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Posted: Sep 14 2008, 09:57 PM
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So maybe I just read too much...but here's what I'm thinking. I have a couple of bottles of P-Max left over and I've never done a pulse cycle. So start a natural test booster and kick the P-Max after a week and pulse for 6 weeks, running the t-booster the whole time and through PCT. Since the P-Max is 15 mg pills I'll be dosing at 45 mg. Feel free to grill me if this is a horrible idea.<br>
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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 10:42 AM
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Some Post Cycle Support on the off days of the pulse would be wise. How long are you planning running this. smile.gif

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 11:55 AM
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ive looked @ p-max for pulsing also... it was not suggested as a good idea for pulsing.

http://forum.anabolicx.com/index.php?showtopic=4061

from my understanding pulsing is gud w/compounds w/a short half life, example: d-bol, epistane, superdrol

p-max has a 12hr half life which im guessin wud be more challenging to avoid shutdown.

if shutdown is not a concern for u and ur guna run a normal pct w/a serm. im guessing pulsin p-max wud be gud to minimize other sides.

people hav pulsed p-max before & made decent weight & strength gains

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE (workingatit46 @ Sep 15 2008, 10:42 AM)
Some Post Cycle Support on the off days of the pulse would be wise. How long are you planning running this. smile.gif

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i wud also use DHEA & Fenugreek.

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 12:02 PM)
the whole PULSING concept seems like it shouldnt work.

how can your HPTA recover so quickly, and then pound it down again, and again....



In my humble opinion....

run it straight through, moderate dose, dont look back. Then PCT, then equal time off, at a minimum.

pulsing..... please

u shud listen2 this guy... becuz he says it "seems" like it doest work. fuck logs, blood reports & results from actual evidence.


@the same time im not tellin u that u shud pulse. if u plan2 to go the pulsing route im jus sharing w/u what i have acknowledge from this method.


honestly, me personally i wud not pulse p-max but run it as a straight threw. it wud be2 challenging to avoid shut down & ur most likely to get shut down if u pulse w/p-max.

if i where2 pulse p-max, i wud only do it to minimize sides. i wud not expect to avoid shutdown.

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 12:55 PM
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The biggest benefit to pulsing, in my opinion, is that the duration of the cycle can be extended. Shut down is likely or inevitable, depending on what you are taking. The disadvantage to most orals is that you can only take them for short stretches. That makes keeping the gains very difficult. With pulsing, however, you can run them longer and allow the gains to "stick" so to speak. I have pulsed Epi as long as 10 weeks with good gains and all kept. Again, I don't think that pulsing will completely avoid shut down but you will have to argue long and hard to convince me that it doesn't slow it down - I know it does from personal experience.
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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 12:37 PM)
mustang six nine home, first of all, you are a faggot.



second of all, pulsing is not a good idea, if you want your HPTA to recover after cycling on and off for weeks, you fucking retard.


yeah, listen to me, because I dont have nearly ten years of taking steroids on and off, I dont know anything. rolleyes.gif


and stop writing like a fucking 10 year old. "shud" should "becuz" ect... how old are you? fucking moron.

wow. ur choice of words 2wards me really reveals ur true intelegance.

ironically u sound like a homo on the rag. homie ur basically wat u are complaining about... & that is a fagot. a dirtie fagot that shits in the shower. that is fuckin NASTIE. LMFAO.


but dude... there r studies logs, blood reports & evidence that prove this w/the proper compounds. u cant deny actual evidence.

pulsing is jus a method that is a option. its also a option that people look away from becoz gains hav also been reported2 be not as great.


& 4 the way i write, i dun giv a fuck about such stupid little things like a little queer. ill fucken write watever way i want2 write becoz it saves me time. its jus a informal BB forum. its not like im emailing2 clients @work.




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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE (RepMeister @ Sep 15 2008, 12:55 PM)
The biggest benefit to pulsing, in my opinion, is that the duration of the cycle can be extended. Shut down is likely or inevitable, depending on what you are taking. The disadvantage to most orals is that you can only take them for short stretches. That makes keeping the gains very difficult. With pulsing, however, you can run them longer and allow the gains to "stick" so to speak. I have pulsed Epi as long as 10 weeks with good gains and all kept. Again, I don't think that pulsing will completely avoid shut down but you will have to argue long and hard to convince me that it doesn't slow it down - I know it does from personal experience.

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 12:46 PM)
If you think running a "test booster" or fenugreek or DHEA while taking pheramax, or any other steroid prevents shutdown, then you are just straight up retarded. Even taking nolvadex every other week or however you *pulse* wont prevent shutdown.



laugh.gif comical

LMFAO




And mustang homo 69, look at your avatar laugh.gif you fucking flamer, how gay!!! you need some test injections stat

dude ive already shared my views w/ p-max & pulsing

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 01:03 PM
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ya my avatar is fuckin way2 friendly. i hav my reasons tho. lol u gota hav luff (no homo)

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 01:02 PM)
Ok, so Ill pulse steroid "X" for three weeks. This shuts down your HPTA. Then Ill just take steroid X for another three weeks, then let my HPTA slightly recover, in the meantime cortisol and other hormones are out of whack in that brief off time. Then cycle Steroid X again...

how lame, honestly.

for what? to extend your cycle? not very smart, fellas.



you are much better off cycling a steroid for 6 weeks at a minimum, to get RESULTS. A LITTLE SOMETHING CALLED RESULTS. how the fuck do you get results if you take a steroid for two weeks on and off? its comical. Just as your body starts to respond and grow, you stop? then take fenugreek and DHEA? how fucking gay laugh.gif

i honestly dun feel like teachin becoz its not a method that is interest2 u.

unless u really want me to explain2 u wat i hav acknowledge.

dude if u feel better w/ straight threws go ahead. ur right its better for weight & strength gains then the results u wud get from pulsing.


