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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 08:35 PM
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I need help fast i just came out of a 5 week cycle of norderm/4 derm,
i started my pct about 10 days ago, i been using 6 oxo and tribex.
but for some reason Mr happy is not coming back to life, and when it does it dosent last too long, i know this sound funny, but trust me this is really scary.
Any help will be Appreciated.
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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 08:45 PM
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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (mike57161 @ Jan 5 2005, 08:35 PM)
I need help fast i just came out of a 5 week cycle of norderm/4 derm,
i started my pct about 10 days ago, i been using 6 oxo and tribex.
but for some reason Mr happy is not coming back to life, and when it does it dosent last too long, i know this sound funny, but trust me this is really scary.
Any help will be Appreciated.

But hey you're still big and strong and that's what you were going for , right? Why nitpick?

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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 08:56 PM
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Mr. happ working or not is not the immediate problem.

If your nuts have shrunken you have to get them back. Try some nolva but if it does not work get some HCG to speed up recovery or see a doctor.

500iu of HCG injected intramuscular ED for 10-20 days.

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QUOTE (GORT @ Jan 5 2005, 08:56 PM)
Mr. happ working or not is not the immediate problem.

If your nuts have shrunken you have to get them back. Try some nolva but if it does not work get some HCG to speed up recovery or see a doctor.

500iu of HCG injected intramuscular ED for 10-20 days.

2nd that!....I am not too familiar with the legal anabolics but if its like "deca dick" then its a prolactin issue,but dont quote me because I don't knwo anything about 4derm

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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 09:53 PM
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QUOTE (GORT @ Jan 5 2005, 08:56 PM)
Mr. happ working or not is not the immediate problem.

If your nuts have shrunken you have to get them back. Try some nolva but if it does not work get some HCG to speed up recovery or see a doctor.

500iu of HCG injected intramuscular ED for 10-20 days.

since it's already post cycle, I like the idea above, but would opt for a protocol like this:

250i.u. a day for a week and nolva at 40mg
after a week stop the HCG but continue with nolva at 40mg
then for weeks 3&4 use 20mg of nolva. You should be good to go after about 3 days.

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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 10:02 PM
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dude... its been 10 days. its not a fucken lightswitch that the PCT just "throws" and you're good... it takes a little time to ease back into things.

stick to ur PCT and let things happen

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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 10:13 PM
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you guys ever here of clomid.....being facetious of course....that is usually a staple for most PCTS
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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE (sdf42450 @ Jan 5 2005, 10:02 PM)
dude... its been 10 days. its not a fucken lightswitch that the PCT just "throws" and you're good... it takes a little time to ease back into things.

stick to ur PCT and let things happen

I can agree with this.

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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 11:13 PM
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ya ur whining about nothing it takes longer htan 10 days giv it a good 3 weeks and u'll b fine
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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 11:35 PM
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btw hod old are u? and did u hav any other side effects?
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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 11:45 PM
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ive just recently experienced that side effect. i was with my girl the other day (two days before i ended my M1T cycle) and went limp in the act. needless to say i felt like shit and was pretty pissed at myself. thankfully i started on my PCT today with 6-oxo and hopefully everything will go back to normal soon. That was the first time i had something like that happen to me and this was my second cycle , third week into it. To me something like that doesnt make pro hormones worth it. maintaining a strong labido is much more important to me and my girl then having a couple more rips in the mirror.

I know i didnt need M1T to gain what i have in the last two and a half months. i actually got better results and less scary side effects with creatine. Prohormones will not be entering my body again but i had to try it out of curiousity.

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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 11:53 PM
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u should stack with4-ad, that will giv u bak ur libido, and plus some
plus i hear the 4derm acts almost like a pharamone, so u should notice more affection from ur girl
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Posted: Jan 6 2005, 12:04 AM
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Posted: Jan 6 2005, 12:07 AM
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Posted: Jan 6 2005, 12:08 AM
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umm... no speakofrancais? lol
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Posted: Jan 6 2005, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE (BigBadGreekdude @ Jan 6 2005, 12:04 AM)
4 derm will ultimately further supress your natural test after use. Its a nice kicker for those on PH or lagging but it is not a PCT product.

You need nolva and 6oxo,

maybe clomid and if things are real bad HCG. End of story.

i was told 6-oxo alone would most likely be sufficient for PCT. why would someone need Nolva too ? wouldnt it just be one or the other?

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Posted: Jan 6 2005, 12:11 AM
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i think 6-oxo should b fine
its thinks like m1t, which is just a steroid with an alias, which need the nolva
i guess nolva is stronger, i dont personally know, but the 6-oxo should be sufficient for what u ran.
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Posted: Jan 6 2005, 12:16 AM
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People shut down different amounts from PH/AAS and also respond differently to different PCT's.

Hell, some people can go 12 weeks on test prop with no anti-E's and get no gyno - and others get gyno from anything they touch. Everyone is different.

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