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UNCnate

Posted: Aug 27 2007, 10:17 PM

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Conditions:
All testers must log the product on Discount Anabolics AND the AX forum.
All testers must be 21 years of age or older.
All testers must live in the USA.
All testers must be available to start their log as soon as they receive the product.
All testers must NOT have any medical condition(s).
All testers must NOT make any changes to their nutrition or training during the log.
All testers must NOT add other variables (such as other supplements) during the log.
All testers must NOT have any "pending logs/reviews" from any other company.
All testers must keep the log going for the duration of the product.
All testers must update their logs 4 or more times per week.
All testers must keep their logs detailed and organized.
All testers MUST post before and after pictures.
Prior use of other natural anabolics encouraged! (not required).

Required Information:

Age:

Sex:

Height:

Weight:

Body type:

Training experience (as much detail as possible):

Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible):

Cardio Schedule/Protocol (as much detail as possible):

Current Supplements (exact brand/product name):

Current Diet and macros (as much detail as possible):

Current Daily water intake:

Short Term Goal:

Long Term Goal:

ANY and ALL Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs:

Supplement history (as much detail as possible):

Other product reviews / logs you have done (with links):

Will you post "Before" and "After" photos (yes or no):

To be considered, post the following Required Information in this thread.

Disclaimer:
I have read the terms above completely. I DO NOT have/know of any medical condition regarding my health and well being. By posting your information, you agree to all terms and conditions, you are declaring that you have read the above terms entirely and agree to them completely. Please make sure you have read all of the above terms before posting your information.

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ed72338

Posted: Aug 27 2007, 10:51 PM

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Any info on the product? I'd like to test but not some unknown product.

UNCnate

Posted: Aug 27 2007, 10:59 PM

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Superdrol-NG is a combination of four synergistic components that produce incredibly dry gains in lean muscle mass, muscle hardness, and massive strength gains. After your first dose you will notice an increase in aggression, a surging rush of intense energy, elevated mental focus, and the drive to start pushing your limits in the weight room. This is the pro-hormone you have been waiting to try!

Anabolic Driver (Pro-Hormone): Anabolic Xtreme introduces its new pro-hormone to carry on the Superdrol legacy. This exciting compound is a powerful (anabolic/androgenic) pro-hormone that converts into Testosterone and 5-AD to produce immediate results that you can feel from the very first dose.

Estrogen Eliminator: A powerful non-androgenic supplement that reduces the formation of estrogen, effectively stimulating your natural testosterone production.

Injection Matrix: You WILL feel Superdrol NG from the first dose and experience increased energy levels, mind blowing pumps, supercharged workouts, and immediate strength gains.

Metabolic HPTA Support Complex: HPTA up-regulating effects will help your body to restore and normalize natural testosterone output and levels in the body while on Superdrol NG.

Use With Caution: Superdrol NG is extremely powerful and should be used responsibly at all times. Be sure to read the entire label and follow all warnings and directions.

Superdrol NG Highlights:
* Xtreme Hardening and Strength Agent
* Dramatic Gains in Strength and Size
* Skyrocketing Testosterone Levels
* New Injection Matrix for Immediate Results You Can Feel
* Increased Sex Drive & Performance Due to Elevated Testosterone
* Estrogen Eliminator Offsets the Potential for Negative Estrogen Related Side Effects
* Accelerated Metabolism and Thermogenesis Leading to Superior Fat Loss Capabilities

Warnings: This product is only intended to be consumed by healthy adult males 21 years of age or older. Women should not use this product. Before using this product consult with your physician if you are using any prescription or over the counter medication or if you have any pre-existing medical condition including but not limited to: high or low blood pressure, cardiac arrhythmia, stroke, heart, liver, kidney or thyroid disease, seizure disorder, psychiatric disease, diabetes, difficulty urinating due to prostate enlargement or if you are taking a MAO-B inhibitor or any other medication. Discontinue use and consult your health care professional if you experience any adverse reaction to this product. Possible androgenic side effects including acne, hair loss, increased levels of estrogen and testicular atrophy may occur. Do not exceed recommended serving. Exceeding recommended serving size may increase the likelihood of these side effects. Do not use if safety seal is broken or missing. This product may contain ingredients that are banned by sports organizations. Keep out of reach of children.

Tester will get to see the package insert as soon as all testers have received the product.

Anabolic Xtreme Rep
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Nathan@anabolicX.com

Anabolic Xtreme 3-AD coming soon!

Feel free to email me with any and all questions, not only AX questions.

goodskie

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 12:43 AM

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i'm interested although i doubt it will do anything. hopefully you prove me wrong

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john123131

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 08:39 AM

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haha..i mentioned before, but if you sometime need a canadian tester im in.

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UNCnate

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE (goodskie @ Aug 28 2007, 12:43 AM)

i'm interested although i doubt it will do anything. hopefully you prove me wrong

Apply and maybe you can find out for yourself.

Anabolic Xtreme Rep
AnabolicX.com
Nathan@anabolicX.com

Anabolic Xtreme 3-AD coming soon!

Feel free to email me with any and all questions, not only AX questions.

ed72338

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 01:20 PM

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Interesting ad but I was hoping the actualy ingredients could be listed. But with copycats I can understand why it's important not to release it.

My concern is that it is like the old Superdrol and is liver toxic. Afterall it is a ph so I'm wondering if it is methylated at c17 like SD was and thus has potenital for hepatoxicity.

ed72338

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 01:52 PM

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One more question: what kind of PCT is required for this product? Sorry for all the questions I'm just inquisitive by nature and want as much detail as possible.

My app is below.

Age:30

Sex: M

Height: 5'8"

Weight: 183lbs

Bodytype: Ecto/Meso

Current Training Schedule / Protocol (as much detail as possible):
Total body circuit training workout 3 days per week. Seeprevious logs for specifics, linked below.

