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Posted: Nov 6 2005, 06:33 PM
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I am new to this fourm and would like assistance. I am extremely obese 54% body fat and have purchased the biotek maximun strenth ephedrine to assist with burning fat. Is there anything else I should combine with this? I will be starting out with water aerobics along with weight training. I need to drop fast 6 to 8 months over 120 lbs. Am I on the right track? recommendation welcomed.
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Posted: Nov 6 2005, 06:36 PM
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Caffeine goes good with ephedrine, but before you start that please post your prospective diet in the diet forum so we can help you there first. EC will get you nowhere without a good diet. Good luck with your weightloss.
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Posted: Nov 6 2005, 06:42 PM
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The ephedrine is usually combined with caffeine. You want to be careful if this is your first time with ephedrine. Especially at your BF %, you are at more risk for heart related problems. So make sure when you begin to take it you asses your tolerance. Start off slow taking 1 – 25mg pill in the morning for a week, if you are seeing no adverse effects it is probably ok to increase your dosage to 1 pill in the morning and one in the afternoon. You can combine this with 1- 200mg pill of caffeine. I use prolab caffeine or primaforce (it doesn’t matter which).

More important than any of this though is making sure your diet is on track. Diet is more effective and important than any supplement.
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Posted: Nov 6 2005, 06:49 PM
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I have been reading the body for life book and was going to use their program which is protien and carb for breakfast, protien for snack, protien/carb lunch, protien snack and protien carb for dinner w/a snack before bed. If you have a diet/program that would be more effective, please share.
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Posted: Nov 7 2005, 07:35 AM
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Think James did a good job on what you need to watch out for. Take it easy starting out on the supps.

Low-carbing would be the best option for losing a lot of weight, though the diet can be difficult. We've seen good results with people on the Body for Life program (Spiritwalker was a regular member on here and he had great results with it). Maybe look into something along the lines of the South Beach Diet as well.

Use this little device to get an idea of what your daily caloric intake should be: http://html.kcra.com/sh/health/diettv/calc/bmrcalc.html

If you low-carb you can afford to go over a bit on the total calories for the day. Whatever diet you do decide to go on take the time to sit down and write out your nutritional values for a day. Measure your food as well. We get used to seeing "serving size: 1 cup" all the time, but do you realize what 1 cup can actually be? You will learn a lot of you take the time to do this.

Since you obviously have a computer, start a file up to keep your nutrient values close by. Find some meals & snacks that are good for you and plan your meals in advance. For me at least, if I come home with no idea of what I'm going to eat for dinner I find myself more tempted to stray from eating right.

As far as cardio goes, start off easy. HIIT would be something good to get into eventually, but if you've been fairly sendentary for a few months don't worry about starting out by running 3 miles. Start off with 5 minute programs for a few days, then moving up to 10, then either increase the intensity/resistence levels over time.

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Posted: Nov 7 2005, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Deanna @ Nov 6 2005, 06:33 PM)
I am new to this fourm and would like assistance.  I am extremely obese 54% body fat and have purchased the biotek maximun strenth ephedrine to assist with burning fat.  Is there anything else I should combine with this?  I will be starting out with water aerobics along with weight training.  I need to drop fast 6 to 8 months over 120 lbs.  Am I on the right track?  recommendation welcomed.

Over 120lbs? And here i was being depressed lately over my difficulty in loseing 20lbs. I feel for ya...

I HIGHLY recommend going on a Low-Carb diet. I used to way 330lbs and was very overweight,but got down to 223lbs that way. All i did was cut down to little or no carbs STRICTLY, and did at least an hour of cardio on a treadmill or exercise bike EVERYDAY.

Unfortunitly it seems as though the body builds up a nasty tolerence to low-carb after awhile.After my marvelous successes with it, it just stopped working completly even though i was doing everything the same.All i can suggest is to not get comfortable and go off the diet because that seems to make that occure sooner...

While i have gained some of the weight back since then,low-carb has helped alot to get me as far as i am.

As for Biotek Ephedrine , in my opinion ephedrine is HIGHLY overrated and does very LITTLE if anything to aid weightloss. What it does do well however is make a GREAT appetite surpressent when combined with caffiene(RECOMENDED from coffee). This could be VERY helpful as sticking to a low-carb diet is tough. The body naturally craves carbs and 90% of most fun foods out there have carbs in them.

If i were you i would try: Strictly cutting down little to no carbs a day,and an hour of cardio EVERYDAY w/ephedrine+coffee. Good Luck.
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Posted: Nov 7 2005, 06:13 PM
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I would like to see your diet and excercise plan. It's a good thing you are doing.

