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Posted: May 9 2005, 05:22 PM
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I am testing Omega Sports' Cre-Ethyl Thunder (a CEE product) and Power Jolt (pre-workout stimulant; caffeine+alcar+l-tyrosine+vinpocetine+rhodiola), for thirty days, along with two other people.

Ill kick this off with some background information. I'm 19, currently 195 lbs, and somewhere between 15 and 20% bodyfat (I suck at estimating this). I just came back from college, and ended a nine month rugby season two weeks ago. My goals for the summer are to weigh 225 lbs by the time rugby starts up again and to set huge PRs on all of my powerlifts.

I have not been using a creatine product for the past two weeks; was using BN's CEE. I usually use Alcar and caffeine preworkout, and recently added sulbutiamine (which I like), but I will cease usage of these to keep the effects of Power Jolt clean.

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Posted: May 9 2005, 09:31 PM
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did a sled recovery workout tonight... started both products, not much to say since this wasn't really a workout. Bench tomorrow.

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Posted: May 10 2005, 06:52 PM
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Day 2, light bench day: took my Thunder and Jolt on the car ride to the gym.

shoulder warmup
T-bar row: 5x10 @ "140"
*Tricep/Football bar bench: barx10, 95x10, 135x10 , 185x6, 155x12, (moved to the close grip) 135x12, 135x8 (failed on 9th). For those of you who don't know, the football bar is a barbell that weighs 80? pounds and has a neutral grip
Incline DB press: 4x15x27.5 lbs. very light.

Hammer curls: 1x7x50s, 2x10x40s
Regular curls: 2x10x32.5s

This was a pretty good workout. As I said in my opening post in this thread, i'm trying to pack on mass that I lost during rugby season and quickly bring my powerlifts back to where they were and then higher, so there will be a lot of basic and random repetition work throughout this log.

*I noticed after my last set of these that I had incredible vascularity in my forearms; one or two veins which never bulge out were doing just that. If that continues in other workouts and with other lifts, and actually contributes to me getting bigger and stronger, I think Thunder will have done it's job. Way too soon to tell though, but this only day 2.

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Posted: May 12 2005, 12:00 AM
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Day 3, off/recovery day: felt really tired today for some reason. before mowing the lawn I took Power Jolt (I know, what a hardcore activity to test it on rolleyes.gif ), that seemed to wake me up a little, nothing spectacular.

dragged upper body sled later; anterior delts and triceps were fried from the Tricep bar I used yesterday. did a few power exercises with a shotput.

weight is 198 today

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Posted: May 12 2005, 10:39 PM
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Day 4: Squat/Deadlift

workout at 7 PM. weight 198

warmup: hip adducator/abducator, facepulls, Glute-ham raise, roman chair situps, ballistic stretching

Speed deadlifts standing on 100 lb plates, sumo/conventional: 4x1x275, 6x1x315 (belted)
Squats (no belt): bw, barx5, 110x5, 150x5, 200x5, 240x3, 200x26 PR. These were just warmup sets, a weight above the work-set to prime my CNS, and a rep-out with my bodyweight on the bar. My previous best was 25. I can definetely improve on this further, havent even done rep squats in a while.

a) Incline GHR situps: 4x15
B) Reverse hypers: platex12, 2 platesx12, 2x12x4plates

Calf raises standing on 25 lb plates: 1x15x25lb dumbells, 1x15x40lbs, 2x15x65lbs.

I can honestly say that I didn't lose focus or intensity at all during this workout. Also, from 1 set of glute-ham raises (during the warmup), my hamstrings were incredibly pumped with blood. That definetely hasn't happened before starting these supplements. Also, I am expecting to be severely sore in my quads, hips, lumbar region, and moderately sore in my calves, abs, and hamstrings. Let's see how that pans out over the next two days and if Thunder can help the muscles repair in time for squatting again on sunday.

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Posted: May 15 2005, 12:12 AM
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Day 5, 200 lbs:

Roman chair situps: 4x20
Worked up to 255x3 on a 3-board
Worked up to 275x1 on a 4-board
Tricep bar: 135x5, 165x5, 2x5x185
chest supported row: 4x10, used 2 plates and 2 plates+quarter
a) wrist curls
cool.gif EZ curls

On the rows I noticed some crazy blood flow in my lats and rear delts that isn't usually there. This must be the Thunder.

Friday night I proceeded to get completely obliterated at the 1st party of the summer. Most of my friends just came home from college, so I took the liberty of getting shitfaced and having a great time.

