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Applied Nutriceuticals REP
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Dude the original is good stuff, if its buy one get one free you are getting a steal...well if you were stealing it it'd be free....bad comparison!!!  Run it just like the new stuff, take it then 15 minutes later carb up! You are exactly right its CEE...you gotta know what Creatine Ethyl Ester is by now. The few "Herbs"...  Banaba Extract which safely stimulates greater levels of glucose, creatine, and protein into muscle cells, without increasing plasma insulin levels. It has repartitioning effects that will shuttle the stuff you want like glucose from simple carbs after your workout, to the muscle cell instead of fat cells. Which this process will then help retain a more positive nitrogen balance equalling greater recovery and more building muscle. Rhodiola Rosea which increases ATP and creatine stores. ATP is important for muscle energy, and is what your muscle uses. So better recovery and more energy while helping your muscles retain more creatine!! On top of this help mental awareness and stress management...cool addition but ATP is more important, this is just a bonus. So these "herbs" are a nice addition to allowing the CEE work better, and help your muscles absorb more glucose, protein, and creatine faster and more efficiently = you being BIGGER, STRONGER, and FASTER!!! Thus ends today's lesson in "The more you know, the more you grow" brotha's!!! Big Ben's your hook up, holla if you hear me!!! SOLID PRODUCT in my opinion! I really don't think you'll be mad for buying one and getting one free. Your pumps should start feeling rock solid after about a week to a week and a half. Then your muscles should feel tighter and harder...basically fuller but pumped and resting. I actually wish we weren't discontinuing it, since some creatines work better for some than others. CEE works well for me, but this product worked amazingly. I'd blast some curls and run upstairs and make my wife feel how hard my bi's were, felt awesome.
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Well i am starting the neovar/ drive/ rpm and stack now so we will see how it goes for me. To be honest i coudlnt really find any REAL good reveiws on it but there was a hype for it and the neovar was cheap so i said what the heck. Previously i took storm with shock therapy and absolutely loved it. Ill be sure to post a reveiw of how the two stacks compared.
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Applied Nutriceuticals REP
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| QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 31 2008, 05:58 PM) | | Best creatine i've ever taken was Size on Tablets, Neovar was probably the worst i've ever taken. |
Like I said some people respond differently to different types of Creatine. It could be CEE just isn't what your body needs to respond. Size On doesn't even contain CEE. I mean I'm in my 2nd week of an old formula bottle and I'm already feeling tighter, and making strength gains with a ton more intensity. My arms feel like they could burst the day after training them, and the muscle flexed feels super hard. I love it!
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Detroit Diesel
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| QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Aug 8 2008, 12:48 PM) | | QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 31 2008, 05:58 PM) | | Best creatine i've ever taken was Size on Tablets, Neovar was probably the worst i've ever taken. |
Like I said some people respond differently to different types of Creatine. It could be CEE just isn't what your body needs to respond. Size On doesn't even contain CEE. I mean I'm in my 2nd week of an old formula bottle and I'm already feeling tighter, and making strength gains with a ton more intensity. My arms feel like they could burst the day after training them, and the muscle flexed feels super hard. I love it! |
to each his own.. Im a creatine non responder anyways.
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| QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 31 2008, 02:13 PM) | | no offense to you ben, but this stuff really is bunk man. |
What are the odds you could explain this? 
