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Posted: Nov 9 2004, 06:10 PM
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Good post.

I've been bulking for the winter. But I have more fat than I need. Which I need to lose.

These have probably been posted, but i'll post these in here.


Protein Shake Recipes

Apple Pie
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add three tablespoon of apple pie filling, 1/4 teaspoon of ground allspice, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Crispy Hippie
1 cup of 2% milk. One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add 2 tablespoons non-fat french vanilla creamer, 1/4 cup low fat granola, 1 frozen banana (peel & wrap in plastic prior to freezing), 1 tablespoon of low-fat peanut butter, 2 tablespoons sugar-free Nestle's Quick. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds.

Banana Split
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add 1/2 banana, 1/4 cup chopped pineapple, two frozen strawberries, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Black & White
Freezer 1 cup of 2% milk. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add 2 tablespoons non-fat french vanilla creamer, and 2 tablespoons Hershey's chocolate syrup. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Double Chocolate Fudge
Add 8 oz of Non-fat milk or water. One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add 1/2 packet of Swiss Miss fat-free hot cocoa mix and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Blueberry Blast
Add 8 oz of Non-fat milk or water. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. 1/2 cup cup frozen or fresh blueberries and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds . For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Creamy Coconut
Add 8 oz of pineapple juice. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. 1/2 tsp. coconut extract, 1 oz. shredded coconut, unsweetened and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds . For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Chocolate Peanut Butter Cup
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add one heaping tablespoon of all-natural peanut butter and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe

Chocolate Mocha Mint
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add 1 tablespoon of General Foods International Coffees Swiss Mocha sugar-free, fat-free instant coffee, three drops of peppermint extract, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Chocolate Cover Cherry
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add three drops of cherry extract and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Cookies & Cream
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add two drops of peppermint extract and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. Then, add three low-fat chocolate wafers, blend at low speed for ten seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe

Cinnamon Roll
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add 1/4 teaspoon ground cinnamon, 1/2 tsp. fat-free Butter Buds, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Egg Nog Delight
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add 1/4 teaspoon of ground allspice, 1 plan graham cracker (four small squares), and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Hunky Monkey
1 cup of 2% milk. One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add 1 frozen banana (peel & wrap in plastic prior to freezing), 1 tablespoon low-fat peanut butter, 3-4 chocolate wafers, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe

Frozen Orange Glace
Add 8 oz. of orange juice. One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add one ripe banana, and four ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Jamoca Nut
1 cup of 2% milk. One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add 2 teaspoon of instant coffee,2 tablespoons of non-fat hazelnut creamer, 2 tablespoons sugar-free Nestle's Quik, and five ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Omega 3 Supreme
(this is a great drink for the joints) Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. Add one scoop of vanilla protein powder. One tablespoon of flaxseed oil <http://www.bodyandfitness.com/Products/Health/general.htm> , 1/3 oz. almonds, slivered, one teaspoons vanilla extract and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Orange Cremesicle
1 cup 2% milk, One scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add 2 tablespoons non-fat french vanilla creamer, 2 teaspoons frozen orange juice concentrate, 1 teaspoon vanilla extract, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Peaches & Cream
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. Add one scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add 1/2 cup frozen unsweetened peaches, two tablespoons of Fat-Free Cool Whip, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe

Peach Berry Cobbler
1 cup 2% milk, One scoop of chocolate protein powder. Add 2 tablespoons non-fat french vanilla creamer, 1 teaspoon vanilla extract, 3-4 frozen strawberries, 4-5 slices frozen peaches, 2-3 low-fat vanilla wafer cookies, 1/4 teaspoon cinnamon. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Strawberry Banana Dream
Add 8 oz. of Non-Fat milk or water. Add one scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add three frozen strawberries, 1/2 banana, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Strawberry Shortcake
1 cup of 2% milk. Add one scoop of strawberry protein powder. Add 2 tablespoons non-fat french vanilla creamer. 3-4 frozen strawberries, 3-4 low fat vanilla wafers. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Tropical Passion
Add 6 oz. Papaya juice with 2 oz. of water. Add one scoop of vanilla protein powder. Add 1/4 cup pineapple, 1/2 banana, and three ice cubes. Blend at high speed for 45 seconds. For Muscle gain - Double recipe.

Mighty Mocha Madness
Add 1/2 cup nonfat frozen yogurt, 1/2 cup espresso coffee (prepared), 2-5 ice cubes, 2 scoops Chocolate Protein. Place ingredients in a blender. Blend for 1 minute or until desired consistency.

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Posted: Nov 9 2004, 06:13 PM
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This David!! I am going to print those out!

BTW if you play with the numbers with this diet is also serves as a cutting diet....

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Posted: Nov 9 2004, 06:46 PM
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My wife is a female BB and has never done a true bulking phase. Should a women use the same diet. She wants to put on some good mass because she is moving from regional contests to a national contest. The only caveat is she doesn't want to put on very much fat because she gets cellulite on her upper thigh that is hard to get off until she is about 7-8% bf. if you want to check out some pictures to get an idea of her body type you can check out Her web sitel
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Posted: Nov 9 2004, 06:52 PM
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Rerun my girlfreind lives on this diet,but I have her backed down to maintence calories on it right now...She has no problems at all and is nice,and lean..Give it a shot there is no reason a female can't eat like this..Just have her play with the macros thats all....I will have to check out her site...