Day 5 might as well have not existed. I dont think I even left the house or broke 2000 calories (had been taking in 4000/day)... but, such is the price you pay for a crazy night. Will not drink again till mid-june. Looking forward to squatting tomorrow, hopefully Jolt will give my alcoholic ass the boost it needs to feel like training in the AM.

Subjective notes: Despite feeling like utter shit this saturday, my upper body is feeling more muscular, full, and powerful. Legs are SORE AS HELL from thursday, I can barely walk. DOMS is the devil.

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Posted: May 15 2005, 02:36 PM
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Day 7: SQ/DL

warmups: lots of stretching, lots of bodyweight squats sets & sets w/ just the bar; was still pretty damned sore all over my posterior chain and quads.

Box Squats: 95x2, 135x2, (briefs) 185x2, 225x2, (belt) 275x2
Dynamic box squats: 10x2x330
Zercher squats off pin #3: barx3, 135x3, 225x3, 315x3, 365x3, 405x3 (PR), 455x1 (PR)
Power shrugs, dbl overhand w/ straps: 225x10, 315x10, 365x10, 405x10, 365x15
some rear delt work, one set of abs (ill do abs tomorrow, SI joint was a little fucked)
2 sets of some calf raise thing

Didn't remember to weigh myself in the morning, but at the end of the workout I was 204. I am a little fatter since friday night's debauchery, but 204 was completely unexpected progress.

Subjective notes: My legs are definetely bigger since thursday. I'm thinking this is a combination of muscle memory reconstucting muscle I used to have, and the Thunder volumizing my legs. I really, really felt strong today on the squats and on the zerchers. Sometimes you just have a good workout, so I won't read more into that until the trend continues.

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Posted: May 15 2005, 03:23 PM
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Repub,
On your last squat day you said you worked up to 275 x 2 on the box squat, and then you said you did dynamic box squats with 330. I am just a little confused...was the going up to 275 a warmup for you? or were they work sets, because I thought dynamic sets were supposed to be lighter. The only difference between dynamic box squats and "normal (i guess)" box squats are the speed and weight. Also, 455 for zercher! crazy man, must rip your arms off doin that. Good log.
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Posted: May 15 2005, 03:58 PM
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Well, first off, I get lazy with numbers most of the time. A real squat bar weighs somewhere between 55 and 60 lbs. I think we use a 60 lb squat bar. But, when there is 2 plates and a quarter on a 60 lb squat bar, it is usually still called "275" even though it's 290. So I did 290x2, working up in weight (these were warmups), then did 3 plates (which was 330) for dynamic sets. The bar moves fast at this weight... that is the main marker of whether you have the right weight or not.

And yeah, the zerchers are rough on the arms... I was actually strong enough to do 455 for 3, but on my way up with the 2nd rep it rolled out of my arms. I immediately re-set and went at it again, and it rolled out of my arms again. Oh well.

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Posted: May 16 2005, 11:20 AM
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For those of you who don't know, the football bar is a barbell that weighs 80? pounds and has a neutral grip


I wish my gym had one of those sad.gif

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Posted: May 17 2005, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE (ShakesAllDay @ May 16 2005, 11:20 AM)
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For those of you who don't know, the football bar is a barbell that weighs 80? pounds and has a neutral grip


I wish my gym had one of those sad.gif

yeah they're pretty cool.

Day 8: Off. Weight: 201

dragged the sled for a little bit.

Subjective notes: I was lethargic all day. took Jolt before the sled dragging, and the lethargy went away.


Question for Matt: Am I supposed to be using Thunder on off-days? and if so, when during the day?

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Posted: May 17 2005, 06:49 PM
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Day 9, 201 lbs. rep bench:

warmups: 3 sets of light seated rows, light raises, some cuff warmup
Fat bar bench: 2x6xbar, 1x10x95, 1x10x135, 3x10x185 (last set I failed on 9th rep), 1x12x135 (failed)
4-board press, close grip: 135x5, 185x5, 2x5x225 (failed on 5th rep of last set)
Lat pulldown: 3x10 supinated grip, up to "140", 1x10 pronated @ "140"
4 sets of light ab work

Subjective Notes: My bench has always sucked, and the most I ever benched 185 for was 10 reps. To do 185 for 10 for almost three sets with a fat bar was pretty damn good. My board presses still suck though.

