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Posted by: sec3313 Mar 22 2005, 03:19 PM

[MANID]137[/MANID] i've recently started going back to the gym. I was trying to get 1ad of course I found out that it is now illegal and can no longer get any. I called my online supplier and they told me the next closes thing is the vyotec viraloid. any input would be great.

Posted by: DR X Mar 22 2005, 03:38 PM

I have never tried it but I understand it is a 1-test product that has slipped through the ban. There should be a write up on this site.

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Mar 22 2005, 03:47 PM

http://www.personal-training.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=498&whichpage=1

http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=11675

Posted by: Heimir Mar 22 2005, 05:41 PM

QUOTE (Slayer of Souls @ Mar 22 2005, 03:47 PM)

http://www.personal-training.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=498&whichpage=1

http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=11675

I read the Australian page but did not see anyone there really getting any results.

With all the people requesting samples it should be plenty of results but not many posted.

The guy in Iraq that said he had good results is not really representative of the group here since he does a few pullups, crunches and some bowflex. Does not sound like someone that lifts.

I think I stay away until more realworld results are positive.

Posted by: weeviekins2000 Mar 22 2005, 06:36 PM

QUOTE (Heimir @ Mar 22 2005, 05:41 PM)

QUOTE (Slayer of Souls @ Mar 22 2005, 03:47 PM)

http://www.personal-training.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=498&whichpage=1

http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=11675

I read the Australian page but did not see anyone there really getting any results.

With all the people requesting samples it should be plenty of results but not many posted.

The guy in Iraq that said he had good results is not really representative of the group here since he does a few pullups, crunches and some bowflex. Does not sound like someone that lifts.

I think I stay away until more realworld results are positive.

What do you mean by "that doesn't sound like someone who lifts?". The bowflex is resistance exercise and you can increase stength on pullups and crunchs as well as resistance exercise with the bowflex!. As long as they increased their reps or weight on the bowflex then thats improvement!. Your logic is just flawed.

Posted by: TheDiesel Mar 22 2005, 07:06 PM

QUOTE (Heimir @ Mar 22 2005, 05:41 PM)

QUOTE (Slayer of Souls @ Mar 22 2005, 03:47 PM)

http://www.personal-training.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=498&whichpage=1

http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=11675

I read the Australian page but did not see anyone there really getting any results.

With all the people requesting samples it should be plenty of results but not many posted.

The guy in Iraq that said he had good results is not really representative of the group here since he does a few pullups, crunches and some bowflex. Does not sound like someone that lifts.

I think I stay away until more realworld results are positive.

You would be surprised at the amount of weight rooms in Iraq for American soldiers/Marines/sailors/airmen.

Posted by: Heimir Mar 22 2005, 08:44 PM

QUOTE (weeviekins2000 @ Mar 22 2005, 06:36 PM)

QUOTE (Heimir @ Mar 22 2005, 05:41 PM)

QUOTE (Slayer of Souls @ Mar 22 2005, 03:47 PM)

http://www.personal-training.com.au/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=498&whichpage=1

http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=11675

I read the Australian page but did not see anyone there really getting any results.

With all the people requesting samples it should be plenty of results but not many posted.

The guy in Iraq that said he had good results is not really representative of the group here since he does a few pullups, crunches and some bowflex. Does not sound like someone that lifts.

I think I stay away until more realworld results are positive.

What do you mean by "that doesn't sound like someone who lifts?". The bowflex is resistance exercise and you can increase stength on pullups and crunchs as well as resistance exercise with the bowflex!. As long as they increased their reps or weight on the bowflex then thats improvement!. Your logic is just flawed.

No my logic is not flawed.
You did not read his post did you?

Posted by: Heimir Mar 22 2005, 08:48 PM

This is what he posted and what I was refering too.
Does this sound like a guy that does serious lifting?
Even by his own admission is not a serious lifter.

Quote:
Greetings from a US Marine deployed to Al Asad, Iraq. My apology for the delay.

Here is my feed back after utilizing Biochem's 'Muscle Tap' for 30 days.

1. I 'DID NOT' experience any of the below side effects while taking 'Muscle Tab'.

- Muscles Tie Up
- Gastric Upset
- Sore Tendons
- Increase Aggression
- Premature Ejaculation (wouldn't know)
- Increase in libido
- Chest Pain

2. I 'DID' experience the following:

- Overall increase in muscle weight
- Overall increase in strength
- Overall increase in endurance
- Decrease in body fat was noticed

I'm not sure if the improvements were do to my working out on a regular basis or due to 'Muscle Tab'. It could have been a combination of both.

