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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 03:33 PM
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Need your help. Never had a weight prob till I quit smoking last year. Gained up to 140 lb and am stuck. I am 37 y/o female, 5'6". I've tried various routines and my current is jogging 3 miles about 5-6 times a week and then circuit training 3 days a week. Have not lost a pound...look a little firmer but measurements not going down much either. My calipers say I might have lost 1% (around 19 or 20% total) bf but with a 3% margin, who knows. My diet is ok. I'm trying to vary my calories between 1500 and no more than 1800 a day with ratio of 34-40% protein, 40% carb and no more than 25% fat. I take Flax oil, CLA, multi vit, ALA, L-Carnitine., and am trying MPX Meltdown, which I am not that impressed with. So, what in the hell is keeping me from getting leaner? Especially in my stomach area. Any supp suggestions, training, diet...anything?? It's driving me crazy to work this hard and still not fit into my jeans!!!!!!!
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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 03:42 PM
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You could switch up your routine and shock your body into something its not use to doing. Do more free weights and 3-4 days of cardio. Are you doing mostly compound movements? Might have to bump up your calories slightly and then slowly come down again. How long have you been dieting?
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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 03:55 PM
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Chris--I have not been doing this routine that long. I started back really working out in Feb. Then did P90X for a month and a half then went to more cardio based. Workouts. I read something that lighter weight/higher reps make muscles look more puffy than hard..do you agree? Maybe I can go back to the standard bodybuilder type routine of 3 sets of 8? I use Fitday to track my calories and can say I'm always dieting to some extent.
Roids--very funny! I refuse to buy bigger jeans. I'm a size 5-7 sometimes 9 and won't go up. If I can find a decent pic to upload I will. Thanks for quickly responding.
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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 04:02 PM
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You will burn more calories lifting weights then cardio, its a simple fact. Puffy muscles? The way a muscle looks is based on body fat and water that your retaining. If your goal is to lose weight then higher reps is more what you are looking for. What works for one person doesnt always work for another. I would keep reps between 10-15 if I was you. When your circuit training what exercises are you doing? How many sets of each? I would probably try doing your cardio in the morning or right after you lift weights. If your really bored throw up a typical days diet and let us see if anything needs changing. Sometimes little changes in a diet can help a lot.
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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 04:21 PM
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I will try to post a pic..
Somewhat of a typical day of eating
breakfast: cereal or oatmeal with half banana, blueberries and skim milk
snack--protein shake w/fruit
lunch: 4-6 oz meat with pasta or brown rice or black beans, veggies
snack: protein shake, fruit
Dinner--pretty much same as lunch, sometimes no carbs.

Am I eating too much fruit/natural sugar?? The fat that looks to worst is in my belly and a little on top of my legs
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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 04:29 PM
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If you want to be super strict then cutting out fruit all together is what to do. First meal of the day throw in some egg whites or a shake with your oatmeal and banana. Eat your complex carbs up until you workout. Then after that just eat veggies with your meals. You said you were taking flax seed oil, so add one or two tablespoons in there a day. Depending on how long you have been eating this amount of calories your metabolism may be use to it and having a cheat meal once a week might help you out too. You could try carb cycling too. I guess you just have to play with things and see how it works out for you. Tell me about your workout routine though?
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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 04:31 PM
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You're not eating enough. More smaller meals
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Posted: Jun 19 2008, 04:32 PM
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Thats what i was thinking too.. I didnt think that adds up to 1500-1800 a day...
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Posted: Jun 20 2008, 07:48 AM
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Wow--thank you all for your support. I use Fitday to track my calories and I am usually between 1500-1800 a day. I checked my sheet from when I started the P90X and I had my bf at 24% now it's at 20%--is it possible to lose that much without losing pounds?? OK, so my workout is fairly simple I run Mon, Wed, Fri, then Sat, and/or Sun. 3 miles in 30 minutes and burn almost 400 calories per my heart rate monitor. Then, on Mon, Wed, and Fri. I do the Firm scultping tapes. Usually one day lower body, one day upper, then one day full body. The lower body consists mainly of lunges using a step and squats and I use 10lb dumbells--upper body is more compound movements. So, am I overtraining doing the running and circuit on the same days?
Should I change my lifting back to basic weight lifting instead of sculpting style?
Any fat burner that will really help cut off the fat around my knees and belly. Like I said, I'm trying Meltdown and I don't think I like it. Did Lipo 6 before that and think it worked a little better.
I want to be around 18% bf--that's not too much to ask. SO, how many calories should I shoot for a day?
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Posted: Jun 20 2008, 08:13 AM
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Yeah it's possible to lose bodyfat but not lbs.

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Posted: Jun 20 2008, 09:19 AM
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I'd suggest more HIIT, and heavier weight. HIIT burns more calories than steady state cardio (yes, it does). Steady state cardio just wastes away bone and muscle (and a little fat), so I definitely wouldn't do any more than you're currently doing--maybe even less.

From an olympic level trainer. Great read.

