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> Supplement questions, NO2, T-Bomb II, Cellmass Creatine Ethyl
Posted: Jun 5 2005, 05:04 PM
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I am a high school athlete (football player/powerlifter) with minimal use of supplements in the past, but have been thinking about getting on NO2, T-Bomb II, and Cellmass Creatine Ethyl. I was wondering what the results of these products will be and what other products would be suggested for putting on about 20-25 pounds of lean muscle mass within the next 4-5months. I have been lifting weights heavily for the past 4-5 years so weights arent all that new to me just the supplements. Suggestions please.
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Posted: Jun 5 2005, 05:48 PM
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Well if you want my opinion...NO2 should be the first thing that you forget about. Its called NO because you see NO gains from. Basically it might amplify your pump, but that goes away a little bit after your workout. A good pump isnt going to put muscle on you. I wouldnt bother with cellmass either, its overpriced glutamine powder. Look into bulk nut's CEE if you want a good cheap creatine and pick up a good whey powder. T-Bomb isnt really necessary for a high school athelete either, your T levels are fine and shouldnt be messed with. Its all about your diet. Put 100% into your lifing, and 100% into your eating and you'll see the gains your looking for. So stick with creatine, protein, and also a good multi-vitamin, then eat yourself silly with quality foods.

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Posted: Jun 5 2005, 07:00 PM
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1. Creatine CEE
2. FOOD
3. Protein
4. FOOD

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Posted: Jun 5 2005, 10:56 PM
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QUOTE (whatastud08 @ Jun 5 2005, 05:48 PM)
Well if you want my opinion...NO2 should be the first thing that you forget about. Its called NO because you see NO gains from. Basically it might amplify your pump, but that goes away a little bit after your workout. A good pump isnt going to put muscle on you. I wouldnt bother with cellmass either, its overpriced glutamine powder. Look into bulk nut's CEE if you want a good cheap creatine and pick up a good whey powder. T-Bomb isnt really necessary for a high school athelete either, your T levels are fine and shouldnt be messed with. Its all about your diet. Put 100% into your lifing, and 100% into your eating and you'll see the gains your looking for. So stick with creatine, protein, and also a good multi-vitamin, then eat yourself silly with quality foods.

this first thing you need to do is throw out this guys opinion.... it sucks.
no2 wouldnt be too bad to take and you can transport more of the protein/creatine to the muscles. t bomb 2 would be a mad mistake. your in high school you dont need to waste your money on that.
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Posted: Jun 5 2005, 11:28 PM
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But what if i have tried creatine/protein with minimal results even with eating crazy amounts and working my butt off in weights. i want something that will give me results fast and right now im to a point to where i could care less about side effects. any suggestions? thanks.
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Posted: Jun 6 2005, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE (Goody20 @ Jun 5 2005, 05:04 PM)
I am a high school athlete

just say no to superdrol
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QUOTE (kimp @ Jun 6 2005, 10:23 AM)
QUOTE (Goody20 @ Jun 5 2005, 05:04 PM)
I am a high school athlete

just say no to superdrol

great advice!


QUOTE (Goody20 @ Jun 5 2005, 10:28 PM)
But what if i have tried creatine/protein with minimal results even with eating crazy amounts and working my butt off in weights. i want something that will give me results fast and right now im to a point to where i could care less about side effects. any suggestions? thanks.

break down your diet and supplement routine that failed you. we'll be able to point out simple things that will help you put on weight.

IE: give us a very detailed rundown of what your typical daily intake is

and by that, i mean: if you eat a bowl of cereal for breakfast dont' just write:
"breakfast - 1 bowl of ceral"
write down
"breakfast - 2 cups Raisin Bran (4g protein/40g carbs/0g fat) + 8 oz skim milk (8g protein/12g carbs/0g fat)"

if you take a protein shake, write down "protein shake (50g protein, 0 carbs, 0 fats)" or whatever the nutritional breakdown for that is.

do this for EVERYTHING you eat in a day. in fact, make a journal for about 3 days... i would bet that you aren't eating NEARLY as much as you think you are eating.

like i said, once we have this info we'll be able to help you make adjustments to make the scale AND your strength go up just by making a few dietary changes

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Posted: Jun 6 2005, 09:09 PM
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this first thing you need to do is throw out this guys opinion.... it sucks.



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So stick with creatine, protein, and also a good multi-vitamin, then eat yourself silly with quality foods.


Ya...I give horrible advice... dry.gif

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QUOTE (kimp @ Jun 5 2005, 10:56 PM)
QUOTE (whatastud08 @ Jun 5 2005, 05:48 PM)
Well if you want my opinion...NO2 should be the first thing that you forget about. Its called NO because you see NO gains from. Basically it might amplify your pump, but that goes away a little bit after your workout. A good pump isnt going to put muscle on you. I wouldnt bother with cellmass either, its overpriced glutamine powder. Look into bulk nut's CEE if you want a good cheap creatine and pick up a good whey powder. T-Bomb isnt really necessary for a high school athelete either, your T levels are fine and shouldnt be messed with. Its all about your diet. Put 100% into your lifing, and 100% into your eating and you'll see the gains your looking for. So stick with creatine, protein, and also a good multi-vitamin, then eat yourself silly with quality foods.

this first thing you need to do is throw out this guys opinion.... it sucks.
no2 wouldnt be too bad to take and you can transport more of the protein/creatine to the muscles. t bomb 2 would be a mad mistake. your in high school you dont need to waste your money on that.

I think the advice of Whatastud is good to go. Sounds just like yours except for you being an advocate for wasting his money on no2. After a workout, your blood doesn't need a "perpetual boost" to transport nutrients. unsure.gif
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