I received an enormous pump throught my chest, delts, and triceps (even some in my biceps) from the fat bar pressing and board pressing. While doing bodyweight ab work, I got off the floor after a set and one of my training partners said "yo.... you look a lot bigger". I informed him that my upper body was completely engorged with blood due to "that product I'm testing", and that it felt pretty cool. So I'm going to definetely say that Thunder, 8 days in, has given me massive pumps during workouts. That claim of the product is already settled in my mind. Not enough evidence for increased strength yet, but I've got 22 days left, and it's looking good.

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Posted: May 19 2005, 09:09 PM
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day 11: deadlift and lower body assistance. 202 lbs

warmups: facepulls, roman chair situps, bodyweight reverse hypers, 2 sets GHR
Deadlift, alternating sumo/conventional: barx4, 135x2, 225x2, 275x2
275+1chainx2 (added belt)
275+2chainx4
275+3chainx2
275+4chainx2
275+5chainx4
325+5chainx2 (This was about 415 at the bottom and 535 at the top)

facepulls: 3x15
cambered bar good morning (light): barx5, 135x5, 3x5x225
a) bicep curls: 3x8x40s
cool.gif weighted GHR situps: 4x10

Subjective Notes: -I usually pull sumo in powerlifting gear, but with just a belt I was massively stronger conventional. The last weight still was pretty damned easy conventional, while sumo felt around 90% effort. I really didn't think my pull was that strong though...

-Im getting fatter since yesterday (and the day before, to a lesser extent) I had no semblance of a reasonable diet; I ate fried chicken and a giant sundae yet was still 500 calories under what I was supposed to eat. The scale and my strength keep going up though, so I'm happy... could be the Thunder?

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Posted: May 22 2005, 04:11 PM
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day 12: Bench; weight: 203

Bench: 2x8xbar, 95x5, 135x5, 185x3, 1x1x210, 1x1x235, 1x1x225.
incline bench: 5x10x135, 1x12x135
DB bench: 3 sets with 30s; did 20 reps, 25 reps, then 30 reps.
pronated pullups: bwx5, 1chainx5, 2x2chainx5, 1chainx5, bwx5
rotator cuff stuff.

Subjective notes: took jolt and thunder when I got to the gym.

i was going to test my bench, but 235 was complete garbage. It was slow as hell and pressed completely with my pecs. went down to 225 to do some volume, and that sucked too. pissed off, i went to incline, did 3 sets of 10 and almost failed on the 10th rep of that set.

Normally in the morning my mind is in a cloud, until it gradually or suddenly awakens, usually in about an hour. i only got 4 hours of sleep the night before, and I did not "wake up" until between my 3rd and 4th set of incline. Perhaps this is what I get for not taking jolt and thunder when i'm supposed to (BEFORE the workout, not at the gym). Anyway, the remaining incline sets were incredibly easy, and I chalk my crappy 235 lift up to not being mentally in it. I will use jolt/thunder a good amount of time pre-workout from now on.

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Posted: May 22 2005, 04:20 PM
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Day 13: SQ/DL, weight 204

box squat: barx5, bar+green (average) bandsx3, 95+greenx2, 135+greenx2. put briefs and belt on:
1x2x185+green
6x2x225+green
5x2x275+green

chain suspended cambered bar good morning: barx3, 135x3, 225x3, 315x3, 365x3, 405xmiss

pullthroughs: 6x12 (used the entire weight stack on the last set)
sledgehammer wrist work
weighted decline situps: 2x10x60lbs, 1x12x70lbs

BB shrugs: 135x10, 225x10, (straps) 315x10, 365x10, 405x7? (fail), 315x20

Subjective notes: took my Jolt and Thunder BEFORE the workout this time. I was awake for this workout. I felt pretty strong today, and weight keeps going up. This is going really well. Will be using green bands for the next two weeks.

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Posted: May 23 2005, 09:20 PM
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Day 14: Bench. weight: 204.

took jolt, thunder, and 25mg ephedrine half an hour before the workout.


Bench: 2x10xbar, 2x10x95, 1x10xbar+chain, 1x10xbar+2chain,
Speed bench: 8x3x135+2chain; 5 sets pointer on smooth, 3 sets medium grip
Bench (pointer on smooth): 1x25x135 (PR). The most I have ever benched 135 close grip was 20 reps... I could have done more than 25 here actually, probably 27-28.

