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 The difference between CEE and regular creatine is that CEE has an ethyl ester attached. The main effect of this modification is to increase the lipophilicity of creatine, which makes it so it more easily passes through cell membranes. It is argued that esterfication of creatine prevents creatinine conversion in the GI tract, increases intestinal absorption, and perhaps even allows it to enter muscle cells through passive transport.
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Banned for being too bad ass.

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 I don't remember the exact claims of CEE, but I'll offer my feedback based on my experiences: (Not that this matters, but here's some background about me: I started lifting weights almost 20 years ago. I've never taken anything illegal, but I've tried everything from bee pollen, to gamma oryzenal, to other ridiculous nonsense. Out of all this crap, the only supplement I tried that clearly resulted in strength gains was creatine. Read on.) Roughly 4 years ago, I decided to try creatine mono. During my first cycle, I experienced substantial strength gains. However, my subsequent cycles weren't nearly as productive. The only side effect I ever experienced while taking creatine-mono was with my shits. I'm grateful that I never experienced muscle cramps, but I dreaded trips to the bathroom. They left my ass feeling completely raw. If there's such thing as liquid fire, this must be the substance that made its way out my anus. This sensation got old, so I thew out my creatine-mono roughly 2 years ago. About a month ago, I decided to give CEE a whirl. (I'm currently supplementing with Cre-Ethyl THUNDER and ON's whey protein.) While taking these supplements, I can honestly say that I've experienced the most substantial strength gains of my life. I haven't "maxed-out" yet, but based on the weights I'm working out with and the reps I'm doing, my bench press is undoubtedly the strongest it's ever been. My shits no longer burn. However, I should mention that they're not exactly clean, either. Come to think of it, I can't remember the last time I was able to take a shit with only 1 flush's worth of toilet paper. I'm not sure if my messy shits are due to the types of food I'm eating these days, my evil addiction to dipping/chewing tobacco, and/or my supplements. Anyways, all in all, I'd have to say that CEE is the most effective supplement I've ever taken based on my current experiences. Oh yeah, here are a couple more things I like about Cre-Ethyl THUNDER: 1) You don't have to go through a "loading" phase--I noticed strength gains almost immediately. (I think this applies to all CEE. Not sure, though.) 2) Cre-Ethyl THUNDER is in tablet-form. Just down them w/ some water, and you're good to go. 3) Supposedly, you don't have to cycle CEE. From what I understand, you can take it daily til the day you die (provided that you continue to work out regularly). Hope this helps.
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 Speedster00 brings up a good point that might not be obvious to some.... I'll try to explain it in another way (as I understand it): -Once your muscles are fully saturated with creatine, you're able to achieve substantially more powerful contractions (ie, lift harder). -Your body can only "absorb" creatine at a certain rate.... The rest of it gets excreted. -Because creatine-mono [supposedly] gets absorbed less efficiently than CEE, you have to "load" creatine-mono in order to get your muscles to the appropriate saturation point. (Once saturation is achieved, kick-ass workouts ensue.) -From my experience, when creatine-mono came out my ass, it was in the form of fireballs. This is why I'm particularly grateful for the "no loading" aspect of CEE: I don't have to take mass quantities of creatine, so I don't end up shitting fireballs. FYI, when I was trying to figure out if I should try CEE a few months ago, I remember many people saying that you don't have to bother with CEE if creatine-mono is working fine for you. However, if creatine-mono doesn't seem to be helping you go balls-out during your workouts, your muscles might not be sufficiently saturated with creatine. If this is the case, I'd suggest giving CEE a try instead of pumping more creatine-mono into your body. Just my humble suggestion.
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