I wouldn't advise taking it on an empty stomach as I did experience light headiness whenever I did.

I took 2 tabs each morning for 30 days.

I'm a 36 years old male and I'm not a serious weight lifter. Mostly run 2-3 miles Mon-Fri. Pull-ups. Crunches. Some bow-flex exercise since it's the only machine I have to utilize that is close to where I work.

The package did not list all the ingredients in the product so in retrospect I'm hoping nothing negative is reflected when I participate in a routine urinalysis.

I 'WOULD' recommend this product if you feel as though you have reached a 'no gain' point in your work out and want to find out for yourself if this product gives you a boost.

Biochem, how might I obtain more or should I look for Viraloid in the states

MOGY

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Mar 22 2005, 09:31 PM

I am just going to wait and see,postive feedback is not to strong. When NO was introduced into the market there seemed to be greater postive feedback.

I am just going to wait for somone to give their results, hopefully rich will provide his review soon.

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Mar 22 2005, 10:57 PM

Product: Viraloid Viraloid
Date: Sunday 20 March, 2005
Review:

Amazing. 1-Testosterone mislabeled. When dogs are not allowed in a building just call your dog a mouse and everything will go well. This is
a pro-hormone with the wrong label. No, it is not the new concept that the advertisement speaks of. Testicular shrinkage, changed mood and muscular gains. Yes, here remains an anabolic steroid after the ban. It exhists only because it is not labeled correctly. It works as well as any other 1-test product with the same side effects.

have you read this review? I just saw this.

Posted by: Heimir Mar 23 2005, 12:22 AM

QUOTE (Slayer of Souls @ Mar 22 2005, 10:57 PM)

Product: Viraloid Viraloid
Date: Sunday 20 March, 2005
Review:

Amazing. 1-Testosterone mislabeled. When dogs are not allowed in a building just call your dog a mouse and everything will go well. This is
a pro-hormone with the wrong label. No, it is not the new concept that the advertisement speaks of. Testicular shrinkage, changed mood and muscular gains. Yes, here remains an anabolic steroid after the ban. It exhists only because it is not labeled correctly. It works as well as any other 1-test product with the same side effects.

have you read this review? I just saw this.

Where did you read this?

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Mar 23 2005, 01:24 AM

http://www.1fast400.com/product_reviews.php?products_id=1736

Posted by: hrdgain81 Mar 23 2005, 09:15 AM

excuse my sketic ramblings but that sounds like a load of shit to me. In all write ups on the webpage they speak of it as a "super duper" LH booster similar to trib. Where did this 1-test theory come from? did a lab test it and find out it had some in it.

Just seems shady and stupid to me.

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Mar 23 2005, 11:47 AM

i agree hrdgain, when I first read it i thought the exact same. Gains are minimal and is nothing compared to the gains you would have with a PH.

I am just waiting for someone reputable to give a proper review. people on that australian site give no feedback and are just asking for freebies, even when freebies are OVER! *sigh* people these days...

Posted by: charles64272 Apr 4 2005, 08:02 AM

i stack it with tribulus, it works real well, gained 3 lbs of mass in 8 days,boosts sex drive however the acne is a problem

Posted by: franky59 May 4 2005, 06:08 PM

I just got two bottles of Viraloid from vyotech they cost me 14 bux today was my first day on it,Im 44 175lbs have been workin out for over ten years on and off,have been working out now for a little over 2 years.Ive done m1t ,also done the real stuff.im curious to see if this stuff is any good.I could do a log if anyone thinks its a good idea,just let me know!I have no affilliation with the company..

Posted by: Pinskinator Jun 15 2005, 05:10 PM

I am replying to everyone who is interested in the new test enhancer Viraloid I have been taking the product for about 25 days now and have not seen any noticable results in strength or size. I lift 6 days a week i am 200 pounds and have a 350 pound bench i take the sport seriously and i was lookuing for an alternative to the 1-AD all of us loved. I took 4 pills a day 2after lunch and 2 after dinner, luckly it was a free sample. everyone is differnt but i did not respond to Viraloid at all like they claimed in the article. Just thought i would let any u guys know that were wondering if it really is the shit.