Cardio Schedule/Protocol (as much detail as possible):
5 mile run 3 times week.

Current supplements (exact brand/product name required):
6g Optimum nutrition Fish oil
500mg NAC bulk powder
MAN CLOUT
250mg Na-Rala bulk powder
1 AST PRO 32X Multi
7g Leucine bulk
2g beta alanine bulk
NOW Super Antioxidants

Current Diet and macros (as much detail as possible):
5 meals day consisting of at least 50g protein 75-100g carbs 1 servings vegetables, 1 servings fruits. Try to consume at least 3500 cals. Protein shakes 3x day.

Current Daily water intake: approx 1.8 gallons

Short Term Goal: Increase LBM and strength while maintaining cardio/VO2 Max levels

Long Term Goal: In addition to the above cut some bodyfat in the spring

ANY and ALL Prescription / Non-Prescription / Recreational drugs:
None

Supplement history (as much detail as possible): Too long to list, most of it junk. Haven't ran a ph cycle since march 05. Not currently on any test boosting products or nootropics aside from alcar.

Other product reviews / logs you have done (with links):
http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=36989
http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=34270
http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=30217&st=0&hl=
http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=22707&hl=
http://forums.1fast400.com/?showtopic=27766

Will you post "Before" and "After" photos (yes or no):
No

Disclaimer:
I have read the terms above completely. I DO NOT have/know of any medical condition regarding my health and well being. By posting your information, you agree to all terms and conditions, you are declaring that you have read the above terms entirely and agree to them completely. Please make sure you have read all of the above terms before posting your information.

john123131

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 01:55 PM

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ed,
AX is recommending aPCT from AX, for post cycle, saying a serm is not needed.

I am very interested to see how this products performs, good luck to the tester.

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macedaddy

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 02:07 PM

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QUOTE (ed72338 @ Aug 28 2007, 01:20 PM)

This is NOT methylated! This is NOT liver or hepatoxic! It is VERY sound!

there will not be ANY info released until the product is release! however, testers will receive complete info when they receive the product!

If you doubt the product, that is fine! But results don't lie!

ed72338

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 02:17 PM

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Never said I doubted the effectiveness of the product I just had concerns with liver enzymes and cholesterol values mostly due to the SD name.

But the fact that it is non-methylated and an AI can be used for PCT is good news. Low toxicity and low HPTA suppression are good

It kind of reminds me of 3-AD so it'll be interesting to see what the product contains and what the results are.

john123131

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE (macedaddy @ Aug 28 2007, 02:07 PM)

QUOTE (ed72338 @ Aug 28 2007, 01:20 PM)

look who ventured over here..

haha...sup mace

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Josh47933

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 03:04 PM

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All this new stuff is borrowing parts of their names from older successful products...Liquid Masterdrol, Halodrol Liquigels, now Superdrol NG. I wish there would just be a new set of names for all these new products, so as to avoid confusion.

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ed72338

Posted: Aug 28 2007, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Aug 28 2007, 03:04 PM)

Marketing 101. You have name recognition even if it may lead to some confusion. Why not capitalize off past successes.

Some may cry that it outright deception and they're entitled to that opinion. I would hope though that the consumer is educated enough to research a product before purchasing.

Josh47933

Posted: Aug 29 2007, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE (ed72338 @ Aug 28 2007, 09:05 PM)

QUOTE (Josh47933 @ Aug 28 2007, 03:04 PM)

Why not? Because of backlash from the educated consumer. The reputation of the company ends up eroding when they do that ssort of thing too much. LG would be a good example of that happening to a company.

Another example would be Gaspari doing not only the Halodrol Liquigels, which have nothing in commong w/ Halodrol-50, and Novedex XT, which has nothing to do w/ actual Nolvadex, yet was obviously named what it was to elicit confusion.

Imagine if Pfizer camer out with a product called Viagra Liquigels and marketed it as an extreme erection enhancer.....and it turned out that it contained yohimbe, HGW, ginseng, etc.

Clearly, it would be considered shady...and it's the same thing we're talking about here, essentially. I'm just saying that the serious supplement buyer tends to be pretty well informed and a lot of them get offended by that sort of marketing.

I'm just saying be upfront w/ the consumer if you want to stay in business long term. I don't think that's asking too much.

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goodskie

Posted: Aug 29 2007, 10:25 PM

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i agree with josh. its shady as all hell. thank God i know the diff

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ed72338

Posted: Aug 29 2007, 11:30 PM

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I agree it's slightly shady as it can confuse the dimwitted consumer. But it's also good marketing as it will capture the consumer's attention. They heard good things about the original product and hopefully check out the new one. Now if they are too stupid to realize there's a change then that's their problem. Consumers also have a responsibility to educate themselves but yes it doesn't help when companies use names that cause confuision.

goodskie

Posted: Aug 30 2007, 12:14 AM

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no it doesnt help but i agree with the fact that people need to research what the hell they are doing

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Josh47933

Posted: Aug 30 2007, 01:56 AM

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If a company wants to capitalize on a good reputation they gained from producing an effective product, then they can simply say something like "The same company that brought you (fill in the blank), now introduces a groundbreaking new product..."

That's enough to get a customer's attention and still be above board as far as what a new product is or isn't. People will usually give that company the benefit of the doubt that their new product will probably be very good if their last couple of things turned out really well.

In my opinion, there's just no need to resort to trickery and semantics to sell a legit product, especially to the bodybuilding community, since ppl. are always looking for a magic bullet to get them "steroid like" gains w/ no side effects. Just my two cents.

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willpiazza31

Posted: Aug 30 2007, 07:21 AM

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Word Josh.

I'm curious to see the testing results for this Stuperdrol NG.

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