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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 01:48 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 01:42 PM)
go for it dude


who me?! go for wat!?





QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 01:42 PM)
  HRT is in your furure  wink.gif

ok...if thinkin that makes u feel better huh.gif

wher's the luff? wub.gif



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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 02:39 PM
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QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 02:22 PM)
I just dropped a "luff" load on your lady  wink.gif


joseph23573 DROPS LOADS ON HIS MOM!!! ya ur mom called me about that shit u sick fuck. damn i thought u takin craps in the shower was bad enuff. i hope thats @ur own facilities & not @ sum gym. dun worrie that shit is over w/me & ur mom. i dun kno about u...



QUOTE (joseph23573 @ Sep 15 2008, 02:22 PM)

pulse, run straight through..... whatever  laugh.gif  fuck it




yea stop w/that shit u sound like a fag....

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 02:47 PM
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joseph23573 I have tried to talk to this guy before and usually doesnt work... not even worth the effort.

Mustang..whatever... where did you get your half life for PPlex from my research the the half lives are:

Epi: 6 hrs
SD/Mdrol:8 hrs
PPlex:9hrs

You might be thinking of Hdrol which would not be good for pulsing due to its half life being around 16 hrs. Which means total clearance takes 80 hrs (for you guys that didnt do well in chemistry class: clearance = halflive x 5).

So based on half lives they are "kinda" close, especially Mdrol and PPlex... so based on that how is PPlex not good for pulsing?

I agree, not a fan of pulsing. But can see why some people like it. My view is just run a cycle and use proper PCT and enjoy your gains.
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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 02:52 PM
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QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 15 2008, 12:58 PM)
but dude... there r studies logs, blood reports & evidence that prove this w/the proper compounds. u cant deny actual evidence.


"there have been studies"??????

would love to see these, with control groups and stat data and z scores or t tests that prove a stat difference and disput a null hypothesis, LOL!!!

please send me the links to these studies, thanks!
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QUOTE (Stephen57799 @ Sep 15 2008, 02:47 PM)
joseph23573 I have tried to talk to this guy before and usually doesnt work... not even worth the effort.

Mustang..whatever... where did you get your half life for PPlex from my research the the half lives are:

Epi: 6 hrs
SD/Mdrol:8 hrs
PPlex:9hrs

You might be thinking of Hdrol which would not be good for pulsing due to its half life being around 16 hrs.  Which means total clearance takes 80 hrs (for you guys that didnt do well in chemistry class:  clearance = halflive x 5).

So based on half lives they are "kinda" close, especially Mdrol and PPlex... so based on that how is PPlex not good for pulsing?

I agree, not a fan of pulsing.  But can see why some people like it.  My view is just run a cycle and use proper PCT and enjoy your gains.

u hav better things2 do then obsesses over people that jus simply dun agree w/everything u say? dun get me wrong theirs lots i do agree w/u but seriously get over it. move on... its gettin weird


look here

http://forum.anabolicx.com/index.php?showtopic=4061

p-max is 10-12 hr half life, if not sorry.... correct me if im wrong. sorry man cant find the links, but if the half life is shorter show me prove. thats actually beneficial2 me.

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Posted: Sep 15 2008, 02:57 PM
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http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/89...mone-chart.html

my info...

didnt see a mention of a half life of PPlex or Pmax in yours but just glanced through it.
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QUOTE (Stephen57799 @ Sep 15 2008, 02:57 PM)
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/89...mone-chart.html

my info...

didnt see a mention of a half life of PPlex or Pmax in yours but just glanced through it.

u shud learn how2 read. i hav informed u that i cant find the links for half live of PP, jus a link of PP not being a gud idea.


b4 i go threw ur link does it state PP half life?

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QUOTE (Troy_Pierce @ Sep 14 2008, 09:57 PM)
So maybe I just read too much...but here's what I'm thinking. I have a couple of bottles of P-Max left over and I've never done a pulse cycle. So start a natural test booster and kick the P-Max after a week and pulse for 6 weeks, running the t-booster the whole time and through PCT. Since the P-Max is 15 mg pills I'll be dosing at 45 mg. Feel free to grill me if this is a horrible idea.<br>

You dont need a test booster before or during the cycle wll do nothing for you. you are replacing your natty test with an AAS, which is why often times when you run a cycle you get shutdown, b/c the unnatural compound supresses the bodies production of test.

What is your history with AAS or PH use and we can help you set something up. whether it be a pulse or straight cycle.
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QUOTE (Stephen57799 @ Sep 15 2008, 02:52 PM)
QUOTE (MUSTANG_6IX_9INE @ Sep 15 2008, 12:58 PM)
but dude... there r studies logs, blood reports & evidence that prove this w/the proper compounds. u cant deny actual evidence.


"there have been studies"??????

would love to see these, with control groups and stat data and z scores or t tests that prove a stat difference and disput a null hypothesis, LOL!!!

please send me the links to these studies, thanks!

correction, no studies... but logs & blood reports & evidence that prove this w/the proper compounds.

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