Posted by: Charles77622 Aug 12 2005, 11:45 AM

I received Vyraloid from Vyotech for helping them with their booth. I am always skeptical on any product that makes claims that you and I know don't happen. My system is very sensitive now because I am 3 weeks away from the North American pro qualifier. I have done the pro-hormones and pro-steroids. The Vyraloid responded in my system similiar to the pro-hormone Mag-10 and M1T. I got significantly stronger (even on a reduced calorie diet), my water retention was high as I naturally hold water, which took away from my sharpness. I stopped the product, but I will definately be taking the product on a non-contest diet as I also powerlift off season. The Vyraloid will also keep you muscle bellies round, so if you like to do high reps this is something that will help keep you looking full.

Sexual Activity is up
Acne is up
Mood Swings-can't tell because on low cal diet-so naturally moody
Sleeping-great
Workout-intense

Hope this helps

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Aug 12 2005, 12:34 PM

QUOTE (Charles77622 @ Aug 12 2005, 12:45 PM)

I received Vyraloid from Vyotech for helping them with their booth. I am always skeptical on any product that makes claims that you and I know don't happen. My system is very sensitive now because I am 3 weeks away from the North American pro qualifier. I have done the pro-hormones and pro-steroids. The Vyraloid responded in my system similiar to the pro-hormone Mag-10 and M1T. I got significantly stronger (even on a reduced calorie diet), my water retention was high as I naturally hold water, which took away from my sharpness. I stopped the product, but I will definately be taking the product on a non-contest diet as I also powerlift off season. The Vyraloid will also keep you muscle bellies round, so if you like to do high reps this is something that will help keep you looking full.

Sexual Activity is up
Acne is up
Mood Swings-can't tell because on low cal diet-so naturally moody
Sleeping-great
Workout-intense

Hope this helps

you are comparing Viraloid to M1T?

What dosages were you taking and for how long? What are your stats?

Posted by: rich_55 Aug 12 2005, 01:18 PM

QUOTE (Charles77622 @ Aug 12 2005, 11:45 AM)

I have done the pro-hormones and pro-steroids. The Vyraloid responded in my system similiar to the pro-hormone Mag-10 and M1T.

Viraloid didn't do much for me man, so I guess I didn't miss out not taking M1T.

My second month taking the product (after recovering from illness the first) I put on a whopping 2 pounds and made modest increases in strength. Mind you not all of that was muscle. No libido increase or acne increase. $90/month!!!!

I'm looking forward to trying Fenutest and ActivaTe. I'll be inquiring about both products at the fitness expo this weekend since I'm 9 weeks out and could use a natural boost.

Posted by: Slayer of Souls Aug 12 2005, 03:55 PM

thanks for the update Rich

Posted by: Hardgain Aug 12 2005, 09:20 PM

I had just acquired my Viraloid around the time I jooined this forum. I experienced nothing that would indicate that it had any effect of interest to a lifter/bb . Occassionally I experienced an addtional pump or intensity during a particular workout but this was probably the NO and Creatine, they being of a quality source.
I have been trying to improve my body comp; so when I started I was 198 and one month later I was 196 with lower body fat, most of which I credit to diet and excersize

I am 6'0"

Posted by: MikeHealth Sep 6 2005, 05:56 PM

I've put everything under the sun in my body. GH, Test, Avavar, Winnie you name it i've done it. Very skeptical about trying the new herbal alternatives. Not much has worked since the andro ban. I've tried VPX, Gaspari, San and Methly 1 T and whatever else is out there.

I had seen ads in various muscle magazines touting the new amazing anabolic compounds. I'm the type of guy who will try anything once.

I've been on Viraloid and Nitrobolic for 4 months now. I just recently started on the 17 HD.

Let me start with the Viraloid: When I began taking Viraloid I was 225lb. I am currently 240 lbs. I've noticed a significant increase in strength at about the 14 day mark. My typical flat bench workout was 10-12 reps at 245lbs I am currently repping out 275lbs. I could go up in wieght but I tore a bicep muscle in the past. I don't want to do it again. At about 30 days into my program I noticed lean, mature & hard muscle. My libido was definitely icreased as well. I did experience a little acne on my face and back but nothing to be alarmed about.