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Before and after pix Would be appreciated As we would all love to see your monthyl progess.

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Posted: Nov 8 2005, 07:25 AM
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As for Biotek Ephedrine , in my opinion ephedrine is HIGHLY overrated and does very LITTLE if anything to aid weightloss. What it does do well however is make a GREAT appetite surpressent when combined with caffiene(RECOMENDED from coffee). This could be VERY helpful as sticking to a low-carb diet is tough. The body naturally craves carbs and 90% of most fun foods out there have carbs in them

Grave - why the ephedra hatin' brotha??? laugh.gif

While I disagree about it being overrated, he does bring up something that most people don't realize - around 75% of weightloss while taking ephedra is due to the appetite suppression you will experience, a GOOD thing while dieting. Grave is right that it is not a supermagicwonderpilltomakeyouskinny supplement. It is a very effective product when taken properly (along with caffeine).

Some other supps you could consider that are cheap and help with fat loss would be green tea & fish oils - two supplements that should always be in your stack regardless of goals.

That good thing about being overly overweight is that in the initial months of starting a program the fat should really melt away quickly, which is a HUGE motivational tool. At one time I was almost 400lbs and dropped 130+lbs by watching what I ate and plain ol' busting ass in the gym. I did take an ephedra/caffeine containing product so that did help out a lot.

Don't get upset if you have some weeks where you don't lose as much as the week before, or if you run into times where you can't make it to the gym some nights. Just get back on track as soon as possible and you'll be fine.

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Posted: Nov 8 2005, 11:45 AM
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Im glad that your wanting to lose the weight but i don't think you should use any supps at the start. I would also advise you on letting your Dr know that your planning on losing weight.

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QUOTE (Skate @ Nov 8 2005, 07:25 AM)
Grave - why the ephedra hatin' brotha??? laugh.gif

Sorry. I've been taking it for quite the while now and have never got much results from it that would lead me to believe its worth a crap. However i have heard some mention in the past that the body gets used to it when taken to often, so i've stop taking it now.

Will start again a few weeks from now to see if it makes a difference.
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Posted: Nov 8 2005, 07:21 PM
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I agree with PushOfaButton, You really don't need supplements to start out. Your body will lose weight just from a healthy diet and excersise. I'd try not to use any supplements until you need them. Good luck with everything!

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Grave - why the ephedra hatin' brotha???  laugh.gif

Sorry. I've been taking it for quite the while now and have never got much results from it that would lead me to believe its worth a crap. However i have heard some mention in the past that the body gets used to it when taken to often, so i've stop taking it now.

Will start again a few weeks from now to see if it makes a difference.

Your body gets used to it in terms of the stimulant effects. But chronic usage of EC stacks have proven to be more effective regarding thermogenesis.

As far as results go, if your diet and training are off to begin with, no supplement will give you any significant result. In any event, EC stack can help, but don't expect dramatic results. Nothing short of anabolics/drugs will give you a significant boost.

I'm going to assume you had a solid diet and training routine prior to starting EC and that you were already making progress. That being said, a lot of the general public expect it to be this magic pill that will automatically correct a retarded diet and/or exercise in a bottle, when this is not the case.
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Posted: Nov 8 2005, 11:42 PM
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I agree, don't use supplements other than multivitamins first. The dieting and exercise will do wonders for you for quite some time. Wait until you get closer to your goal to throw in fat burning supplements.

Have you spoken to your doctor about your plan? I would imagine you have residual health problems, maybe high blood pressure, diabetes, high cholesterol, etc. Please be completely honest here about your health so we can recommend things to you that will not harm you. Please post basic statistics as well - age, height and weight. You should take pictures but you don't have to post them. Use them for your own motivation, then when you reach your goal if you want to share them you can.

What you want to do is not impossible but you have to be ready to change your life and dedicate yourself to health and fitness. Welcome to the board!
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Posted: Nov 9 2005, 09:23 AM
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besides diet and exercise, i would say get some fish oil, sesathin, green tea extract, and a multi... maybe down the road before EC try melting point, and chocamine.
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Posted: Nov 9 2005, 10:55 AM
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Thanks for stopping by and welcome to the forum! I'll agree with a few others and state that diet and exercise ALONE will work wonders, especially if you are new to the game. Don't start overloading your body with supplements right off the bat...save the supplements when you begin hitting a plateau.

I highly suggest posting your detailed diet (carbs, protein, and fat breakdown) in the diet section and training log in the training section for the group to analyze first...and by all means, see a doctor before you kick this whole thing off.
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