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 I am looking at putting together a stack consisting of High Potency Green Tea Extract, Acetyl-L-Carnitine and Caffeine Anhydrous. Recommendations on portion size and when to take the stack would be helpful. Also, I am taking preworkout, 10g GO and 5g creatine, is it a good idea to take the mentioned stack with the Go and creatine preworkout or is there a better time to take it? Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.
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I recently bought the powdered form of the Green Tea, ALCAR and caffeine. Serving size based on grams or milligrams of each would help out a lot. My goal for this stack is an aid to fat loss. Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.
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| QUOTE (Matt Safron @ Apr 19 2004, 09:17 AM) | | I recently bought the powdered form of the Green Tea, ALCAR and caffeine. Serving size based on grams or milligrams of each would help out a lot. My goal for this stack is an aid to fat loss. |
Green Tea - 800mg (based off of pill content) ALCAR - 1000mg Caffeine - 200 mg Above 3x day. If you don't add the Vasapro into this stack you could probably bump the Caffeine intake up some. Like I said though, I would add the Vasapro into the stack.
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Matt- Shoot customer service an email at BSL ( I'm assuming that's where you got the fat loss supplements ), they're extremely helpful. Caffeine anhydrous can be extemely dangerous at high doses. Do you have a history of using it? Do you know your tolerance? Skate's recommendation will have you approaching 1 gram of caffeine anhydrous daily - not good if your new to the compound. IMO, try the following 2 times a day since your using GO: Green tea : 500 mg ALCAR: 1g Caffiene anhydrous: 100mg You probably need a digital scale to make sure you are dosing properly. Dose timing depends on when you workout. Need more diet & training info and body statistics. Good luck!
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| QUOTE (ddouble @ Apr 19 2004, 10:50 AM) | | Caffeine anhydrous can be extemely dangerous at high doses. Do you have a history of using it? Do you know your tolerance? |
My bad...didn't realize you were going with a different form of caffeine. Go with double's suggestions, especially if you have not used any of these before. I need to get out of the habit if of assuming that people have had experience with supps. Thanks for catching that dd. Matt...are you using these to aid in fat loss or just as an energy boost? Also, if you're going to up the dossage levels then I wouldn't take it too many times a day. If the dose level you're at is working for you, then you many want to try to spread it out to 2-3 times a day before uping the mg/g per dose. IF you do spread it out to 3 times a day, I personally suggest lowering the dossage for the time being until you get used to it. There's too many unknown factors to tell you yes/no about uping dossage amounts. Start off low and work your way up. That's my two cents... Let us begin a revolution. I herebye place Skate at the helm. HARRR what be yer orders Captain?! - u.w.f.f. You hate us 'cause we'll never go away
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Matt - look here: http://www.blackstarlabs.com/?cPath=17&products_id=168Again, recongnize that there are synergistic effects if you take GO, an ECGC supplement (green tea) and caffiene anhydrous together. You may not need to increase the anhydrous to boost the fat loss at this point. Also, check to see if David Tolson has written about caffiene anhydrous (or shoot him an email) if you don't want to take my word for it. Best wishes-
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I just noticed the new green tea extract is here (>50% EGCG). But anyway, for daily dosage I would recommend Green tea extract - 1 gram Acetyl-L-carnitine - 2 grams Caffeine anhydrous - 400 mg With the green tea and ALCAR you can take twice as much if desired. I would take this spread over 2-3 doses, but avoid the caffeine before bed. You could take it with Go but some of the ingredients would be redundant. I would just take the Go by itself maybe with some extra caffeine.
David Tolson
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Caffeine anhydrous and caffeine are the same I think it is best to avoid caffeine intake anywhere over 500 mg daily, and make note of all the caffeine you get from food and other supplements. Each serving of Go has 75 mg I believe. Each gram of the new green tea has 50 mg. So if you also get some from your diet, especially if you drink coffee, it will quickly add up. Caffeine anhydrous powder specifically should be used carefully because it is easy to overdose on it if you aren't measuring it accurately. I do not recommend mixing it with other powders.
David Tolson
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Portion sizes, High Potency Green Tea Extract, Acetyl-L
