but don't get me wrong...i would never promote that

side effects from these FDA approved drugs are just ridiculous. Not worth it imo.

So how long does it take to kick in?

I would say it takes and hour to an hour and a half to kick in, and the effects vary depending on how much you take, what you take it with, and what your general mood is. I've had my bottle for exactly one day and have already experienced a whole range of effects. I don't eat much during the morning, a few cups of coffee and cigarettes (great diet, I know)...a dose mixed witha red bull made me euphoric and relaxed...was a little out of it at first, too relaxed to really care about the tasks at hand, but when I got used to the feeling I became attentive enough to sit through and absorb an intense lecture. I then had enough motivation, concentration, and inspiration to go about errands with aplomb for four or five hours. Now I'm studying, and my concentration level is great. No idea how I'll feel tomorrow, but if future doses affect me the same way I think I'll become a convert. The person who recommened it compared it to a mild dose of valium, but with the stimulant/concentrative effects of a drug like aderall. I'll take his word for it. :-) Great substance, though...can't wait till someone finds a way to blow/shoot/smoke it and it becomes illegal.

Oh, and the stuff makes a Vault Zero taste spectacular (remember, smoker here, so I'm not sure either of my remaining taste buds would register an overwhelming flavor). I'd imagine it'd add a little zing to something like a gin & tonic, but who wants to risk screwing up a good liquor buzz? :-)

im gonna try this stuff i ordered it and ancrirum (sorry for spelling) any way i want to try and use it to stop drinking, the only reason i drink is to be more social but it usally gets way outa hand and i get very nervous and depressd the next day. The thing is when i drink i grab so many more numbers because ill just be mad confident.

im hopping the ancrium and the same affect and also help with concentration.

i take zoloft and adderral somtimes, will this be a problem?


also i love the way xanax makes me feel but i dont like bein dependant on anything, especially when its something like xanax that makes me sleep like 15 hours and makes me stupid during the day.

thanks for the help.

I was very impressed with this substance. Seems like it takes a while to kick in, and is most effective when the dosage is split up in 3 or even 4 doses throughout the course of the day. It works best I think if you take 800mg before going to sleep, then another 800mg before b-fast and 800mg before lunch and then it seems to kick in good, moderatley euphoric and increases desire to socialize a lot. I went through 30gm in less than a week(took a couple days off even, as I recall) and didn't really feel anything the last day or two even at 4gm doses so yeah, tolerance develops FAST, like faster than anything else I have done. Side effects became rather apparent towards the end of the day after having ingested 4gm or so split into 800mg doses like dizziness, uncoordinated, speech seemed slightly slurred to me though no one mentioned it to me, started to get the spins a lil bit one night after a rather large dose.

Just a side note, I take two ginseng complex caps twice a day as well as green tea throughout the day, no idea if this could contribute to effect, but it's worth noting.

Also, does anyone have anymore experience on using it with piracetam? What about mixing it with any other (legal/nonalcoholic) substances? Someone mentioned GABA in another post I believe.

Me and my boys Snort it daily and we get wicked mashed!!

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Ok I have phenibut, standard dose for me is half teaspoon. Usually it just puts me in a better mood, any more than this will make u feel slightly drunk. I didnt experience wanting to run up and hug ppl idk. One day I took 3 half teaspoons and went to school loool. Didn't feel anything first hour then all of a sudden it hit me I felt sooo fucked up I falled my chemistry quiz. Lol I was stumbling in the halls an shit. Taking too much also makes it harder to concentrate your eyes.
I usually don't feel tired in the morning, I usually feel better like the phenibut works better over the next day if u take it late the last day. Phenibut is weird and I don't use it regurly. The taste is exactly like a crushed up vitamin c pill so get ready for an extremly sour taste if u pour in liquid. Also it mixes incredibly good in liquid. Pour into a shot of water then chase it down with water quick. This is so good info on Phenibut with my experience at least.

OMGGGGG FORGOT TO MENTION THE FIRST TIME I TOOK THIS WITH PIRACETAM THEN SMOKED A BLUNT. THE GREATEST HIGH EVER LOOOL. MUSIC SOUNDS SO FUCKING GOOD WITH WEED,PHENIBUT, AND PIRACETAM.
PPL YOU SHOULD TRY THIS.

My personal experience with phenibut was an extremely relaxed mood. That being said, don't buy the primaforce version, its crap. Use the capped 1fast400 version. I tried the primaforce and 1fast400 versions and it was night and day. And if you take too much, you will get a phenibut hangover. It's not painful or like you'll have a headache, but you'll be extremely slow mentally for the next day. It would really suck.

I posted several msgs a few years back about Phen. Its a great product in moderation and i can not stress enough, you need to take time off after use. You def need to cycle this stuff and if you have an addictive personality, then be real careful.

3 days on and at least 3 off, more the better.

kick in time varies, but usually within an hour or so. I used a scooper from an old betagan can and mixed with OJ because I was little lost about servings. Trail and error, but start off small.

Take too much and your shitting pure liquid and puking like you slammed a bottle of Goldshclogger (sp)

The longer you stay on this, the more you need and the harder it is to get off. And getting off this stuff (if you have been on for awhile) is not easy.

Have fun...

every time i took some of this i got terrible headaches afterwards

the last few times i've taken it, tired as fuck the next day. Hasn't been worth it for me. I loved it with some piracetam at one time though

I've been taking it fri-sat-sun (minimum, sometimes another day in the week) for almost 2 years. I have actually lowered my dosage lately because I was going thru 100 grams in 2 months. I used to take 3-4 g's each of those days (spread out over 4 doses), I am now down to 1-2 g per day and it still works, just at a little lower level (and much cheaper to do it this way).