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Posted: Dec 7 2004, 06:01 PM
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This is my first and last introduction cycle to pro-hormones and after much research have decided that 1, 4 andro to be the safest for my application....I have been lifting for about 2 years...weigh about 155-160lbs...Literature and other topics suggest that nothing short of a 6-12 week cycle be used due to effect induced by 1, 4 andro so I have compiled a 10 week cycle...
During cycle I plan to use 400-600mg of ALA daily, vit c, multi-vitamin...
I have purchased E-Form for PCT but am open to suggestions regarding PCT/on cycle protection...

Weeks 1-7... 600mg daily (3 doses)
Weeks 8 and 9...400mg daily (2 doses)
Week 10... 200mg daily (1 dose)

Right now I am planning on following up post cycle with E-Form, Green Tea (Lean Green), ZMA, Tribulus that I have on hand... help and advice welcome... thanks?

Possibly comment on dosage... alternative... etc..
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Posted: Dec 7 2004, 06:13 PM
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or perhaps a shorter 6 week cycle of...

weeks 1-4...600mg (3 doses)
week 5... 500mg (2 doses)
week 6.... 245mg (1 dose)

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Posted: Dec 7 2004, 06:25 PM
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I am not a fan of pyramiding...even if this is your first time with a substance, start at a decent dose and run it all the way through rather then pyramiding down.

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Posted: Dec 7 2004, 08:06 PM
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how long do u think the cycle should run? do u think the precautions during/post cycle are enough....?

Oh yah and to those reading... I forgot I have purchased Pro Liver from Mike (1Fast) so would that be best during or post cycle... i am thinking post for liver enzyme recovery...
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Posted: Dec 8 2004, 12:30 AM
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how long do u think the cycle should run? do u think the precautions during/post cycle are enough....?

Oh yah and to those reading... I forgot I have purchased Pro Liver from Mike (1Fast) so would that be best during or post cycle... i am thinking post for liver enzyme recovery...


I have heard of people running 1,4AD for upwards of 10-12 weeks with little to no ill effects. So your timeline is fine.

I do not think you PCT is any good. Grab at a bare minimum 6-oxo, but I personally recommend Nolva for this length of a cycle. I have a love/hate relationship with Clomid, but it get the job done.

Run your pro-liver, during and after, not one or the other. You only have one liver and sure 1,4AD is not too liver toxic but why take any chance at all.

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Posted: Dec 8 2004, 02:43 PM
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could I run Mike's Androstenetrione Powder as opposed to 6-oxo and just down it at doses for PCT:
week 1: 600mg
week 2: 450mg
week 3: 300mg
week 4: 200mg
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