Applied Nutriceuticals Representative
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Better Results Through Science
Drive+RPM: It doesn't get any better
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| QUOTE (OmniRed @ Aug 8 2008, 03:20 PM) | | QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Aug 8 2008, 12:48 PM) | | QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 31 2008, 05:58 PM) | | Best creatine i've ever taken was Size on Tablets, Neovar was probably the worst i've ever taken. |
Like I said some people respond differently to different types of Creatine. It could be CEE just isn't what your body needs to respond. Size On doesn't even contain CEE. I mean I'm in my 2nd week of an old formula bottle and I'm already feeling tighter, and making strength gains with a ton more intensity. My arms feel like they could burst the day after training them, and the muscle flexed feels super hard. I love it! |
to each his own.. Im a creatine non responder anyways. |
Where you at Big Red? If you're gonna claim Neovar is bunk, followed by Sizeon tablets of all things worked best for you, followed by being a creatine non-responder..... I'd like to hear you truly explain any/all of the above. The Neovar formula honestly can't be argued against by anyone. The sciende behind it is as solid as anything else on the market, and in 99% of cases, it's much better. Let's see what you got man... maybe I am missing something that your brilliance can enlighten me on 
Applied Nutriceuticals Representative
www.appliednutriceuticals.com
Better Results Through Science
Drive+RPM: It doesn't get any better
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Detroit Diesel
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| QUOTE (Vitruvian @ Aug 10 2008, 05:14 PM) | | QUOTE (OmniRed @ Aug 8 2008, 03:20 PM) | | QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Aug 8 2008, 12:48 PM) | | QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 31 2008, 05:58 PM) | | Best creatine i've ever taken was Size on Tablets, Neovar was probably the worst i've ever taken. |
Like I said some people respond differently to different types of Creatine. It could be CEE just isn't what your body needs to respond. Size On doesn't even contain CEE. I mean I'm in my 2nd week of an old formula bottle and I'm already feeling tighter, and making strength gains with a ton more intensity. My arms feel like they could burst the day after training them, and the muscle flexed feels super hard. I love it! |
to each his own.. Im a creatine non responder anyways. |
Where you at Big Red? If you're gonna claim Neovar is bunk, followed by Sizeon tablets of all things worked best for you, followed by being a creatine non-responder..... I'd like to hear you truly explain any/all of the above. The Neovar formula honestly can't be argued against by anyone. The sciende behind it is as solid as anything else on the market, and in 99% of cases, it's much better. Let's see what you got man... maybe I am missing something that your brilliance can enlighten me on |
That's smart. Im fully entitled to think your product is garbage. You're a rep for a company - so you think its a good idea to sit here and borate end users and call them out to explain themselves? Nice marketing strategy. First off, i dont owe you a damn thing much less an explanation but since im a nice guy ill give it to you for free. As Ben mentioned - Size ON Tablets and Neovar are diametrically different. So, one would assume that if one were "acceptable" in results - the other might not work for me. Neovar was complete shit. I ran it for 60 days after running Size On Tablets. I responded better to the Gaspari than i did to Neovar. Why is that difficult for you to understand? I responded better to ISS Gainer Matrix than True gains. Is that weird too? Or are some people's bodies genetically predisposed to utilize nutritional combinations differently than the person next to them? In general i don't have "great" luck with creatine response. Some people will take creatine in Mono form and gain 10 lbs. Other people wont gain a pound. I gained maybe 2-3 lbs from the Size on and lost it when i got off - Took the Neovar and never gained a lb back. Why might this be the case? Cause i dont respond to shitty Neovar and i do to Size On. Different compositions - different effects for Different people. Got it?
