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Posted: Jul 14 2004, 10:14 AM
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im going to try a ph cycle and my goals are to obtian lean mass. im thinkin of using 1-test and 1,4 andro. but im alittle skeptical of the side effects of 1-test, since im 19 and experiencing some hair loss already. i know theres really nothing to counteract that problem but i was wondering if anyone has tried this and if they are happy with there results. my stats are 5'11, 192 lbs 11 -12% bf max bench 205. if anyone has a better stack that worked out great for them feel free to give your 2 cents. thanx
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Posted: Jul 14 2004, 11:15 AM
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You are definetly are not ready for anything more then a good multi V and some minerals. You don't seem to have put much effort into bettering yourself yet.

How long have you been working out?

At 192 and only benching 205 at 19, when I was 19 I weighted 205 at 15% BF and was benching 285. You either aren't training enough/ too much, eating enough/ the right things, or sleeping enough.

As far as the hair loss issue, yes there is something you can do, do a search for liquid finasteride on Yahoo or google and put a stop to it. Take 1mg ED for the rest of your life and you should be able to hold onto what you have left or dramatically slow the rate it falls out at. PH's will only make it worse especially non-5 Alpha Reductase drugs which few if any PH's are (Only injectable Test is off the top of my head).

Here is a good stack option for you...

a strict diet with lots of protein
a sound training plan
and at least 8 hours of sleep per night
a good multi V
maybe some creatine

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Posted: Jul 14 2004, 03:23 PM
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QUOTE (Nicholas18644 @ Jul 14 2004, 11:15 AM)
You are definetly are not ready for anything more then a good multi V and some minerals. You don't seem to have put much effort into bettering yourself yet.

How long have you been working out?

At 192 and only benching 205 at 19, when I was 19 I weighted 205 at 15% BF and was benching 285. You either aren't training enough/ too much, eating enough/ the right things, or sleeping enough.

As far as the hair loss issue, yes there is something you can do, do a search for liquid finasteride on Yahoo or google and put a stop to it. Take 1mg ED for the rest of your life and you should be able to hold onto what you have left or dramatically slow the rate it falls out at. PH's will only make it worse especially non-5 Alpha Reductase drugs which few if any PH's are (Only injectable Test is off the top of my head).

Here is a good stack option for you...

a strict diet with lots of protein
a sound training plan
and at least 8 hours of sleep per night
a good multi V
maybe some creatine

Fpot66

i've been working out for almost a year and half..and i started out 150 lbs and gained most of my 190 in about a year. I do agree w/ u now that i think of it , i've seen very good results as far as working at the gym, but i do see where i can get better with my diet. thanx for the reply thou, i guess i'll bit longer till i start ph's.
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Excellent choice

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