Farmers walk, 50 foot trips: 1x55lbs per arm, 3x105, 2x125, 2x145
1-arm DB rows: 1x12x50lbs, 3x12x65lbs
a) tricep rolly-fat bar pushdown: 4x10
cool.gif bicep "15s" (same as 21s, just 5 reps), forgot how much weight

front neck work: 3x12x10 pound plate on head

Subjective Notes: I benched saturday, did an intense workout yesterday, and benched again today. This was a necessity of flawed scheduling, and a mindset that said three rough workouts in a row is better than skipping one. Anyway, after my crap performance on bench on friday, I was surprised at my strength and energy today. The speed bench was really fast, and I set a rep record with 135. Pumps werent as good today as usual (but they were still pretty damned good), and I attribute this to the 25mg ephedrine, which is a vasoconstrictor.

Farmers walk was something new just for fun, it was pretty good. on DB rows, I could have gone heavier, but my upper back and lats were already fried from the previous two workouts, so I kept it lighter purposely. This was also surprising, as 65 lbs normally feels heavy when my lats/back are not sore at all.

After taking Jolt and Thunder *before* the workout for the past two days, i'm convinced that friday sucked almost entirely because I took them too late into the workout to counteract sleep deprivation (which Jolt/Thunder had done a good job of doing the past two weeks in other workouts).

Strength is going up, my core (while fatter) is solidifying, and my upper body is growing very well.

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Posted: May 25 2005, 07:34 PM
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day 16: deadlift and assistance; weight: 205

warmups: 3x12 inner hip machine, 1 set GHR, hanging leg raises, facepulls
deadlift standing on 100 lb plates: 135x2, 225x2, 275x4, 315x2
1" below parallel cambered box squat: barx5, 135x10, 185x10, 225x10, 295x10, 160x25
Incline GHR: 3x8 (failed at 7 and 8 on last two sets, respectively), 1x10 non-incline
BW calf raise pyramid thing, high foot placement: went up to 6 and down.
GHR situps: 2x10
crunch thinie: 2x20, 2nd set with 10 lbs
chest supported row, 45 degree grip: 135x10, 2x10x225

Subjective notes: deadlifts felt crappy, probably because I was standing on 100 lb plates, not using briefs, and not using a belt. Squats were pretty damned good... quads and back are really getting powerful and solid. abs are growing very quickly and reducing the appearance of the fat I gained. No problems at all with feeling awake/alive this workout.

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Posted: May 26 2005, 05:28 PM
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day 17: off/swim, weight 206

In my typical fashion, I had left myself exactly two days to prepare for a 200 yard timed swim for a lifeguarding re-certification test this saturday. I swam tuesday and today, the first two times in about nine months. Tuesday I forgot to take jolt/thunder beforehand, and I was basically wiped out after swimming just 50 meters. I think I did 3 "sets" of 50 meters freestyle, felt pretty damned nauseous, and my quads and delts were on fire.

Todays swim: 50 meters, 50 meters, 100 meters, 50, 50, 100, 50 backstroke.

Its not really possible to tell whether it was the training effect from swimming tuesday or the fact that I took jolt/thunder before this swim, but man, I more than doubled my work capacity. Massive pump in my quads, they were huge and hard as rocks when I got out of the pool (this did not happen tuesday) but they never filled with lactic acid or tired. Delts were the limiting factor today, but they definetely did a lot better than on tuesday. I was faster than on tuesday also.

I sure as hell am going to remember to take thunder/jolt before the test on saturday, I can't be sure but its very likely that it helped out a lot.

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Posted: May 27 2005, 07:07 PM
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day 18: bench; weight: 206

pullups: 9 sets of 5, 3 grips (neutral, pronated, supinated)
decline situps (holding DBs): 1x8x25, 8x45, 8x65, 3x8x75, 1x10x60
stability ball DB press: 1x12x25s, 1x12x40s, 1x12x50s, 1x12x60s, 1x12x70s, 1x20x50s
4-board press: up to 245x5 and 275x3
a) sledgehammer wrist work: 4x20
b) BB bicep curls: 4x10x75lbs

subjective notes: I could only do 1 rep on the 4-board with 275 last week (when I took jolt/thunder too late into the workout), this week I did 3. That's a pretty huge difference.

I was pretty pumped today, and I'm noticing that I'm getting incredible vascularity in my forearms (but not yet in my biceps or delts). This shouldnt even be happening, considering that I am bulking and putting on fat.

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day 19: weight 208

Took Thunder and Jolt before I went to take the Swim test, but I couldn't take it today, will be next week sometime. I did some sled/cardio stuff instead along with some rugby kicking practice... despite gaining 13 lbs since the last time I ran, I had absolutely no cardiovascular problems with sprints/sled/ two half-mile jogs. my shins calves and knees werent bad either, only minor shin pains (which always happen).

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