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| QUOTE (OmniRed @ Aug 10 2008, 06:41 PM) | | QUOTE (Vitruvian @ Aug 10 2008, 05:14 PM) | | QUOTE (OmniRed @ Aug 8 2008, 03:20 PM) | | QUOTE (Big_Ben @ Aug 8 2008, 12:48 PM) | | QUOTE (OmniRed @ Jul 31 2008, 05:58 PM) | | Best creatine i've ever taken was Size on Tablets, Neovar was probably the worst i've ever taken. |
Like I said some people respond differently to different types of Creatine. It could be CEE just isn't what your body needs to respond. Size On doesn't even contain CEE. I mean I'm in my 2nd week of an old formula bottle and I'm already feeling tighter, and making strength gains with a ton more intensity. My arms feel like they could burst the day after training them, and the muscle flexed feels super hard. I love it! |
to each his own.. Im a creatine non responder anyways. |
Where you at Big Red? If you're gonna claim Neovar is bunk, followed by Sizeon tablets of all things worked best for you, followed by being a creatine non-responder..... I'd like to hear you truly explain any/all of the above. The Neovar formula honestly can't be argued against by anyone. The sciende behind it is as solid as anything else on the market, and in 99% of cases, it's much better. Let's see what you got man... maybe I am missing something that your brilliance can enlighten me on |
That's smart. Im fully entitled to think your product is garbage. You're a rep for a company - so you think its a good idea to sit here and borate end users and call them out to explain themselves? Nice marketing strategy. First off, i dont owe you a damn thing much less an explanation but since im a nice guy ill give it to you for free. As Ben mentioned - Size ON Tablets and Neovar are diametrically different. So, one would assume that if one were "acceptable" in results - the other might not work for me. Neovar was complete shit. I ran it for 60 days after running Size On Tablets. I responded better to the Gaspari than i did to Neovar. Why is that difficult for you to understand? I responded better to ISS Gainer Matrix than True gains. Is that weird too? Or are some people's bodies genetically predisposed to utilize nutritional combinations differently than the person next to them? In general i don't have "great" luck with creatine response. Some people will take creatine in Mono form and gain 10 lbs. Other people wont gain a pound. I gained maybe 2-3 lbs from the Size on and lost it when i got off - Took the Neovar and never gained a lb back. Why might this be the case? Cause i dont respond to shitty Neovar and i do to Size On. Different compositions - different effects for Different people. Got it? |
Gezzz... who gains 10 pounds from mono...??? in how long? with what diet? You are not a nonresponder, thats so funny. How can you be a nonresponder to something that helps the body replinish ATP stores and buffer lactic acid, just to name a few effects. It is not AAS, your not going to blow up because you take a bottle of this or that. It is a staple supplement that is proven to studies to increase recovery and aid in muscle growth. I really dont get why people bash certain products because they dont get huge off them... It is almost like saying why take BCAA or flaxseed/omega 3s, I didnt gain a bunch of weight off it so it doesnt work. I can tell you the Neovar/ Drive/ RPM/AP stack definately works. Went through a bottle of each, strength and recover was greatly improved and had some of the sickest workouts ever. I believe in results and definately saw them.
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and one of the effects of creatine is drawing water/nutrients into the muscle.... go off it and guess what you loose a little water weight; there are also so many other factors, i mean how was your diet while on neovar vs size on. just dont know how you say one creatine is garbage and only take it for a short time.
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Dont be a moron man. I've been doing this for a long time i understand what creatine is. It's not AAS dumbass - but the thing is some people respond to different formulations better. CEE for some people will be awesome, other people do better on KreA some people do great on Mono. Size on had a combination that worked "better" for me. Same diet on Neovar as with Size on, but i responded better to Gaspari's formulation. Ben seems to understand this which is why he's a much better rep - i clearly stated there was no offence here, and im not the ONLY one who says Neovar is garbage. 99% of the Supp industry is flour mixed with bullshit and Hyped. Neovar is no different it's the latest and greatest until they come out with something with a different bottle and pill color. Then people will pay 35 for it vs 28. You completely missed the point - People CAN BE non responsive, mildly responsive or super responsive to different products. If you think otherwise you're a dumbass. I've stated this whole thing so fucking clearly even Bomb_r2 would understand it. Also - no one even mentioned Drive and RPM - im only vouching for NeoVar. ONCE AGAIN no one said AN was garbage, i said NEOVAR was. Is this really that difficult for you people to grasp?
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Each person as an individual is going to respond differently to different products for better or worse. That doesn't make product A necessarily better than product B. It just means that everyone is different and what might work for one may not work for another. Same thing with certain exercises. I personally hate decline bench press for example and feel I don't get much out of it. However there are tons of people who do it and get great results. Do I feel its a bad exercise? No. I just feel that for me as an individual I don't respond to it and there are other exercises for lower chest that I respond better to.
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