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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 02:56 PM
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jus thinking bout stockin up on some supplies and just wondering what you guys think of this for use of SERM. either this or nolva im looking at but who has used this and any feedback?
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 03:06 PM
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You've got four options for PCT.

Nolvadex, Clomid, Tamoxifen Citrate, and Clomiphene Citrate.

Two of which are synonymous with the other two. I'll let you connect the dots.

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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 03:18 PM
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what about TOREMIFENE CITRATE?


or TAMOXIFEN/CLOMIPHENE combos?


maybe you should read more and stop acting like a badass


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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE (gearskie @ Jul 22 2008, 03:18 PM)
what about TOREMIFENE CITRATE?


or TAMOXIFEN/CLOMIPHENE combos?


maybe you should read more and stop acting like a badass

I'll give you Toremifene Citrate. Although it's not one of the more popular SERMs. What, right off the top of your head would a proper dosage be? (maybe that’s one of the reasons why it’s not popular, because there’s so little readily available knowledge about it, like optimal dosage, etc.)

Not trying to be a badass, I just like to put what I call "substance" in my posts, and maybe a little sarcasm. Not just post after post of five words or less--most of which calling people names--accruing to thousands and thousands of such useless, substance-less posts.

I don't claim to know it all. I have MUCH to learn. I’m sorry if I seem like a know-it-all, but I'm not sorry for imparting the knowledge I've acquired on others. What good is knowledge if it's kept a secret? If you don't like my opinion, just ignore it.

Or to use language you might understand: fuck off, you're an ass, douchebag. biggrin.gif

Have a nice day. Hope the ass heals.

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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 04:11 PM
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that was useless but you still get a jellybean
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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 10:52 PM
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I tried toremefine in place of nolva this last PCT and think things went better w/ it. it's less hepatoxic and works faster. I'll be using it for all PCT lab tests going forward.

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Posted: Jul 22 2008, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Jul 22 2008, 10:52 PM)
I tried toremefine in place of nolva this last PCT and think things went better w/ it. it's less hepatoxic and works faster. I'll be using it for all PCT lab tests going forward.

howd you dose it?

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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 08:09 AM
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Dosing I've seen for Tor


Day 1-4: 120mg
Day 5-9: 90mg
Day 10-19: 60mg
Day 20-28: 30mg

I've also seen

day 1-3 @ 120 because Tor is so strong.......

Or.....

Week 1 60 mg
Week 2 40 mg
Week 3 20 mg
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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 09:37 AM
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QUOTE (TommyD @ Jul 23 2008, 08:09 AM)
Dosing I've seen for Tor


Day 1-4: 120mg
Day 5-9: 90mg
Day 10-19: 60mg
Day 20-28: 30mg

I've also seen

day 1-3 @ 120 because Tor is so strong.......

Or.....

Week 1 60 mg
Week 2 40 mg
Week 3 20 mg

Sounds pretty cut and dry. rolleyes.gif

I think we're getting off topic though. I was TRYING to tell On3Musta that Tamox Citrate IS Nolvadex. Did everyone miss that? huh.gif

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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 11:53 AM
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i know lorken. i worded my first post wrongly, i was a little tired at the time. but its good to see how content you are in trying to prove your point which doesnt really matter.thanks though bud
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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 11:07 PM
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Lorken, you better be fuckin jacked and tan you arrogant bastard

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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 11:28 PM
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i think lorken is actually his avy

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Posted: Jul 23 2008, 11:58 PM
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QUOTE (rbrooks656 @ Jul 22 2008, 11:03 PM)
QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Jul 22 2008, 10:52 PM)
I tried toremefine in place of nolva this last PCT and think things went better w/ it.  it's less hepatoxic and works faster.  I'll be using it for all PCT lab tests going forward.

howd you dose it?

I did something really close to what TD mentioned. I believe I did 120 for the 1st 3 days, then did 60 for the next two or so weeks and finished out tapered down to 30 mg. I really liked it compared to nolva.

The only side I noticed was constipation. Apparently, that's a fairly common side since I came across when I was reading up on it on google. It wasn't anything too bad, just dumping a little less often than usual and taking a little longer. Nothing unbearable.

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Posted: Jul 24 2008, 07:39 AM
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QUOTE ((_)_)===D @ Jul 23 2008, 11:07 PM)
Lorken, you better be fuckin jacked and tan you arrogant bastard

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QUOTE (Lorken @ Jul 22 2008, 04:08 PM)
Not just post after post of five words or less--most of which calling people names--accruing to thousands and thousands of such useless, substance-less posts.


Dick. ohmy.gif

Are all these poster clones the same asshole? Or are all the assholes cloning themselves, and becoming bigger assholes? And gay. And EXTREMELY bored.

C'mon, get a life. Or porno. Or something.

Not that I have any more of a life, giving them the dignity of a response.

Good for a laugh I guess. Probably the point of it anyway. laugh.gif

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Posted: Jul 24 2008, 08:26 AM
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Nolva is good and is tried and true, Clomid works also but you get crazy mood swings and blurry vision, Torem is by far my favorite, no sides for me, libido went through the roof, kept gaining, and HYUGE loads.

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Posted: Jul 24 2008, 03:20 PM
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F*ck clomid, unless you like feeling like a b*tch. Toremifene is worth the extra money.
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Posted: Jul 24 2008, 09:00 PM
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 08:08 AM
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LOL, no. I wouldn't consider myself jackeded, but I am pretty tan.

I have, however, managed to gain about 20lbs of LBM, and lose somewhere close to 45lbs of fat in the last year. Almost 100% naturally. Maybe 95%. A little help from some mild PH's. Most of what I gained from PH's was lost due to ignorance on PCT.

And in the last six months, I've added 100lbs to my deadlift (just hit 300lbs last week! Not incredible, but I'm progressing!), 70lbs to my bench (still a weak point though), and around 50lbs to my back squat (staff infection on my knee didn't help a lot).

I'm kinda blubbed right now, but I'm going to start to cut down to 6-8% body fat in another 2 weeks. I'll take before and after pics. I'll definitely be semi-jacked by the end. And my rat will be tanned as hell, cuz he has some Melanotan I and a tanning salon membership (very exclusive rat salon). biggrin.gif

Right now I'm 186lbs, 10-11%bf, and gaining for another 2 weeks. Then I'm shooting for 170-175lbs, 6-8%bf. 5'9".

Hey, if I come off as a arrogant bastard, sorry. I'm really quite a humble guy. The internet can bring out the ass in everyone I guess. I won't apologize for giving my opinion and sharing what I've learned, and continue to learn (even from this forum).

That answer your question, Dick? Or should I call you Cock A. Balls? laugh.gif

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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 01:09 PM
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I like when people don't know how to take Roids, and use that as an excuse to say theyre still natural
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Posted: Jul 25 2008, 02:40 PM
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QUOTE (accent115 @ Jul 25 2008, 01:09 PM)
I like when people don't know how to take Roids, and use that as an excuse to say theyre still natural

i like people who are still in high school making posts in the steroid sections on forums like they know anything themselves

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