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Posted: Nov 9 2004, 11:05 PM
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How does 2 a day workouts affect the planned diet. Also how do recovery / post workout meals count as compared to non work out days with total calorie consumption? i.e. are they extra meals or, as they are in my current diet, or are they eaten every day.
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Posted: Dec 5 2004, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Dave876 @ Sep 30 2004, 10:09 PM)
Oatmeal(not instant)


i've been eating plain instant oatmeal with a heaping scoop of ids low carb protein for breakfast for the past few months.. can you explain why instant oatmeal isn't the best choice?

also, if i'm going a little lower on the carbs in hopes of staying a little leaner, where should i make up the calories? protein or fat or both?
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Posted: Dec 5 2004, 10:33 AM
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Instant is more processed then old fashioned or steel cut oats so the GI rating is higher,you don't want your oats to be of the high GI variety so stick to atleast old fashioned oats..

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Posted: Dec 27 2004, 02:44 PM
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Hey,

Thanks for the info.

I like to train very early in the morning, how would the layout of your diet look like?

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Posted: Dec 27 2004, 02:47 PM
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About like this:
M1 P+C
Train
M2 P+C
M3 P+C
M4 P+C
M5-M8 P+F

Make a slight transistion from P+C to P+F as in make meal 5 more protein and just a bit of fat then after that you can consume more fats...

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Posted: Jan 5 2005, 06:44 AM
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I'm such a noob at good diets. How could someone whos workout times varies follow this diet? Because of my work schedule, I'll either workout around 8pm for a few days or 12pm for a few days.

Also, the only trouble spot I really have is my stomach...got a little too much fat on the tummy biggrin.gif Would this diet not be a good idea if I'm trying to loose my lil belly?
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Posted: Jan 17 2005, 08:43 PM
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Hey dave

I dont get to the gym until 11pm, how would that meal cycle work for me with my schedule.

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Posted: Jan 27 2005, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE (Dave876 @ Nov 9 2004, 06:13 PM)
This David!! I am going to print those out!

BTW if you play with the numbers with this diet is also serves as a cutting diet....

what would you change the % x bw to for the fat and carbs

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Dave, it's a good idea basing things off of the GI but remember the GI changes when you combine foods, so a High GI food changes when introduced to other foods (i.e. P+C, or P+F). As to you guys who think that there is too much fat in the diet, you need fat especially unsaturated fats from almonds and flax to keep tesoterone levels high. I can't remember if you recommended P+C post workout or not, but before a meal one should take in P+C and at night before bed and first meal of the day should be P+F, since they are the slowest digesting

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If i get up at 5:30 am, workout (light abs) for 20mins till 6am (it takes me 10min to come around and i grab some water) and WO at 2:30pm - 3:20ish b4 going to bed at 9pm.... What should my meals look like?

-wow that sounds confusing....too much info in 2 lines.

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Hey whats the best way for me to get big quicker and easier. After i get finished liftin I eat a can of tuna and i drink 2-3 raw eggs and take my protein shakes, help me do somethin after i get done liftin to make me bigger.
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Posted: Feb 11 2005, 10:00 AM
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Well you can start by reading this aticle.Your post workout nutrition is not right and this article will help explain what to do.

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How much before you workout do you take your pre-workout meal? You say small version of post workout shake so 15 - 25 g whey protein and 30 - 40 g dextrose? or 50 g protein w/ 15 - 20g destrose?

Here is my schedule is this OK?

6am(breakfast) - P + C (egg whites and large bowl of oatmeal, multi-vit)
9am(snack) - P + C (cottage cheese, whey and small bowl of oatmeal)
12pm (lunch) - P + F (chicken, vegetable and nuts)
2pm(snack) - P + F (tuna and nuts)
4:30(pre w/o) - P + C ???? (whey, small dex and CEE) or (chicken and rice) ????
5:30 - 6:30 - WORKOUT
6:30(post w/o) - P + C (50g whey, 70g dextrose, CEE)
8:00(dinner) - P + C chicken and large bowl rice, multi-vit
10pm(pre-bed) - P + F - (cottage cheese and nuts)

Last question, do the carbs in the post workout shake count toward your total daily carbs count. If I'm suposed to eat 320g carbs per day, does that include the 70 in my post-workout shake or not?

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Working on setting up an 8 week clean bulk followed by 8 week cut since I have my brother's wedding to go to in July on a cruise ship.

Edited some stuff since I've found the answers. Any help on the pre-wrokout shake and I should be all set.
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Can anyone help me out with a meal order of P+C and P+F for lifting around 7-8-9PM at night.

Previously, this would work very well because I lift around 4pm, which it seems as if the layout was made perfect for. Problem is, I got a friend who really wants to lose weight/get into shape and if he joins my gym, he doesn't want to go alone.

I was thinking...

P+C - Usually 2 cups Kashi Crunch & cup of milk.
P+C
P+F
Preworkout shake - 20g whey straight?
PWO - 40g whey, 40g dextrose, 5g creatine
P+C - Brown rice or black beans and rice + carrots + turkey sandwich?
P+F - ..??
P - Casein shake, bedtime?

But looking at that, it looks like only having 4 meals before my workout at 8pm would be a craptastic idea ohmy.gif .

Insight needed.
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I'm terribly sorry if some people feel that I am being a complete ass for asking this...but here it goes...

Are there any threads or stickies lying around that give a layout similar to this one but goes for a "cutting diet" as opposed to a "bulking diet"...if there are no threads, could someone point me in the direction of where i could get a layout of a cutting diet.

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my guess would be pretty much the same as bulking except you cut the quantity of carbs down in your protein + carb meals. At least that is what I'm going to try when I start my cut. Curently for bulking I have P + C for my first 3 meals, then P+F, pre-workout shake, post workout shake, P+C and P + F (pre-bed) for cutting it will be: P + C, P+C, P+F, P+F, pre workout, post workout, P+C, P+F

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