I'm 35, 6'4", and weight 220. Been lifting on and off (mostly on) for 15 + years.
Recently I've been trying to lose weight (Waist=39" , Gut =41"). I was already to try my first PH stack of Norderm & 1'4 Andro, but I haven't seen any real positive info. on Norderm (19-Nor). I started thinking maybe I would try M4OHN stacked with 1'4 Andro as my first PH (low sides effects) stack. I've done my research on this site, but haven't seen any info. on these two stacked. Like everyone, I want to lose fat and maintain or gain muscle. I was thinking maybe a 5 week cycle.

Would this be a low side effect stack (minus the liver toxicity)? (my hair is already thinning on top.)

Would these PH's work well together for a lean stack?

Would I take less of the M4OHN than recommended since I would also be using the Andro (Andro 600mg)?

How hard are these two orals going to be on my Liver? (I was planning some liver care supps).

I also plan on 6 oxo for PCT and E-Form for back-up.

Thanks in advance for the advice.

Anyone? (Buehler? Buehler?)