Nitrobolic allowed me to maintain strength without fatigue. I noticed my workouts were a little sluggish. I needed something to boost me up. I don't know if it was mental or not but Nitrobolic definitely pushed me through my workouts. I'm not generally a vascular guy but I definitely saw veins in places I've never seen before. Across my chest and back. Pretty sick. I noticed these changes in my body immediatly after using it. What impresses me the most are the pumps. I get killer pumps with this product.

I just recently started the 17 HD. The only thing I can comment on this product is that it lights me up. It feels almost like ephedra but you are not jittery. My eyes
would bug out on ephedra. 17 HD hops me up but keeps me focused. I'll let you know what kind of anabolic effects if any, it has in a few weeks.

There are alot of people given this company Vyotech a bad rap on this site. The results I've experienced have been positive overall. Try these products or don't. It makes no difference to me. Just wanted to share my thoughts!

Posted by: bomb_r2 Sep 6 2005, 06:06 PM

SPAM !

Posted by: rich_55 Sep 6 2005, 07:11 PM

QUOTE (MikeHealth @ Sep 6 2005, 05:56 PM)

I've put everything under the sun in my body. GH, Test, Avavar, Winnie you name it i've done it. Very skeptical about trying the new herbal alternatives. Not much has worked since the andro ban. I've tried VPX, Gaspari, San and Methly 1 T and whatever else is out there.

I had seen ads in various muscle magazines touting the new amazing anabolic compounds. I'm the type of guy who will try anything once.

I've been on Viraloid and Nitrobolic for 4 months now. I just recently started on the 17 HD.

Let me start with the Viraloid: When I began taking Viraloid I was 225lb. I am currently 240 lbs. I've noticed a significant increase in strength at about the 14 day mark. My typical flat bench workout was 10-12 reps at 245lbs I am currently repping out 275lbs. I could go up in wieght but I tore a bicep muscle in the past. I don't want to do it again. At about 30 days into my program I noticed lean, mature & hard muscle. My libido was definitely icreased as well. I did experience a little acne on my face and back but nothing to be alarmed about.

Nitrobolic allowed me to maintain strength without fatigue. I noticed my workouts were a little sluggish. I needed something to boost me up. I don't know if it was mental or not but Nitrobolic definitely pushed me through my workouts. I'm not generally a vascular guy but I definitely saw veins in places I've never seen before. Across my chest and back. Pretty sick. I noticed these changes in my body immediatly after using it. What impresses me the most are the pumps. I get killer pumps with this product.

I just recently started the 17 HD. The only thing I can comment on this product is that it lights me up. It feels almost like ephedra but you are not jittery. My eyes
would bug out on ephedra. 17 HD hops me up but keeps me focused. I'll let you know what kind of anabolic effects if any, it has in a few weeks.

There are alot of people given this company Vyotech a bad rap on this site. The results I've experienced have been positive overall. Try these products or don't. It makes no difference to me. Just wanted to share my thoughts!

One post and its about the efficacy of Viraloid...hmm??? I believe there is a few posts like this in this thread alone. Don't be a sucker!

Posted by: MikeHealth Sep 7 2005, 01:06 PM

I'm a mortgage broker not a professional bodybuilder. I do take my workouts serious. I don't regard myself as a sucker. I tried these products and they seemed to be working for me. Who are you, the only person with an opinion that matters?

I have no affiliations with the makers of these products. I can give a flying fcuk if you like them or anybody else does. I just like their stuff.

Take it for what it's worth.

Posted by: tommyg87 Sep 7 2005, 02:10 PM

i have a few friends who fooled around with viraloid. they used it for about a 1.5 months and didnt get anything out of it. from seeing them i would say its a waste of money.

Posted by: rich_55 Sep 7 2005, 02:40 PM

QUOTE (MikeHealth @ Sep 7 2005, 01:06 PM)

I'm a mortgage broker not a professional bodybuilder. I do take my workouts serious. I don't regard myself as a sucker. I tried these products and they seemed to be working for me. Who are you, the only person with an opinion that matters?

I have no affiliations with the makers of these products. I can give a flying fcuk if you like them or anybody else does. I just like their stuff.

Take it for what it's worth.

Thanks for you opinion, but it is HIGHLY SKEPTICAL if you first post is a product review of one that has not received any positive reviews from the regulars, but only from SPAMMERS which is what we assume you are.

Now stop replying to this post, so everyone can forget about this product.

Posted by: Michael59218 Sep 19 2005, 08:54 PM

I suggest using it as PCR to Methyl-Masterdrol from Legal Gear!!!!!