Muscle burns more calories than anything else. Lifting heavy objects adds muscle. I'll let you do the math. It won't make you look like a man either. If you start to look like a man, back off a little. It won't happen overnight.

Count everything with calories in it. Are you drinking any soda, fitness water, etc.?

Oh, and if all else fails, there's always Mr. Pukey.

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Posted: Jun 20 2008, 11:40 AM
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I track pretty much everything that I take in. And I normally only drink coffee, water, and an occassional Fuze or gatorade G2.
I will adjust my training to do more heavy, standard lifting.
So, if I cut fruit out...what do I eat to get my calories in if I'm keeping my carbs low too. I usually work out first thing in the am..so no carbs except breakfast and am snack?
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Posted: Jun 27 2008, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE (Lorken @ Jun 20 2008, 09:19 AM)


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Posted: Jun 28 2008, 05:57 AM
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...lets see what you eat. Give a typical days worth of meals...

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Posted: Jun 28 2008, 03:27 PM
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Eliminate the fatty snacks and carbonated beverages, instead reach for fruit and even better would be raw vegetables, you can now buy them bagged fresh, cut and ready to eat. Drink more water and natural unprocessed fruit juices. Pass on the milk, cheese, and red meat.

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Posted: Jun 28 2008, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (George251501 @ Jun 28 2008, 03:27 PM)
Eliminate the fatty snacks and carbonated beverages, instead reach for fruit and even better would be raw vegetables, you can now buy them bagged fresh, cut and ready to eat. Drink more water and natural unprocessed fruit juices. Pass on the milk, cheese, and red meat.

Are you basing this on the diet she hasn't presented yet, the woman doesn't even eat carbs i'm sure shes not downing sparks and cheetos
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Posted: Jun 30 2008, 07:56 AM
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it took me a few days to notice more replies to my post...here is what I try to eat everyday
breakfast: oatmeal w/ 1/2 cup milk, blueberries, protein powder, 1/2 banana or bowl of Kashi Go lean w/ milk, 1/2 banana protein shake
am snack: protein shake or protein bar w/fruit
lunch: 4-6 oz meat, mixed veggies, 1 cup brown rice or barilla plus pasta
snack: shake or bar w/ fruit or apple w/ peanut butter
pm: same as lunch usually

some days I make smoothies for a snack..but usually meals are like the above. I just started taking Hydroxycut Max and added glutamine to my supps. I am still running but have starting doing "normal" weights instead of the Firm tapes. I am due to weigh and measure Wed. We'll see. I am going to cut the carbs out of dinner this week and see if that helps and maybe also back of the fruit a little. I just have a hard time getting my calories in eating meat and veggies, you know??!! Thanks
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Posted: Jun 30 2008, 08:28 AM
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You might want to measure your food, and calculate exactly how many calories you consume. You might be surprised by how much you're actually eating. Last time I was dieting down, I reached what I thought was a plateau, then I started weighing all my food, and realized I was eating way more than I thought I was.

You can get a food scale pretty cheap, and I'm sure you already have measuring cups. www.nutritiondata.com is where I get nutrition information if it's not on the package. Then I use Excel (spreadsheet) to calculate everything. There are diet tracking programs you can use online if you don't know how to use a spreadsheet.

On the other hand, if you don't want to measure, you can always cut back by small amounts until you see some weight come off. It shouldn't be all in one meal, so try cutting small portions out of every meal--a little less oatmeal, or fewer blueberries, a little less rice, etc..

During a cut, I try to taper off my carbs toward the end of the day. I've actually purchased some Zero Carb Isopure just for my PM meals. Seems to be working pretty well.

Oh, and don't forget your cheat meals/days. Even if it's not eating "dirtier", eat MORE every now and then, to give your metabolism a boost. Your body adapts very quickly to a low calorie diet, so throw it some curve balls.

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Posted: Jun 30 2008, 08:38 AM
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Sounds to me like you're putting on muscle and thats why you haven't lost weight. You may be one of those girls that puts muscle on easily. Plus with all the exercise and protein you're ingesting it's quite possible. You said your bodyfat% is goin down and you look firmer. I'm sure you know muscle weighs more than fat... Anyone else agree?

If that is the case, as someone else mentioned, having more muscle will help you burn more calories, etc... you need to decide what kind of physique you are going for... low weight or low bodyfat or both.

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Posted: Jun 30 2008, 08:53 AM
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Thanks--I use Fitday and weigh my meat so I know how much I'm eating. Yes, I do think I'm losing bodyfat but just wondered at what point the pounds should start coming off..I think maybe I'm finally on the right track..for one think I was eating around 1500-1600 calories and that was not working..I upped to 1700-1800 with higher days and lower days in between and that made me look better..not so spongy looking!
You know, I go back and forth with what I want to look like! Some days I want to be at a certain weight/size, other days I just want to be firm and hard no matter what the scale says! I think in the end, the second option is what I really want. I was 125 pounds with no muscle tone before and I looked worse that I do now in a way--I like being toned...not skinny. Plus, my best friend is starving herself or something because she lost all of her muscle tone in a month and I realize how awful that looks to be bone and fat!!! Ewww...
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