i dont want to kill myself and be miserable out the gate |
| Posted by: Cdubya Oct 11 2008, 10:46 PM |
| Phenibut is so fucked up. Randy, you need to take more than that bro. I took 2.5 grams my first time and idk it didn't do much but make me kinda tired. The next day though I was a motherfucking mess. Sooooo tired and fucked up it was so uncomfortable. Phenibut just isn't worth it. |
| Posted by: Cdubya Oct 11 2008, 10:47 PM |
| Jor El, do you take your phenibut with your russian bear? |
| Posted by: RandyOrton Oct 12 2008, 06:14 PM | ||
yeh i realized after i took it yesterday and felt nothing, i was told to start low so thats why i strted with one pill...i really dont know how many to take, every where i look people have different ways to take it listed |
| Posted by: Cdubya Oct 13 2008, 12:46 PM |
| I would start at a .5 gram minimum to feel anything bro. I'm an idiot and take the max dosage right away, but that still didn't even do much to me except for like I said, the next day was hell. That's why this shit sucks, you have to kind of plan it out, and even then it's tough to know when it could kick in.. |
| Posted by: hypnotik Oct 17 2008, 03:57 PM |
I didn't like the pills too much. I couldn't dose them the way I wanted to. I'm going back to powder. Mostly because I can fool my coworker making him think he's not taking as much  |
| Posted by: paintballpro005 Oct 17 2008, 07:07 PM |
| This stuff worked pretty good for me, but it takes a lot more than it should. I think 1Fast400 changed their formula or something, because the other day it took me about 4 grams of the capped version to get desired effects (and this is the first time Ive taken it in a few months) |
| Posted by: jamesperterson Mar 4 2009, 12:21 AM |
| Where i can purchase http://allnutri.com/pid39191/[PLINK=4951 |
| Posted by: Doogsy Mar 4 2009, 03:03 AM |
| I bought 700gs from nutraplanet and it was a complete wasste of time. Felt nothing at all. Ended up throwing it away! |
| Posted by: frank351544 Mar 4 2009, 08:53 AM |
| Phenibut doesnt do anything. You can "feel" its effects, but, just "feeling" something doesnt mean its actually doing anything. |
| Posted by: biggie313002 Mar 4 2009, 10:22 AM |
| What the fuck do you know frank? you stupid asshole. You just spam around here trying to sell your "body building secrets program" PM'ing everyone about that stupid shit. Do you really think ppl believe you when you say you can get them to be 400lbs of solid mass? dumb bitch |
| Posted by: Doogsy Mar 4 2009, 12:54 PM | ||
He's a real tool! |
| Posted by: biggie313002 Mar 4 2009, 01:03 PM |
| yeah fuck that bitch ass pussy |
| Posted by: frank351544 Mar 4 2009, 01:06 PM |
| FAGOTTS |
| Posted by: Doogsy Mar 4 2009, 01:30 PM | ||
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| Posted by: Jake Varner Mar 6 2009, 09:39 AM |
| I took Phenibut, once. I went to bed shortly after, woke up 14 hours later, and felt drunk as hell. I couldn't walk straight and my legs were jello. |
| Posted by: DavidAimes Aug 31 2009, 09:56 PM |
| On the subject of Phenibut, I'm seeking some kind of case study info from sources other than reports in the US. I'd like to have some actual documented prolonged use, daily use studies from its country of origin(Russia). I know it's been used there for MANY years for MANY different reasons. I recently have started using it, and started just using a couple times a week but now I find that it's my drug of choice. It's become something that has changed my life for the positive, I used to suffer from SEVERE anxiety and depression as well as addiction. <br><br>For the past few years I've been self medicating with alcohol for the most part, but I've been on prescribed antidepressants from every generation there is of them. I find that taking 1g in the morning and 1g at night totally relieves my anxiety symptoms and puts me in a good mood. I find that I no longer need to drink, in fact I can have one or two drinks and no longer have any desire to continue drinking, and even despise the buzz. For me this is a miracle, I never thought I could find a substance that was affordable enough to ween me off alcohol and cure my anxiety and depression all in one. The only problem I have is that I want to know what the long term problems may be.<br><br>Short term, I've run into one problem that is bothering me. When I take the Phenibut daily within a week I put on 5-10 lbs of weight, and seems to continue the gain until I take a break from the substance. Is this water retention, or is it actually weight gain because instead of drinking I'm eating three meals a day instead of one? I don't know! But for me, the trade off is acceptable but I don't want to become overweight, maybe I just need to make changes to my lifestyle like eating healthier and exercise? So far this is the only main concern I'm having.<br><br>Phenibut notes, I have amazingly crisp and clear and wonderful dreams, and can remember them. I sleep shorter periods of time and am able to wake up when needed and feel refreshed and ready to go, and if I didn't get enough sleep within an hour of taking first daily dose feel zero tiredness. I have zero social anxiety, and no panic attacks. I'm happy being myself these days. I don't seek drugs or alcohol. Sexual side effects are VERY positive! My erections are amazingly solid and I can delay orgasm until I'm ready, staying power do they call that? Orgasm is better than I've ever had before! I have no problems with cognitive functioning thus far, and find that my concentration is much better as well(I was diagnosed ADD when I was 15). So my question, what are the long term problems associated with this drug/supplement? I hope I don't have to be the guinee pig and find out for myself. I don't want to get fat, and maybe there is another supplement I can take, a diuretic maybe if it is water weight, because I feel bloated more than I feel like I have gained weight(more physically notice my stomach gets a bit larger, like a beer belly). Does this substance strain the liver? Anyone that can help or refer me to a physician with experience with this drug would be GREAT! Also, when using Phenibut on a non-daily basis, my symptoms of anxiety and everything come back within one to two days.<br><br>Notes:<br><br>I'm 28 and 180 lbs normally, up to 195 when taking phenibut daily.<br>5'11" Tall, I don't get enough exercise and know that, smoke 1/2-1 pack of cigarettes a day(Phenibut has no effect on cravings), Single white male, full time college student. I've used Phenibut for about five months one month at a time with a week/two in between each month and thus have noticed the weight issue. <br><br>Thanks everyone!!<br><br><br><br> |