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> Has anyone done m1t/4ad stack?
Posted: Feb 9 2004, 03:28 PM
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unsure.gif I just would like to know if anyone did that stack and how were their results shut down. how was their pct and so on. alright later guyz

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 05:37 PM
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I plan on running on cycle consisting of methyl-1 and Methyl 5aa with 4ad.

Not for another month or so though.

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Posted: Feb 9 2004, 10:38 PM
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methyl 5aa i think it will hurt your liver big time better take some milk thistle with that shit

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Posted: Feb 10 2004, 06:08 AM
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QUOTE (LM1332 @ Feb 9 2004, 03:28 PM)
unsure.gif I just would like to know if anyone did that stack and how were their results shut down. how was their pct and so on. alright later guyz

I tried stacking the M1T w LGP hydroxy test (a transdermal by Legal Gear) wich also has some 4ad in it. I was pretty impressed by the results, until I went off that is, all I had to run post cycle was some tribestan by sopharma. I did 4 squirts daily of the LGP stack which incidentally has only 100 or 200 mgs or something like that of the 4-ad component. But, thats what the label said should be the max) and I took 20 mgs of the M1T a day, I experimented w\ the dosage a bit the 3rd week, going as high as 6 squirts, of the LGP and 30 mgs of the M1T. By the third week I was failing at similar rep ranges on each respective exercise as I had the first week ONLY WITH 10 to 20 pounds more on almost every lift that is. My body weight went from 236 to 247, then crashed back down to 240 once id been off for a few days, and may go down some more, hopefully not though.
Being that the strength decrease was minimal in comparison to the weight decrease, one could theorize that much of the gains were water weight, but 20 pound strength increases dont lie. xtra water\fat does not afford THAT much leverage advantage. Still I found it hard to train and eat on this cycle, my appetite was low (for me), and I was so lethargic that I missed or postponed at least 1 or 2 sessions. I had to rest more than normal, but by listening to my body, I was able to generate alot of mental intensity once I finally did finish sleeping and hit the weights. I was impressed that I grew despite making those little errors that I did, (I missed a couple meals too). If you do this or a similar stack, id say wait until you can stock up on something good to run post cycle.
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Posted: Feb 10 2004, 12:16 PM
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yes M-5aa is toxic to the liver. I don't plan on over doing it though. M-5aa will be used for preworkout on workout days only at 20mg a day, 10mg of methyl-1t and about 400mg of 4ad via transdermal. I plan on training around 4 days a week. If you do the math, that equals about 150mg of methyls a week, averaging 21mg of Methyls a day. Almost everyone is running 20mg of Methyl-1 alone. So, I don't see a reason to be VERY alarmed. I will use liver protection though consisting of NAC, Milk Thistle, and r-ala for antioxidant purposes. Here is my plan:

10mg M-1-t
20mg m-5aa preworkout on workout days only
2 applications of 2 squirts 4derm
--total of 19 days (beginning on monday ending on friday of the third week)

I will add that I will include formastane during the last ten days of the on-cycle. I will throw in 4g of formastane powder in the bottle of 4derm, apply it in the chest and upper abdominal region.

As for PCT, I will use PaCT (bsl) and Tribex-500. Follow that up with Red Kat.

Vitex will also be used during cycle.

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Posted: Feb 11 2004, 05:33 AM
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thank you guys

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