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Posted: Feb 28 2007, 01:34 PM
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I am 22 years old....about 196 lbs. My chest is pretty big but I can't seem to lift that much. When I bench I normally start off doing 2 sets of 8 165 lbs, then drop down to 2 sets of 8 145, then 2 sets of 8 115 lbs, then 2 forced sets of 95 lbs. When I max I can do about 205. I take protein shakes, BCAA caps, and ECC......

What am I doing wrong?
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Posted: Feb 28 2007, 02:35 PM
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Well 8 rep sets are more about hypertrophy than strength...

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Posted: Feb 28 2007, 02:56 PM
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I'd change routines.....for the next 6 to 8 weeks I'd lift heavy in the 4 to 6 rep range and not just flat benching.....incline and decline. I'd also do a set or 2 with light weight/high reps to warm up the muscles and joints

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Posted: Feb 28 2007, 02:59 PM
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Also.......make sure you are eating enough to fuel muscle growth.
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Posted: Feb 28 2007, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (TommyD @ Feb 28 2007, 02:59 PM)
Also.......make sure you are eating enough to fuel muscle growth.

I eat about 3000 cals a day....i'd eat more but im never hungry
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Posted: Feb 28 2007, 04:03 PM
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IMO you're going backwards on your set scheme. You'd be way better off staring at 95lb. and work your way up to 165lb. If you have already taxed you pecs with 165 in your first set, all the other sets are going to do nothing but tax your CNS

Use the 95 / 115 / and 145 as warmups, go to positive failure on 165, add 10 lb. and do one more set to positive failure, and thats it.. You're done. Next time you do chest try to increase each working set by one rep, when you are up 2 or 3 reps add 5 lb. and start the whole process over again..

Make sure you keep a journal, that way you'll know exactlly what your previous workout was like and make your increases accordingly..
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Posted: Mar 2 2007, 07:12 AM
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Like the other guys said change your rep range to anywhere from 1-6 eat alot. I had the same problem for a long time and I asked one of the trainers at my gym about it and he said that I should also vary my grip form wide to close every once and a while. Also make sure that you are hitting incline and decline hard to.
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I had the same problem where I gained a lot of size compared to where I had started from but didn't really pick up that much strength relative to my size increases. I probably would have maxed out around the same weight as you as I know I never had 225 or close to it on the bench before. Switched to a power lifting methodology and quickly gained strength on it and have maxed out at 255lbs and should be able to do more than that now. Go up a couple posts and read through EVERYTHING Unstable said. He is right on the money.


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Posted: Mar 4 2007, 09:34 PM
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i am 16 years old and trying to get bigger fast. right now i am about 196lbs and max bench is 275, but i dont think that i am doing the right amount of workouts, sets, and reps to build my chest up more. does anyone have any advice.
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Posted: Mar 4 2007, 09:51 PM
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Posted: Mar 11 2007, 08:34 PM
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unstable pretty much summed it up dude...

heres what i would do:

1.) You need to start lifting for power instead of rep...do reps of 3-6 with heavy weight
2.) Instead of going from heaviest to lightest, do the opposite...u wanna rly push ur muscles near the end of ur workout!
3.) as unstable clearly said, work ur delts, tri's and maybe ur lats too
4.) Eat a lot of cals, and take in about 200-250 G's protein per day
5.) maybe stack up on some creatine, or some strength supps

GL with your bench...hope i helped

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Posted: Mar 11 2007, 09:18 PM
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i am 12 years old and trying to get bigger fast. right now i am about 126lbs and max bench is 175, but i dont think that i am doing the right amount of workouts, sets, and reps to build my chest up more. does anyone have any advice.

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Posted: Mar 11 2007, 10:13 PM
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wicked advice unstable.

I am going to try the 90% idea that you say. Right now my max bench is probably around the 225 range.

I usually do 8x135, 8x155, 8x155.

Some weeks i will do 4x185 for the last set., i could probably step it up abit to get neer the 90%.

Now, with my current routine im only in the gym 3x a week, and been doing fullbody with just 2 excersizes per muslce group and only 2 sets 8 reps per excersize, all compount excersizes.

Would it be ok, so say 1 day a week do the 90% and for the other days just do my normal thing ?
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Posted: Mar 13 2007, 02:25 PM
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Hey Eric!

No you gotta deside what you want and if you mix full body and powerlifting you are going to get worst of both worlds. Try and do a basic powerlift rutine for say 6 months and see what gains you make on your bench (or whatever) and you wont ever look back and it will help your BB if you deside to go back to that

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Posted: Mar 13 2007, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE (clubstud21 @ Feb 28 2007, 03:20 PM)
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Also.......make sure you are eating enough to fuel muscle growth.

I eat about 3000 cals a day....i'd eat more but im never hungry

3000 calories is below your maint. level try eating about 3500-3800 a day.

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Posted: Mar 13 2007, 09:53 PM
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i work out boiut 80% of my max5 sets from 8-10 reps a set on monday and wensday
fridays i change it up and do crazy 8s or chains...


go lowest to highest. Do military press to that help me out alot from 135 max to my 155 with in the first 2 or 3 weeks


works well for me put on at least 2.5 lbs on my max every week starting from 135 up to 190 atm been working out since december (IMG:http://forums.bulknutrition.com/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

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Posted: Mar 17 2007, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE (unstable @ Mar 16 2007, 05:14 PM)
hard to tell whether it would work or not..can give it a try. The problem is that alot of guys *think* they are doing 90%+ and they really aren't.

Because most people don't really know what their true 100% is (which is I'm sure what you were getting at).

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Posted: Mar 18 2007, 01:49 AM
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whats the best way to find the true 100%, obviously just get down and lift till you cant anymore? But is there some tips or other ways to lift as much as possible to find the 100%?

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